Result!

Simonb said:

Took bike into Hargroves in Southampton for a freehub body replacement, whereupon the mechanic
discovered a crack in the forks. Not only is the work on the forks under warranty, but Specialized
have replaced the forks with carbon ones!

Everyone seems to have carbon forks these days. A colleague in the CTC told me I should really get
carbon forks for my racing bike...but I think he was actually after a cheap deal on the nice 531
forks it has at the moment.

I'd rather have forks that matched the frame, and as someone who doesn't even ride with gloves in
summer, road buzz isn't a major concern ;-)

Zog The Undeniable said:

Everyone seems to have carbon forks these days. A colleague in the CTC told me I should really get
carbon forks for my racing bike...but I think he was actually after a cheap deal on the nice 531
forks it has at the moment.

I'd rather have forks that matched the frame, and as someone who doesn't even ride with gloves in
summer, road buzz isn't a major concern ;-)

Oh. I doubt these forks will match the frame as Specialized don't have any bikes in this colour this
year. Probably why they're giving me carbon. I'm not complaining.

-- Simonb

Zog The Undeniable said:

Simonb said:

Took bike into Hargroves in Southampton for a freehub body replacement, whereupon the mechanic
discovered a crack in the forks. Not only is the work on the forks under warranty, but
Specialized have replaced the forks with carbon ones!

Everyone seems to have carbon forks these days. A colleague in the CTC told me I should really get
carbon forks for my racing bike...but I think he was actually after a cheap deal on the nice 531
forks it has at the moment.

I'd rather have forks that matched the frame, and as someone who doesn't even ride with gloves in
summer, road buzz isn't a major concern ;-)

Not that long ago, forks were *always* considered an integral part of a frame purchase. but today
they are often an extra. Having ridden both carbon and steel forks i have found very little
difference.

Could it mainly a marketing ploy to get you to shell out more dosh?

John B

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carbon ones!

Everyone seems to have carbon forks these days. A colleague in the CTC told me I should really
get carbon forks for my racing bike...but I think he was actually after a cheap deal on the nice
531 forks it has at the moment.

I'd rather have forks that matched the frame, and as someone who doesn't even ride with gloves
in summer, road buzz isn't a major concern ;-)

Not that long ago, forks were *always* considered an integral part of a

frame

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purchase. but today they are often an extra. Having ridden both carbon and steel forks i have
found very little

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Could it mainly a marketing ploy to get you to shell out more dosh?

I'm always sceptical about the ability of marketers to get customers to shell out more cash than
they would otherwise. I don't think most people are that gullible. They have enough demands on their
money that they won't pay out good money for something that doesn't bring any benefit. The main
benefit of carbon forks is lower weight.
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Michael MacClancy said:

I'm always sceptical about the ability of marketers to get customers to shell out more cash than
they would otherwise. I don't think most people are that gullible. They have enough demands on
their money that they won't pay out good money for something that doesn't bring any benefit. The
main benefit of carbon forks is lower weight.
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And that's the power of marketing. They got you, and you don't know it.

The marginal weight difference that carbon forks might provide means bugger all in practical terms
to most peoples bikes. That ain't a benefit, it's what the advertising mob want you to perceive as a
benefit. Mission accomplished.
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I'm always sceptical about the ability of marketers to get customers to shell out more cash than
they would otherwise. I don't think most people are that gullible. They have enough demands on
their money that they won't pay out good money for something that doesn't bring any benefit. The
main benefit of carbon forks is lower weight.

Hmm, do £50000 cars get you there faster or any more comfortably than £15000 ones?

Call me Bob said:

The marginal weight difference that carbon forks might provide means bugger all in practical terms
to most peoples bikes. That ain't a benefit, it's what the advertising mob want you to perceive as
a benefit. Mission accomplished.

But surely it's about cumulative weight? In which case, any weight saving is significant. Otherwise,
why not ride around on over-sized, reinforced steel bikes as they'd prove much stronger.

-- Simonb

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Hmm, do £50000 cars get you there faster or any more comfortably than £15000 ones?

A £50,000 car driven at 50 miles per hour will get you there faster than the £15,000 car driven at
20 miles per hour. The multi zone air conditioning in the more expensive car will also enhance
comfort levels and offer a less stressful drive - been there and done it!

Vernon in Leeds, fully capable of making a lightweight trick framed high specced bike go faster than
his £25 second hand Raleigh Equipe but unwilling to pay for the enhanced performance

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ones?

Not always. But if you're into that kind of thing you'll probably justify the difference in price.
(Leather seats, GPS, aircon, sports suspension, alloy wheels, better acceleration etc.) Another of
the main benefits of driving a £50,000 car is showing people you can afford one - if you're into
that kind of thing ;-).
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JohnB said:

Not that long ago, forks were *always* considered an integral part of a frame purchase. but today
they are often an extra. Having ridden both carbon and steel forks i have found very little
difference.

Wouldn't they be a bit stiffer than steel forks, so worse on the potholes? My aluminium hybrid is
quite inflexible, apart from its forks which are steel and have the normal bend.

- Richard

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Ambrose Nankivell said:

Hmm, do £50000 cars get you there faster or any more comfortably than £15000 ones?

Me, I wait until the £50,000 car has depreciated to £15,000 (about six weeks) and get the best of
both worlds ;-)

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Just zis Guy said:

Me, I wait until the £50,000 car has depreciated to £15,000 (about six weeks) and get the best of
both worlds ;-)

No, that Volvo was never worth £50k. £50k gives you leather, not acres of plastic ;-)

Tony

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Me, I wait until the £50,000 car has depreciated to £15,000 (about six weeks) and get the best of
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No, that Volvo was never worth £50k. £50k gives you leather, not acres of plastic ;-)

Ah, true enough. My last company car was a measly thirty grands' worth. Of Volvo estate, of course.
With leather. And cruise. And climate control. And a computery thing. And CD whatnot. And stuff.

I bought the current one second hand for 6k5 about six years ago. It started out at a Several of
thousands, but I don't know how many at todays rates.

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