Handcycling / Rollers

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Darren" <news> says...

Quoted message said:

Hi

I am interested in getting some training rollers for my bike (TACX Ecotrack
?)

Thing is, I use a three wheeled recumbant style hand cycle. Excellerator XLT
PRO (similar to http://www.invacare.com/product_files/XLTPRO_400_B..jpg )

The front wheel is the driven wheel (27 gears)

As can be seen from the linked photo, Imy legs go either side of the front
wheel, therefore a trainer wouldn't fit, hence the rollers.

Because I sit further back, not so much weight would go on the front wheel,
so not sure if it would be able to drive the rollers, or if it would just
slip.

Any thoughts / suggestions / experiences?

You may well have problems keeping the wheel straight on the rollers
because pedalling effort will tend to move the bars - you need to be
very smooth on free rollers. I think you'd be better off starting with
a turbo trainer and modifying it to attach to the leg rests or fork
blades, or just attach the resistance unit from a turbo or mag trainer
to the fork and support the cycle some other way.

"Darren" <news> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi

I am interested in getting some training rollers for my bike (TACX
Ecotrack ?)

Thing is, I use a three wheeled recumbant style hand cycle. Excellerator
XLT PRO (similar to
http://www.invacare.com/product_files/XLTPRO_400_B..jpg )

The front wheel is the driven wheel (27 gears)

As can be seen from the linked photo, Imy legs go either side of the front
wheel, therefore a trainer wouldn't fit, hence the rollers.

Because I sit further back, not so much weight would go on the front
wheel, so not sure if it would be able to drive the rollers, or if it
would just slip.

Any thoughts / suggestions / experiences?

TIA

Darren

From a friend of mine who uses a handcycle:-

"Hey Waffles

I can't post on rec.cycling, and I'm too lazy to register, so you could post
this up for me.

I use a Tacx turbo with my Quickie Shark. The support arms of the turbo go
through the leg supports, so you have to put your legs on the ground - not
ideal but workable.

I guess you could try rollers but you may have to bolt them down and
immobilise the rear wheels somehow."

Hope this is of some use.

Thanks Rob

Can you suggest an 'entry level' trainer that may be suitable.

Sorry, but I'm a complete nopvice to this field

Darren

"Rob Morley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Darren" <news> says...

Quoted message said:

Hi

I am interested in getting some training rollers for my bike (TACX
Ecotrack
?)

Thing is, I use a three wheeled recumbant style hand cycle. Excellerator
XLT
PRO (similar to
http://www.invacare.com/product_files/XLTPRO_400_B..jpg )

The front wheel is the driven wheel (27 gears)

As can be seen from the linked photo, Imy legs go either side of the
front
wheel, therefore a trainer wouldn't fit, hence the rollers.

Because I sit further back, not so much weight would go on the front
wheel,
so not sure if it would be able to drive the rollers, or if it would just
slip.

Any thoughts / suggestions / experiences?

You may well have problems keeping the wheel straight on the rollers
because pedalling effort will tend to move the bars - you need to be
very smooth on free rollers. I think you'd be better off starting with
a turbo trainer and modifying it to attach to the leg rests or fork
blades, or just attach the resistance unit from a turbo or mag trainer
to the fork and support the cycle some other way.

Thanks Waffles

Could you please pass on my thanks to your friend.

I had thought about immobilising the back wheels - 2 bricks :-)
But I will investigate the Tacx turbo.

Any other suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Does the turbo attach to the axle of the front wheel?

Darren

"wafflycat" <w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Darren" <news> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi

I am interested in getting some training rollers for my bike (TACX
Ecotrack ?)

Thing is, I use a three wheeled recumbant style hand cycle. Excellerator
XLT PRO (similar to
http://www.invacare.com/product_files/XLTPRO_400_B..jpg )

The front wheel is the driven wheel (27 gears)

As can be seen from the linked photo, Imy legs go either side of the
front wheel, therefore a trainer wouldn't fit, hence the rollers.

Because I sit further back, not so much weight would go on the front
wheel, so not sure if it would be able to drive the rollers, or if it
would just slip.

Any thoughts / suggestions / experiences?

TIA

Darren

From a friend of mine who uses a handcycle:-

"Hey Waffles

I can't post on rec.cycling, and I'm too lazy to register, so you could
post this up for me.

I use a Tacx turbo with my Quickie Shark. The support arms of the turbo go
through the leg supports, so you have to put your legs on the ground - not
ideal but workable.

I guess you could try rollers but you may have to bolt them down and
immobilise the rear wheels somehow."

Hope this is of some use.

Darren writtificated

Quoted message said:

Any other suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Does the turbo attach to the axle of the front wheel?

Most (all?) turbos are designed to attach using the quick release through
the rear wheel. Front quick releases aren't as wide so might be worth
checking that the things on the turbo wot hold the ends of the quick
release'll go that narrow.

Mark T said:

Darren writtificated

Quoted message said:

Any other suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Does the turbo attach to the axle of the front wheel?

Most (all?) turbos are designed to attach using the quick release through
the rear wheel. Front quick releases aren't as wide so might be worth
checking that the things on the turbo wot hold the ends of the quick
release'll go that narrow.

I am really guessing here, but the wheel on the pictured bike has
derailuer gears, so could be a "standard" rear wheel, with an OLD
suitable for a Roller. The OP would have to measure the OLD to be
certain though.

Hi

It looks like a standard 'rear' wheel, with derailuer gearss

BTW what is OLD ?

Darren

"Martin Dann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Mark T said:

Darren writtificated

Quoted message said:

Any other suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Does the turbo attach to the axle of the front wheel?

Most (all?) turbos are designed to attach using the quick release through
the rear wheel. Front quick releases aren't as wide so might be worth
checking that the things on the turbo wot hold the ends of the quick
release'll go that narrow.

I am really guessing here, but the wheel on the pictured bike has
derailuer gears, so could be a "standard" rear wheel, with an OLD suitable
for a Roller. The OP would have to measure the OLD to be certain though.

"Darren" <news> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Thanks Waffles

Could you please pass on my thanks to your friend.

Done.

Quoted message said:

I had thought about immobilising the back wheels - 2 bricks :-)
But I will investigate the Tacx turbo.

Any other suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Does the turbo attach to the axle of the front wheel?

Darren

"wafflycat" <w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Darren" <news> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi

I am interested in getting some training rollers for my bike (TACX
Ecotrack ?)

Thing is, I use a three wheeled recumbant style hand cycle. Excellerator
XLT PRO (similar to
http://www.invacare.com/product_files/XLTPRO_400_B..jpg )

The front wheel is the driven wheel (27 gears)

As can be seen from the linked photo, Imy legs go either side of the
front wheel, therefore a trainer wouldn't fit, hence the rollers.

Because I sit further back, not so much weight would go on the front
wheel, so not sure if it would be able to drive the rollers, or if it
would just slip.

Any thoughts / suggestions / experiences?

TIA

Darren

From a friend of mine who uses a handcycle:-

"Hey Waffles

I can't post on rec.cycling, and I'm too lazy to register, so you could
post this up for me.

I use a Tacx turbo with my Quickie Shark. The support arms of the turbo
go through the leg supports, so you have to put your legs on the ground -
not ideal but workable.

I guess you could try rollers but you may have to bolt them down and
immobilise the rear wheels somehow."

Hope this is of some use.

Darren writtificated

Quoted message said:

It looks like a standard 'rear' wheel, with derailuer gearss

BTW what is OLD ?

Over Locknut Dimension

<www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_n-o.html#old>

Darren' news said:

Thanks Waffles

Could you please pass on my thanks to your friend.

I had thought about immobilising the back wheels - 2 bricks :-)
But I will investigate the Tacx turbo.

Any other suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Velovision runs features on handcycles from time to time so Peter
Eland (or a reader) might have some experience or know some more
handcyclists to put the question to

http://www.velovision.co.uk/

best wishes
james

"Darren" <news> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Thanks Waffles

Could you please pass on my thanks to your friend.

I had thought about immobilising the back wheels - 2 bricks :-)
But I will investigate the Tacx turbo.

Any other suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Does the turbo attach to the axle of the front wheel?

Darren

Further response:-

"My pleasure.

The turbo attaches to the front wheel Q/R skewer. Tacx supply one that fits
into the support arms."

"Darren" <news> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi

I am interested in getting some training rollers for my bike (TACX
Ecotrack
?)

Thing is, I use a three wheeled recumbant style hand cycle. Excellerator
XLT
PRO (similar to http://www.invacare.com/product_files/XLTPRO_400_B..jpg )

The front wheel is the driven wheel (27 gears)

As can be seen from the linked photo, Imy legs go either side of the front
wheel, therefore a trainer wouldn't fit, hence the rollers.

Because I sit further back, not so much weight would go on the front
wheel,
so not sure if it would be able to drive the rollers, or if it would just
slip.

Any thoughts / suggestions / experiences?

TIA

Darren

I have a Top End XLT Gold and use a Minarau Turbo Trainer when I can with
it. I am a double above knee amputee so I don't have to worry about the leg
holders being in the way but you can always take them off or fold them down
to fit.

I have a Word.doc copy of an article on Trainers that was publish in Chain
Drive back in 2004. This is the newsletter for the UK Handcycling
Association http://www.handcyclinguk.org.uk/.

If you would like a copy of the .doc then let me know (just remove the
nospam) and I can e-mail it on to you.

--
OJ
http://www.oliverjones.eclipse.co.uk/

Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
Elbert Hubbard (1856 - 1915)

Thanks Guy

I have been able to download and decode the word doc from your postings.

Very much appreciated.

Darren

"Guy Ballantine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Darren" <news> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi

I am interested in getting some training rollers for my bike (TACX
Ecotrack
?)

Thing is, I use a three wheeled recumbant style hand cycle. Excellerator
XLT
PRO (similar to
http://www.invacare.com/product_files/XLTPRO_400_B..jpg )

The front wheel is the driven wheel (27 gears)

As can be seen from the linked photo, Imy legs go either side of the
front
wheel, therefore a trainer wouldn't fit, hence the rollers.

Because I sit further back, not so much weight would go on the front
wheel,
so not sure if it would be able to drive the rollers, or if it would just
slip.

Any thoughts / suggestions / experiences?

TIA

Darren

I have a Top End XLT Gold and use a Minarau Turbo Trainer when I can with
it. I am a double above knee amputee so I don't have to worry about the
leg
holders being in the way but you can always take them off or fold them
down
to fit.

I have a Word.doc copy of an article on Trainers that was publish in Chain
Drive back in 2004. This is the newsletter for the UK Handcycling
Association http://www.handcyclinguk.org.uk/.

If you would like a copy of the .doc then let me know (just remove the
nospam) and I can e-mail it on to you.

--
OJ
http://www.oliverjones.eclipse.co.uk/

Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
Elbert Hubbard (1856 - 1915)