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  1. With much laughter I post this from CyclingNews:
    Fuentes guessed at how his medical practices would be thought of in
    the future, postulating, "Perhaps in 20 years they will give me the
    Nobel Prize; maybe they will build me a memorial. Or they will kill
    me."

    ABS

  2. Quoted message said:

    With much laughter I post this from CyclingNews:
     Fuentes guessed at how his medical practices would be thought of in
    the future, postulating, "Perhaps in 20 years they will give me the
    Nobel Prize; maybe they will build me a memorial. Or they will kill
    me."

    ABS

    Silly boy!

    Kill first.

    THEN the memorial, in another 20 years or so.

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    Quick, hand me a TINY, please:

    http://tinyurl.com/2t3kw7

    --D-y

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    Quoted message said:

    With much laughter I post this from CyclingNews:
    Fuentes guessed at how his medical practices would be thought of in
    the future, postulating, "Perhaps in 20 years they will give me the
    Nobel Prize; maybe they will build me a memorial. Or they will kill
    me."

    The fact remains that a large number of Dutch cyclists died from the effects
    of EPO. After Doctors started handling the doping the numbers of deaths
    dropped dramatically.

    What would you think the responsibility of Doctors would be? Do you think
    that they should turn away athletes and allow them to die from ignorance
    about drug use? Or that if they're looking for someone to prescribe drugs to
    them properly they're probably going to use them properly or improperly and
    it's better for a Doctor to handle it so that the athlete doesn't end up
    killing himself accidentally?

  4. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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    Quoted message said:

    With much laughter I post this from CyclingNews:
    Fuentes guessed at how his medical practices would be thought of in
    the future, postulating, "Perhaps in 20 years they will give me the
    Nobel Prize; maybe they will build me a memorial. Or they will kill
    me."

    The fact remains that a large number of Dutch cyclists died from the effects
    of EPO. After Doctors started handling the doping the numbers of deaths
    dropped dramatically.

    What would you think the responsibility of Doctors would be? Do you think
    that they should turn away athletes and allow them to die from ignorance
    about drug use? Or that if they're looking for someone to prescribe drugs to
    them properly they're probably going to use them properly or improperly and
    it's better for a Doctor to handle it so that the athlete doesn't end up
    killing himself accidentally?

    There was a great lab during one period, doing experimental, top-
    secret experimentation. Hush hush, and all that. Just a little too
    secret and where they were lacking in technical help, people died.

    Omerta Pharmaceuticals. They coulda been great.

    (I think the responsibility of doctors is to do no harm, and maintain
    patient confidentiality. Sugar plums and pixie dust.)

    Happy New Year, MOS! --D-y

  5. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    With much laughter I post this from CyclingNews:
    Fuentes guessed at how his medical practices would be thought of in
    the future, postulating, "Perhaps in 20 years they will give me the
    Nobel Prize; maybe they will build me a memorial. Or they will kill
    me."

    The fact remains that a large number of Dutch cyclists died from the effects
    of EPO. After Doctors started handling the doping the numbers of deaths
    dropped dramatically.

    What would you think the responsibility of Doctors would be? Do you think
    that they should turn away athletes and allow them to die from ignorance
    about drug use? Or that if they're looking for someone to prescribe drugs to
    them properly they're probably going to use them properly or improperly and
    it's better for a Doctor to handle it so that the athlete doesn't end up
    killing himself accidentally?

    i agree, EPO and blood doping should be covered under health
    insurance.

    poor joe papp couldn't afford the $30,000 a year fuentes charges and
    had to stop racing.

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    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:


    The fact remains that a large number of Dutch cyclists died from the
    effects
    of EPO. After Doctors started handling the doping the numbers of deaths
    dropped dramatically.

    What would you think the responsibility of Doctors would be? Do you think
    that they should turn away athletes and allow them to die from ignorance
    about drug use? Or that if they're looking for someone to prescribe drugs
    to
    them properly they're probably going to use them properly or improperly
    and
    it's better for a Doctor to handle it so that the athlete doesn't end up
    killing himself accidentally?

    i agree, EPO and blood doping should be covered under health
    insurance.

    poor joe papp couldn't afford the $30,000 a year fuentes charges and
    had to stop racing.

    Thanks for addressing the question raised.

  7. On Dec 28, 5:18 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    With much laughter I post this from CyclingNews:
    Fuentes guessed at how his medical practices would be thought of in
    the future, postulating, "Perhaps in 20 years they will give me the
    Nobel Prize; maybe they will build me a memorial. Or they will kill
    me."

    Quoted message said:

    The fact remains that a large number of Dutch cyclists died from the effects
    of EPO. After Doctors started handling the doping the numbers of deaths
    dropped dramatically.

    Quoted message said:

    What would you think the responsibility of Doctors would be? Do you think
    that they should turn away athletes and allow them to die from ignorance
    about drug use? Or that if they're looking for someone to prescribe drugs to
    them properly they're probably going to use them properly or improperly and
    it's better for a Doctor to handle it so that the athlete doesn't end up
    killing himself accidentally?

    i agree, EPO and blood doping should be covered under health
    insurance.

    No worse than what's going on now. At least you're looking at things
    from the other side?

    Quoted message said:

    poor joe papp couldn't afford the $30,000 a year fuentes charges and
    had to stop racing.

    Something to ponder, there. --D-y

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    On Dec 28, 5:18 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Dec 28, 4:32 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > With much laughter I post this from CyclingNews:
    > Fuentes guessed at how his medical practices would be thought of in
    > the future, postulating, "Perhaps in 20 years they will give me the
    > Nobel Prize; maybe they will build me a memorial. Or they will kill
    > me."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The fact remains that a large number of Dutch cyclists died from the effects
    of EPO. After Doctors started handling the doping the numbers of deaths
    dropped dramatically.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What would you think the responsibility of Doctors would be? Do you think
    that they should turn away athletes and allow them to die from ignorance
    about drug use? Or that if they're looking for someone to prescribe drugs to
    them properly they're probably going to use them properly or improperly and
    it's better for a Doctor to handle it so that the athlete doesn't end up
    killing himself accidentally?

    Quoted message said:

    i agree, EPO and blood doping should be covered under health
    insurance.

    No worse than what's going on now. At least you're looking at things
    from the other side?

    Quoted message said:

    poor joe papp couldn't afford the $30,000 a year fuentes charges and
    had to stop racing.

    Something to ponder, there. --D-y

    dumbass,

    there isn't anything to ponder.

    at the high end you can pay a doc the equivalent of a domestiques
    salary and you have some security of not testing positive or a bad
    side-effect (both would be bad for business).

    at the low end riders are still procuring dope and using cavalierly
    and risking a positive test or adverse side effect (ie. what happened
    to joe papp).

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    With much laughter I post this from CyclingNews:
    Fuentes guessed at how his medical practices would be thought of in
    the future, postulating, "Perhaps in 20 years they will give me the
    Nobel Prize; maybe they will build me a memorial. Or they will kill
    me."

    The fact remains that a large number of Dutch cyclists died from the effects
    of EPO. After Doctors started handling the doping the numbers of deaths
    dropped dramatically.

    What would you think the responsibility of Doctors would be? Do you think
    that they should turn away athletes and allow them to die from ignorance
    about drug use? Or that if they're looking for someone to prescribe drugs to
    them properly they're probably going to use them properly or improperly and
    it's better for a Doctor to handle it so that the athlete doesn't end up
    killing himself accidentally?

    I think that cyclists should continue to consult back-alley
    physicians to prescribe and monitor the cyclists' doping
    programs. One of the reasons that I think cyclists should
    dope is so I can hear all the weak sisters squeal when
    another athlete is "caught" doping.

    --
    Michael Press

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