lightest clinchers?

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From: oroboy [email hidden]
Date: 12/13/03 6:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

American Classic. They're pricey though. Check out the website, www. amclassic.com

Josh Zlotlow [email hidden] Sacramento, California Sacramento Golden Wheelmen www.sacgw.com

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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

The lightest clincher what? Rims? Wheels? Tires?

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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

The lightest clincher what? Rims? Wheels? Tires? [/B]

rims and wheels, complete set. I've been looking at Topolino. they are a new company using carban and Kevlar. A pair of wheels weigh 1390 grams.

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rims and wheels, complete set. I've been looking at Topolino. they are a new company using carban and Kevlar. A pair of wheels weigh 1390 grams.

Forgot to tell you, you can see them at www.topolinotech.com/index.html

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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

If you're talking tires, it's probably be the Tufo tubular clincher. The tire is certainly not the
lightest at ~260 gms but it doesn't take a tube. It is essentially a tubular with a ridge around
either side to fit on the hook bead of the rim.

I have been longing to try them but at ~$70 per, I don't think so.

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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

If you're talking tires, it's probably be the Tufo tubular clincher. The tire is certainly not the
lightest at ~260 gms but it doesn't take a tube. It is essentially a tubular with a ridge around
either side to fit on the hook bead of the rim.

I doubt it. Vittoria makes a (claimed) 130 gram clincher, and tubes can be found well under 100
grams, to say nothing of 130 grams.

-Owen

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Originally posted by Joshua Zlotlow
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From: oroboy [email hidden]
Date: 12/13/03 6:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

American Classic. They're pricey though. Check out the website, www. amclassic.com

Josh Zlotlow [email hidden] Sacramento, California Sacramento Golden Wheelmen www.sacgw.com

Thanks Josh
those look nice and they are lighter than the Topolinos I was looking at. Do you know if they are a strong wheel? And do they hold up well?
thanx for the help
jeff

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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

If you're talking tires, it's probably be the Tufo tubular clincher. The tire is certainly not the
lightest at ~260 gms but it doesn't take a tube.

If it's weight weenyism we're after, try Veloflex Record (130g) with a Continental latex tube (70g).
But expect a fair few flats unless your road is guaranteed super clean.

I use Veloflex Master (170g) instead, as a kind of insurance.

/Robert

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Tim McNamara said:

oroboy said:

what are the lightest clinchers out there?

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The lightest clincher what? Rims? Wheels? Tires?

rims and wheels, complete set. I've been looking at Topolino. they are a new company using carban
and Kevlar. A pair of wheels weigh 1390 grams.

Well, if you really want the absolutey lightest clincher wheels then you'll need to shop around. LEW
wheels, American Classic, Mavic, Bontrager, etc. all make light wheels. Seems like mostly nonsense
to me, but it's your bike, your money and your ride. Ride whatcha like!

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Tim McNamara said:

oroboy said:

what are the lightest clinchers out there?

The lightest clincher what? Rims? Wheels? Tires?

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rims and wheels, complete set. I've been looking at Topolino. they are a new company using carban
and Kevlar. A pair of wheels weigh 1390 grams.

1390 grams can't be particularly low, as you can beat that by just buying some standard low-profile
aluminium rims, light hubs (Tune, etc.) and thin spokes. Although I don't know the price of the
wheels you mentioned, having a pair built from standard parts would likely be cheaper and certanily
more easily serviced.

-as

Veloflex Record clincher: 120 grams.

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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

If you're talking tires, it's probably be the Tufo tubular clincher. The tire is certainly not
the lightest at ~260 gms but it doesn't take a tube. It is essentially a tubular with a ridge
around either side to fit on the hook bead of the rim.

I doubt it. Vittoria makes a (claimed) 130 gram clincher, and tubes can be found well under 100
grams, to say nothing of 130 grams.

-Owen

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American Classic. They're pricey though. Check out the website, www. amclassic.com

Thanks Josh those look nice and they are lighter than the Topolinos I was looking at. Do you know
if they are a strong wheel? And do they hold up well? thanx for the help jeff

I have a set of the 350s. At roughly $500 they're cheaper than most top of the line wheels.

They have held up fine for me, but I'm only 150 lbs.

Unlike the topolinos, the AmClassic cr350s can be fixed by anyone if a spoke breaks since they use
normal spokes.

American Classic's recently announced a 300g magnesium rim.

Eric

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Date: 12/14/03 1:46 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Subject: lightest clinchers? From: oroboy usenet- [email hidden] Date: 12/13/03 6:42
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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

American Classic. They're pricey though. Check out the website, www. amclassic.com Josh Zlotlow
[email hidden] Sacramento, California Sacramento Golden Wheelmen www.sacgw.com

Thanks Josh those look nice and they are lighter than the Topolinos I was looking at. Do you know
if they are a strong wheel? And do they hold up well? thanx for the help jeff

As far as the Magnesiums (supposedly 1207 grams per set), I have no idea, since I don't believe they
are in production yet.

The 350s got a good review on Cyclingnews.com. I only know one person who has a pair. I believe he's
pretty happy with them, but then again he's about 6" tall and maybe 135 pounds, so I don't think he
tests their durability very well. Josh Zlotlow [email hidden] Sacramento, California Sacramento
Golden Wheelmen www.sacgw.com

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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

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If you're talking tires, it's probably be the Tufo tubular clincher. The tire is certainly not the
lightest at ~260 gms but it doesn't take a tube. It is essentially a tubular with a ridge around
either side to fit on the hook bead of the rim.

I have been longing to try them but at ~$70 per, I don't think so.

A 210 gram tire plus a 65g tube is not unusual for regular clinchers nowadays, I guess I'm saying
that at 260g for $80 that model isn't all that light. (This series starts at $38 which is moderate
pricing now for a tire/tube replacement.)

If you are a weight obsessed rider there's a 225gram model at $104.

I haven't used the Tufo C Elite Jet TEW at 225 grams but it does seem like there's just not very
much material. . .

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oroboy said:

what are the lightest clinchers out there?

The lightest clincher what? Rims? Wheels? Tires?

Anyone thought about Velomax? I don't know weights...

Mike

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what are the lightest clinchers out there?

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If you're talking tires, it's probably be the Tufo tubular clincher. The tire is certainly not
the lightest at ~260 gms but it doesn't take a tube. It is essentially a tubular with a ridge
around either side to fit on the hook bead of the rim.

I have been longing to try them but at ~$70 per, I don't think so.

A 210 gram tire plus a 65g tube is not unusual for regular clinchers nowadays, I guess I'm saying
that at 260g for $80 that model isn't all that light. (This series starts at $38 which is moderate
pricing now for a tire/tube replacement.)

If you are a weight obsessed rider there's a 225gram model at $104.

I haven't used the Tufo C Elite Jet TEW at 225 grams but it does seem like there's just not very
much material. . .

I don't know what quality control is like these days, but in the past, tires of the same type
usually varied by an ounce or two. And you know that when quoting weights, they'll go through a
batch to find the lightest ones. So if you go through a bin of those 225g tires, you'll probably
find some that are that light, most are a bit heavier, and some are much (if you can call it
that) heavier.

As if it matters anyway...

Matt O.

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If you're talking tires, it's probably be the Tufo tubular clincher. The tire is certainly not
the lightest at ~260 gms but it doesn't take a tube. It is essentially a

I doubt it. Vittoria makes a (claimed) 130 gram clincher, and tubes can be found well under 100
grams, to say nothing of 130 grams.

My Bontrager Superlight 700c X 18c-25c seem dependable in 23c tires and purportedly weigh 65 grams
(according to the package).

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-Owen

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Joshua Zlotlow wrote:

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American Classic. They're pricey though. Check out the website, www. amclassic.com

Thanks Josh those look nice and they are lighter than the Topolinos I was looking at. Do you know
if they are a strong wheel? And do they hold up well? thanx for the help jeff

I have a set of the 350s. At roughly $500 they're cheaper than most top of the line wheels.

They have held up fine for me, but I'm only 150 lbs.

Unlike the topolinos, the AmClassic cr350s can be fixed by anyone if a spoke breaks since they use
normal spokes.

American Classic's recently announced a 300g magnesium rim.

I'll sell you my Rolf Sestriere Ti wheels -- I don't remember the exact weight, but I think they're
1400-something. They're almost new -- just a few hundred miles. They have Hugi-type hubs and normal
DT spokes, so they can be serviced by anyone who knows what they're doing.

Matt O.

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I don't know what quality control is like these days, but in the past, tires of the same type
usually varied by an ounce or two. And you know that when quoting weights, they'll go through a
batch to find the lightest ones. So if you go through a bin of those 225g tires, you'll probably
find some that are that light, most are a bit heavier, and some are much (if you can call it
that) heavier.

As if it matters anyway...

Matt O.

I actually weighed a small sample of Tufo tubulars ( five ) that are supposed to 195 grams and they
were all within ten grams of the stated weight. YMMV. .