36’’ Schlumpf

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Daytripper, from where/how did you build your up?? How much did it
cost?? I'm curious as to why UDC doesn't sell the 36er GUNI...any
thoughts?

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osmundo said:

Daytripper, from where/how did you build your up?? How much did it
cost?? I'm curious as to why UDC doesn't sell the 36er GUNI...any
thoughts?

It's quite a financial risk for them, putting a lot of effort and money
in to building a uni that might well sit on the shelves for months. I
know one of these cost £1200 to put together.

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kington99 said:

It's quite a financial risk for them, putting a lot of effort and money
in to building a uni that might well sit on the shelves for months. I
know one of these cost £1200 to put together.

Oh, the joys of unicycle retailing.....

Almost any bike shop worth walking into has several bikes worth twice
that hanging up in their showroom. And they're not internet companies.

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osmundo said:

Daytripper, from where/how did you build your up?? How much did it
cost?? I'm curious as to why UDC doesn't sell the 36er GUNI...any
thoughts?

Maybe one day they will. The Nimbus 36 frame as a hole for the torque
arm attachment. However, it would have to be bent to accommodate the
Schlumpf hub, which is not as wide as the Nimbus Extra Wide. I'm sure
Roger Davies in the UK would be amenable to fitting a Schlumpf hub into
a new uni, though - and perhaps UDC US would do the same if you asked
for a custom job. It'd cost though!

36" gunis are an awesome idea; if they cost less or if I had more money
then I'd be very tempted. However, they do kind of negate some of the
advantages of a guni: that you can have a smaller, lighter uni that's
still fast and (relatively) easy to pedal. That said, a high gear on
the 36er with suitably long cranks would probably suit me better in
terms of control (and required fitness) than my current 36" / short
cranks setup. It would also make it easier to switch between distance
riding and coker muni.

I guess another reason that UDC don't offer a geared 36" uni is that it
would possibly -have- to be a custom job regardless of whether it is
displayed on their store page. Which is to say they might have to
build it up themselves specially, rather than getting it mass-produced.
And I guess, finally, that the people who want to buy geared 36ers
probably usually have -really- specific needs and know exactly what
they want and therefore won't want to buy an off the shelf cycle.

If I wanted a guni, the logical thing (my head tells me) would be to
sell my 36" and buy a KH / Schlumpf hub and a KH frame for my 29". But
my heart is not going to let me give up the bigger wheel, regardless of
what might be sensible :-)

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I have one and we will sell them if you wanted one. :-)

The reason they are not in the shop is that they are so bespoke. So if
you seriously do want one then give me a call and we can discuss it.

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mark williamson said:

I'm sure Roger Davies in the UK would be amenable to fitting a
Schlumpf hub into a new uni

rogeratunicycledotcom said:

I have one and we will sell them if you wanted one. :-)

Incidentally, I wasn't intending to volunteer you against your will,
Roger 😉 I just had a hunch!

Out of interest, are you able to sell Schlumpf hubs separately, as an
upgrade? One day when I have made my millions, or at least got a
better job than I currently have, it would be nice to get on the guni
bandwagon since everybody seems to like them so much!

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By pure coincidence, I was searching for other info, and came across
this thread;
http://tinyurl.com/2t7l3b

The interesting post is the one by Dave Stockton (U-turn) about why a
36" Schlumpf is *not *a good idea, and that he won't build one.

2 years on, I wonder how those with 36" Schlumpfs feel about the
strength of their wheel. Are U-turns fears justifiable, or should he
be doing a U-turn on his thinking? (Sorry, it's a cheap joke, but one
that had to be made!).

I also remember reading somewhere that Florian said that he would never
sell a 36" Schlumpf for safety reasons, due to the amount of damage you
can do to yourself when riding one of these fast. But that thread
seems to indicate otherwise.

STM

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I know Hans Fiby had a Schlumpf 36" on the SINZ Unitour before it got
stolen and he said he'd had no problems with flex. And he's a pretty
big guy.

I've also ridden an airfoil Coker with both a narrow Suzue hub and the
Std UDC hubs off-road (hard!) and they've held up pretty well. If
you're building a Coker wheel in order to leap off tall buildings then
I'm sure U-Turns wheels would be ideal.

Florian said was that the intention was not so much speed as it is to
slow down your pedalling cadence. If you're not comfortable with high
cadences/short cranks then the Schlumpf hub would be a more relaxing
ride on a 36".

If you're going for all out speed then yes, it can be dangerous on a
36" schlumpf in top gear. But because the gear is so large, it's
actually quite hard to wind it up to speed with short cranks, so you
end up using longer cranks which tends to slow your cadence and speed
down. To really get it up to speed you would have to go on a gentle
downhill I think. But not too steep :p

Here is a photo of a 36" Schlumpf being ridden down the steepest street
in the world:

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mark williamson said:

36" gunis are an awesome idea;

Thank you.

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harper said:

Thank you.

Yes, you're welcome (now that I think of it!) 🙂 Like many others I
was drooling over der uber Coker before the Schlumpfs came on the
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I've read that at higher speeds the 36 is more stable than the 29er.
Makes sense to me. Anyone out there with personal experience on this?
Does anyone know how a 36er guni would compare in weight to my 17 lb
coker?

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I called UDK and ordered all the parts they shipped them to me. I had to
cut the spokes and lace up the weal. I used a KH36’’ frame
and a doubled walled rim. The unicycle is worth over $2600 It is 22lbs

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hendyjr05 said:

I KH36’’ frame

wow! i didnt know there was such a thing! i need to check up on these
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mark williamson said:

I guess another reason that UDC don't offer a geared 36" uni is that it
would possibly -have- to be a custom job regardless of whether it is
displayed on their store page. Which is to say they might have to
build it up themselves specially, rather than getting it mass-produced.
And I guess, finally, that the people who want to buy geared 36ers
probably usually have -really- specific needs and know exactly what
they want and therefore won't want to buy an off the shelf cycle.

Yeah, it'd be dumb to spend loads of money on a schlumpf and just buy a
completely stock model. There are so many things about a distance uni
that are personal preference that you'd want to mess around with it
loads.

I've ridden 3 geared 36s, they kind of seem alright, but the geared
29er is so convenient and multi-purpose, and if you run 125mm cranks is
about the same speed as a geared 36 with 170mm cranks like people seem
to use.

I think also a geared 36 is pretty extreme, and it'd be pretty weird to
want to ride one before you'd ridden a 36 a bit, whereas if they were
listed and obviously available on unicycle.com, they'd sell to all the
people with loads of money who just want the shinyest most expensive
unicycle out there.

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joemarshall said:

I think also a geared 36 is pretty extreme, and it'd be pretty weird to
want to ride one before you'd ridden a 36 a bit, whereas if they were
listed and obviously available on unicycle.com, they'd sell to all the
people with loads of money who just want the shinyest most expensive
unicycle out there.

You say that like it's a bad thing. One of the reasons why unicycling
bits in general are so expensive is that they are only made in small
production runs. If UDC and the rest of the retailers out there were
pushing these, then they'd sell more to the rich kids, putting the
production numbers higher, making the prices lower, and in turn making
available a lot of cheap second hand unicycles that the inexperienced
rich riders realise that they can't handle.

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osmundo said:

Daytripper, from where/how did you build your up?? How much did it
cost?? I'm curious as to why UDC doesn't sell the 36er GUNI...any
thoughts?

I sent an E-mail to Roger at UDC UK as I had heard the Nimbus 36 frame
would accomodate a Schlumpf hub, and once Roger confirmed this I
inquired about buying the hub separately and between UDC-UK and UDC-USA
I should have my geared 36 with Nimbus frame on Monday. You should be
able to contact the UDC closest to you and they can build one, but dont
be in a hurry, I first inquired about this back in Feb, March of this
year. As for price, I will be into this one for a little over 2k

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semach.the.monkey said:

By pure coincidence, I was searching for other info, and came across
this thread;
http://tinyurl.com/2t7l3b

The interesting post is the one by Dave Stockton (U-turn) about why a
36" Schlumpf is *not *a good idea, and that he won't build one.

2 years on, I wonder how those with 36" Schlumpfs feel about the
strength of their wheel. Are U-turns fears justifiable, or should he
be doing a U-turn on his thinking? (Sorry, it's a cheap joke, but one
that had to be made!).

I also remember reading somewhere that Florian said that he would never
sell a 36" Schlumpf for safety reasons, due to the amount of damage you
can do to yourself when riding one of these fast. But that thread
seems to indicate otherwise.

STM

Ahhh yeah, I started that thread a while back. I ended up saving some
money and going with a non-geared coker (which I love). I still really
want a geared 36, but now I am deciding between the new KH/Schlumpf
hub, or the design that unisk8r has with the Red Menace.

Also, as Ken pointed out...Hans loved his schlumpf 36, and had no
problems with wheel strength.

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siafirede said:

Ahhh yeah, I started that thread a while back. I ended up saving some
money and going with a non-geared coker (which I love). I still really
want a geared 36, but now I am deciding between the new KH/Schlumpf
hub, or the design that unisk8r has with the Red Menace.

Also, as Ken pointed out...Hans loved his schlumpf 36, and had no
problems with wheel strength.

Although apparently Florian Schlumpf has expressed worries regarding
the risk of injury when going at 36" Schlumpf speeds I do rather agree
with what somebody said in that thread: the main advantage of it
wouldn't be the ability to go ridiculously fast. Rather it'd just be
good for folks (like me) who don't like riding with really short cranks
but would still like to maintain a decent cruising speed (and, as
always, to have a low gear for muni stuff).

Presumably the KH Schlumpf hub will be wider than the original hub?
And therefore more suitable for 36ers? That'd be cool; and could be
combined with the dual length KH cranks to give a ridiculous range of
configurations!

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