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  1. "Tom Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204973430&ref=nf

    In the group info:

    "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    Report it to the police.

    David Lloyd

  2. Tom Crispin said:

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204973430&ref=nf

    In the group info:

    "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    Frankly, I already knew that some muppets exist. It's reassuring to see
    how it only has 36 members.

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  3. Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:

    Quoted message said:

    "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
    administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
    be a criminal offence these days?

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  4. Paul Boyd said:

    Incitement to kill must surely
    be a criminal offence these days?

    Not unless you sport a long beard and a turban.

  5. "Paul Boyd" <usenet.is.worse@plusnet> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:

    Quoted message said:

    "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
    administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely be
    a criminal offence these days?


    The big mistake is to take the existence of the group seriously...

    To see the group you have to log on as you've said and even when you've
    logged on you are unlikely to stumble across it unless the group has a
    member that is loosely linked to you through one of your friends or social
    groups.

    Folk who use Facebook have too much time on their hands ;-)

    I prefer using stumbleupon www.stumbleupon.co.uk to waste my time at the
    keyboard. At least there's a chance that i'll find something useful ;-)

  6. Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:

    Quoted message said:

    "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    Quoted message said:

    It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
    administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
    be a criminal offence these days?

    --
    Paul Boydhttp://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

    http://www.facebook.com/report.php?id=2204973430&h=7e3e68127e

    Facebook say "We will NOT remove groups just because you disagree with
    the statement being made." but also list "Attacks individual or group"
    as one of the possible reasons for removing a group. I guess it's a
    fine line between allowing freedom of speech and disallowing hatred
    against certain groups. Presumably in Facebook's eyes, there are forms
    of hate group that fall on one side of that line and those that don't.
    I can't see anything about killing cyclists on there, then again you
    have to join by special request so can't see the contents of the
    discussions.

    If you search for "cyclist" in the groups on the site, it comes up
    with at least as many anti-cyclist groups as pro. Sad, really... I
    always get tempted to join and have a go at them but then decide my
    time's worth more than arguing with these idiots.

    Hel
    --
    http://bikehippies.blogspot.com/

  7. Helen said:
    Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
    administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
    be a criminal offence these days?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Paul Boydhttp://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.facebook.com/report.php?id=2204973430&h=7e3e68127e

    Quoted message said:

    Facebook say "We will NOT remove groups just because you disagree with
    the statement being made." but also list "Attacks individual or group"
    as one of the possible reasons for removing a group. I guess it's a
    fine line between allowing freedom of speech and disallowing hatred
    against certain groups. Presumably in Facebook's eyes, there are forms
    of hate group that fall on one side of that line and those that don't.
    I can't see anything about killing cyclists on there, then again you
    have to join by special request so can't see the contents of the
    discussions.

    Don't take it so personally. It's a joke, Literally and obviously.

    You can find far more websites containing arguments against the
    interests of the nuclear family, the home-owner, the adult male and
    (especially) the car driver. Given that background, I have no doubt
    that the Facebook members concerned are possessed of an acute sense of
    irony. Some others should try it some time.

    And perhaps some of them should remember: "Do unto others as you would
    have them do unto you", because sometimes, some of them *will* do unto
    you.

  8. renum said:
    Paul Boyd said:

    Incitement to kill must surely be a criminal offence these days?

    Quoted message said:

    Not unless you sport a long beard and a turban.

    What do Sikhs have to do with anything?

    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

  9. in message <[email hidden]>, Paul Boyd

    ('usenet.is.worse@plusnet') said:

    Tom Crispin said the following on 23/11/2007 19:17:

    Quoted message said:

    "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
    administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
    be a criminal offence these days?

    Jeremy Clarkson has incited people to kill cyclists in the columns of that
    august journal, 'The Sun'. Neither he nor the honoured editor of said
    periodical have, so far as we know, been interrogated by the authorities
    in this regard. Just remember: incitement to kill infidels is a very
    serious offence, resulting in lengthy jail terms. Incitement to kill
    cyclists is a joke, and one is lacking in a sense of humour if one takes
    offence at it.

    Myself, I wouldn't incite anyone to kill Jeremy Clarkson. Hanging him up by
    the testicles (if he has any) over a spike sharp enough to penetrate his
    skull (if such a thing is possible) - and leaving him to rot there -
    would, however, be a symbolic act of great humorous potential. We would
    laugh and laugh.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; my other religion is Emacs

  10. Tom Crispin said:

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204973430&ref=nf

    In the group info:

    "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    Here's a social network that is very unlikely to have any cyclist hate
    groups: http://www.meandmybicycle.com/ :-)

  11. On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:29:36 +0000, Simon Brooke
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Myself, I wouldn't incite anyone to kill Jeremy Clarkson. Hanging him up by
    the testicles (if he has any) over a spike sharp enough to penetrate his
    skull (if such a thing is possible) - and leaving him to rot there -
    would, however, be a symbolic act of great humorous potential. We would
    laugh and laugh.

    As a starter, try this:

    <http://newsbiscuit.com/article/sports-cars-to-display-drivers-penis-size>

    --

    Tim

    fast and gripping, non pompous, glossy and credible.

  12. "Helen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Crispin said:

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204973430&ref=nf

    In the group info:

    "This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    Here's a social network that is very unlikely to have any cyclist hate
    groups: http://www.meandmybicycle.com/ :-)

    What about unicyclist derision? ;-)

  13. "JNugent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >"This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    >cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    >cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
    administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
    be a criminal offence these days?

    Quoted message said:

    Don't take it so personally. It's a joke, Literally and obviously.

    You can find far more websites containing arguments against the interests
    of the nuclear family, the home-owner, the adult male and (especially) the
    car driver. Given that background, I have no doubt that the Facebook
    members concerned are possessed of an acute sense of irony. Some others
    should try it some time.

    And perhaps some of them should remember: "Do unto others as you would
    have them do unto you", because sometimes, some of them *will* do unto
    you.

    This is absolute rubbish and tripe Nugent. Honestly I don't understand how
    you can imagine or attribute notions to these awful people like "irony" or
    an "obvious joke".

    Two of our club members were very nearly injured today (just 4 or 5 hours
    ago) by similar fun seeking jokers. It's their legs, arms and livelihoods
    that are endangered by these brainless cretins.

    Come out with us next week and see how durable your humour is. Please meet
    us at 9.00 p.m. , venue on club runs page, www.calder-clarion.co.uk , club
    runs page.

    I'll happily buy your breakfast half way round.

    John

  14. vernon said:

    What about unicyclist derision? ;-)

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2211163153

    Of course, you'll probably have to be logged into FB to see this. For
    non-members, the group is called "Don't be jealous because I can ride a
    unicycle and you cant!!"

    This is the group that I created:
    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6205936970

    --
    Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk>
    Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
    "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis

  15. Paul Boyd said:

    I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
    administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
    be a criminal offence these days?

    Groups can be reported to FB, but they don't seem to do anything about
    it. I happened across a cyber-bullying group 3 or 4 weeks ago, set up
    by a US high school student specifically for him and his mates to
    discuss how much they hate one of their teachers (which is against FB's
    t&c's). Although I reported it at the time, it's still there.

    --
    Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk>
    Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
    "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis

  16. John Clayton said:

    "JNugent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>"This group was created by people, for people, who do not like
    >>cyclists for various reasons. We are entitled to our view that
    >>cyclists are at best a self-righteous bunch of road [censored]".

    Quoted message said:

    >>It also discusses the best way to kill cyclists.

    Quoted message said:

    >I can't see this because it wants me to log in, but is there a site
    >administrator this can be reported to? Incitement to kill must surely
    >be a criminal offence these days?

    Quoted message said:

    Don't take it so personally. It's a joke, Literally and obviously.

    You can find far more websites containing arguments against the interests
    of the nuclear family, the home-owner, the adult male and (especially) the
    car driver. Given that background, I have no doubt that the Facebook
    members concerned are possessed of an acute sense of irony. Some others
    should try it some time.

    And perhaps some of them should remember: "Do unto others as you would
    have them do unto you", because sometimes, some of them *will* do unto
    you.

    This is absolute rubbish and tripe Nugent. Honestly I don't understand how
    you can imagine or attribute notions to these awful people like "irony" or
    an "obvious joke".

    Two of our club members were very nearly injured today (just 4 or 5 hours
    ago) by similar fun seeking jokers. It's their legs, arms and livelihoods
    that are endangered by these brainless cretins.

    Come out with us next week and see how durable your humour is. Please meet
    us at 9.00 p.m. , venue on club runs page, www.calder-clarion.co.uk , club
    runs page.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll happily buy your breakfast half way round.

    Quoted message said:

    John

    Thank you for your very kind offer, John. I shan't be able to take it
    up (I will either be at work on a weekday or doing other things at the
    weekend, and there's nothing to suggest that it would be
    geographically convenient in any case).

    Of *course* the Facebook "group" is a joke (there is more than one of
    them, BTW*). If you really believe it's not a joke - or, as it might
    better be put, a wind-up (and one that seems to have worked) - why not
    report it to the police? You know it's not a threat.

    Have a little look around Facebook (it won't take long). There are
    absolutely loads of self-styled "hate groups" professing to be against
    this group or that group, or even against specific individuals. Who
    knows - you may well be able to find a Facebook group that says they
    hate motorists. You might be able to find more than one of those. Are
    you worried about that? I'm not.

    Here are just a few of Facebook's "hate" groups:

    I Hate Men
    I Hate Jeremy Kyle
    We Hate Yids
    I Hate Traffic Wardens With A Passion (especially in Bromey0 [sic]
    I f****** hate Ken Livingston and any other anti-Semites
    I hate London bus-drivers
    i hate toilet attendants [sic]
    Hate Public Transport

    Are you in such bad company?

    And in any case - are you entitled to be liked? Or not to be hated?

    [* There are at least a dozen groups there who profess to hate
    cyclists. There are also quite a few "hate groups" run by *cyclists*
    who hate other sorts of road-users (particularly the users of
    motor-vehicles). Is that better, the same, or worse?]

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