Blackouts?

"shinypenny" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I had to stop for a stoplight, and as soon as I stopped running, I
became a little nauseous. Then the world suddenly started going black
on me, and I reached for a telephone pole just in time before it went
completely black. I didn't actually faint - it came and went quickly.

After my sight came back, I turned around and walked back, feeling
shaky. I just ate a can of tuna (in case it's a protein issue). The
only thing I can think of is maybe low blood pressure, since my bp
does tend to run on the low side?

If I stop suddenly after running, my heart sometimes slows down, and I'll
start blacking out.

I recommend you get it checked out. The medical term is Syncope -- google
it. There are many causes; here's my experience (which may have nothing to
do with what happened to you):

After my last episode 15 years ago, I went to a cardiologist who hooked me
up to a treadmill and I reproduced it by running fast then jumping off the
'mill. He said it was just Vasovegal syncope (vegas nerve slowing down the
heart). He said it wasn't dangerous and recommended that I don't stop
suddenly.

I also have very low BP (90/60 when relaxed), and will sometimes get dizzy
when I stand up suddenly.

I've learned to never stop suddenly, or if I must, I continue jogging in
place. If I feel it coming on, I purse my lips and blow without letting the
air escape, that seems to pump up the blood pressure quickly. I haven't had
an episode in many years.

I have also gotten dizzy and the shakes when my blood sugar is too low
(happens sometimes on a long run after 20-25 miles). The cure is to get
some carbs immediately and the symptoms subside within 2 minutes.

shinypenny said:

I just attempted a run, and 5 minutes into it, I nearly blacked out.

I was going very slow - just warming up. It's on the hot side today,
but not all that humid, and I thought it was going to be a very nice
run. I felt strong. I was well-hydrated. This was about an hour after
eating a 500-calorie, high-carb lunch (a yogurt smoothie incl banana
and raspberries and an energy bar).

I had to stop for a stoplight, and as soon as I stopped running, I
became a little nauseous. Then the world suddenly started going black
on me, and I reached for a telephone pole just in time before it went
completely black. I didn't actually faint - it came and went quickly.

After my sight came back, I turned around and walked back, feeling
shaky. I just ate a can of tuna (in case it's a protein issue). The
only thing I can think of is maybe low blood pressure, since my bp
does tend to run on the low side? I didn't have any chest pain or
anything like that. No pain at all - just a wave of nausea, then
everything went black. Like a woosh into my head. I guess I was a
little dizzy too, but when the world goes dark on you suddenly, I
assume that would be expected.

Anyone else ever have this happen?

jen

It happened to me last year in December. It was about 40 deg at 7am
and windy. I wanted to go on a 10 mile run. I went about 2 miles and
realized I wasn't dressed for the weather. I headed back. I was about
a quarter of a mile away from my house. I stopped suddenly. I'm not a
fast runner (10 min miles on a good day). Even then my vision became
very blurry, It didn't go black but very hazy, I could not stand. I
had to get on all fours and stay very low. I practically dragged
myself across the front yards. I would crawl a few feet and sit down.
Ironically, I felt quite warm during this. It took me about 20 minutes
to get to my home like this. I rang the bell and crawled inside when
my DH opened the door. I drank a glass of orange juice and slowly
became normal after 15 min or so. It was a sunday morning so nobody
was up. I couldn't even ask for a ride. It was very scary. My BP is
usually about 105/60. I no longer run outside when it's cold and I
don't come to a complete stop until I reach home.

D Stumpus said:

If I stop suddenly after running, my heart sometimes slows down, and I'll
start blacking out.

I recommend you get it checked out. The medical term is Syncope -- google
it. There are many causes; here's my experience (which may have nothing to
do with what happened to you):

After my last episode 15 years ago, I went to a cardiologist who hooked me
up to a treadmill and I reproduced it by running fast then jumping off the
'mill. He said it was just Vasovegal syncope (vegas nerve slowing down the
heart). He said it wasn't dangerous and recommended that I don't stop
suddenly.

I also have very low BP (90/60 when relaxed), and will sometimes get dizzy
when I stand up suddenly.

I've learned to never stop suddenly, or if I must, I continue jogging in
place. If I feel it coming on, I purse my lips and blow without letting the
air escape, that seems to pump up the blood pressure quickly. I haven't had
an episode in many years.

Thanks, Dan - that's what I was thinking, that it was because I came
to a sudden, dead stop. I wasn't really exerting myself all that much
(this was only 5 minutes into the run -just getting warmed up- heck
there were walkers walking faster than me!), so I didn't think it
necessary to jog in place.

Quoted message said:

I have also gotten dizzy and the shakes when my blood sugar is too low
(happens sometimes on a long run after 20-25 miles). The cure is to get
some carbs immediately and the symptoms subside within 2 minutes.

I get this too sometimes. I think it's happened maybe three times in
the last year. When the blood sugar drops, I feel it all over my body,
particularly in my legs. You just run out of energy and can't go any
farther and start to shake. You know you need food - NOW!

But that's a different experience than this was. I had plenty of
energy and was feeling perfectly fine one minute, and the next minute
the world turned black on me like a woosh and fell away. It was only
afterwards that I felt shaky, but that could've also been
psychological... because it was kinda scary, you know what I mean?

I feel fine now, but I'm going to wait until my girlfriend is home
later, and see if she'll go running with me, just to be safe. We have
a lot of traffic here - it probably wouldn't be a good idea to pass
out suddenly in the middle of the bus lane or intersection!

jen

shinypenny said:

I just ate a can of tuna (in case it's a protein issue).

Nevermind the protein issue, when you pass that can of tuna, you'll be
worrying about something else than the protein issue. If you chewed it
up, be prepared for a bloody mess, and if you swallowed it whole you
are going to "pinch a loaf" like no other.
Pics or a video would be cool...

If it happend repeatedly, maybe Id go to a doctor.
Otherwise theres lots of things that might just cause
it once and not again.

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:29:08 -0700, rick++ <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

If it happend repeatedly, maybe Id go to a doctor.
Otherwise theres lots of things that might just cause
it once and not again.

Well Rick, since you are in a permanent state of blackout, I think
you'll give good advice (for an idiot).

TBR

shinypenny said:

D Stumpus said:

If I stop suddenly after running, my heart sometimes slows down, and I'll
start blacking out.

Quoted message said:

I recommend you get it checked out. The medical term is Syncope -- google
it. There are many causes; here's my experience (which may have nothing to
do with what happened to you):

Quoted message said:

After my last episode 15 years ago, I went to a cardiologist who hooked me
up to a treadmill and I reproduced it by running fast then jumping off the
'mill. He said it was just Vasovegal syncope (vegas nerve slowing down the
heart). He said it wasn't dangerous and recommended that I don't stop
suddenly.

Quoted message said:

I also have very low BP (90/60 when relaxed), and will sometimes get dizzy
when I stand up suddenly.

Quoted message said:

I've learned to never stop suddenly, or if I must, I continue jogging in
place. If I feel it coming on, I purse my lips and blow without letting the
air escape, that seems to pump up the blood pressure quickly. I haven't had
an episode in many years.

Thanks, Dan - that's what I was thinking, that it was because I came
to a sudden, dead stop. I wasn't really exerting myself all that much
(this was only 5 minutes into the run -just getting warmed up- heck
there were walkers walking faster than me!), so I didn't think it
necessary to jog in place.

Quoted message said:

I have also gotten dizzy and the shakes when my blood sugar is too low
(happens sometimes on a long run after 20-25 miles). The cure is to get
some carbs immediately and the symptoms subside within 2 minutes.

I get this too sometimes. I think it's happened maybe three times in
the last year. When the blood sugar drops, I feel it all over my body,
particularly in my legs. You just run out of energy and can't go any
farther and start to shake. You know you need food - NOW!

But that's a different experience than this was. I had plenty of
energy and was feeling perfectly fine one minute, and the next minute
the world turned black on me like a woosh and fell away. It was only
afterwards that I felt shaky, but that could've also been
psychological... because it was kinda scary, you know what I mean?

I feel fine now, but I'm going to wait until my girlfriend is home
later, and see if she'll go running with me, just to be safe. We have
a lot of traffic here - it probably wouldn't be a good idea to pass
out suddenly in the middle of the bus lane or intersection!

jen

You had that bad run back in July that prompted you to get a stress
test and more. This seems different, but it might all be related to a
yet undiagnosed heart problem. It's fine for people to say they had
similar things happen, but that won't solve your problem. And it's
clear that you do have a medical problem that requires further
investigation. This group can't provide that.

shinypenny said:

D Stumpus said:

If I stop suddenly after running, my heart sometimes slows down, and I'll
start blacking out.

Quoted message said:

I recommend you get it checked out. The medical term is Syncope -- google
it. There are many causes; here's my experience (which may have nothing to
do with what happened to you):

Quoted message said:

After my last episode 15 years ago, I went to a cardiologist who hooked me
up to a treadmill and I reproduced it by running fast then jumping off the
'mill. He said it was just Vasovegal syncope (vegas nerve slowing down the
heart). He said it wasn't dangerous and recommended that I don't stop
suddenly.

Quoted message said:

I also have very low BP (90/60 when relaxed), and will sometimes get dizzy
when I stand up suddenly.

Quoted message said:

I've learned to never stop suddenly, or if I must, I continue jogging in
place. If I feel it coming on, I purse my lips and blow without letting the
air escape, that seems to pump up the blood pressure quickly. I haven't had
an episode in many years.

Thanks, Dan - that's what I was thinking, that it was because I came
to a sudden, dead stop. I wasn't really exerting myself all that much
(this was only 5 minutes into the run -just getting warmed up- heck
there were walkers walking faster than me!), so I didn't think it
necessary to jog in place.

Quoted message said:

I have also gotten dizzy and the shakes when my blood sugar is too low
(happens sometimes on a long run after 20-25 miles). The cure is to get
some carbs immediately and the symptoms subside within 2 minutes.

I get this too sometimes. I think it's happened maybe three times in
the last year. When the blood sugar drops, I feel it all over my body,
particularly in my legs. You just run out of energy and can't go any
farther and start to shake. You know you need food - NOW!

But that's a different experience than this was. I had plenty of
energy and was feeling perfectly fine one minute, and the next minute
the world turned black on me like a woosh and fell away. It was only
afterwards that I felt shaky, but that could've also been
psychological... because it was kinda scary, you know what I mean?

I feel fine now, but I'm going to wait until my girlfriend is home
later, and see if she'll go running with me, just to be safe. We have
a lot of traffic here - it probably wouldn't be a good idea to pass
out suddenly in the middle of the bus lane or intersection!

jen

You had that bad run back in July that prompted you to get a stress
test and more. This seems different, but it might all be related to a
yet undiagnosed heart problem. It's fine for people to say they had
similar things happen, but that won't solve your problem. And it's
clear that you do have a medical problem that requires further
investigation. This group can't provide that.

It seems to me I heard somewhere that D Stumpus wrote in article
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

"shinypenny" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had to stop for a stoplight, and as soon as I stopped running, I
became a little nauseous. Then the world suddenly started going black
on me, and I reached for a telephone pole just in time before it went
completely black. I didn't actually faint - it came and went quickly.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

After my sight came back, I turned around and walked back, feeling
shaky. I just ate a can of tuna (in case it's a protein issue). The
only thing I can think of is maybe low blood pressure, since my bp
does tend to run on the low side?

Quoted message said:

If I stop suddenly after running, my heart sometimes slows down, and I'll
start blacking out.

Quoted message said:

I recommend you get it checked out. The medical term is Syncope -- google
it. There are many causes; here's my experience (which may have nothing to
do with what happened to you):

Quoted message said:

After my last episode 15 years ago, I went to a cardiologist who hooked me
up to a treadmill and I reproduced it by running fast then jumping off the
'mill. He said it was just Vasovegal syncope (vegas nerve slowing down the
heart). He said it wasn't dangerous and recommended that I don't stop
suddenly.

Quoted message said:

I also have very low BP (90/60 when relaxed), and will sometimes get dizzy
when I stand up suddenly.

Quoted message said:

I have also gotten dizzy and the shakes when my blood sugar is too low
(happens sometimes on a long run after 20-25 miles). The cure is to get
some carbs immediately and the symptoms subside within 2 minutes.

I share this sometime dizziness when standing suddenly, and for the same
reasons - slow pulse and occasional low blood pressure when relaxed.

The nearest thing I've had to your experience, Jen, was several years
ago. I was a couple hundred yards from the end of a planned medium run
when I had to slow to a walk, and everything around me turned a lovely
fuchsia color. I didn't feel dizzy but did feel disassociated from what
I saw around me; this gradually came back to normal as I walked the
remaining half mile to my house.

I can't locate this in my old log book so I'm not sure of details, but I
had never had that before, have never had it since, and I have no idea
what brought it on. It was during a time when I was still doing
occasional runs of 10 or 12 miles at a slow (Galloway) pace.
--
Don Kirkman

Runs far away said:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:29:08 -0700, rick++ <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

If it happend repeatedly, maybe Id go to a doctor.
Otherwise theres lots of things that might just cause
it once and not again.

Well Rick, since you are in a permanent state of blackout, I think
you'll give good advice (for an idiot).

TBR

Life never gets any better for you, does it?

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:48:38 -0500, Alric Knebel

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Life never gets any better for you, does it?

It gets better by the moment, especially with my 1,000,000 reader mark
approaching much sooner than expected.
If you find yourself bored just do a websearch of your sex offender
notice. The results should keep you busy for a few HOURS at least
LMFAO!

Menolo said:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:48:38 -0500, Alric Knebel

[email protected] said:

Life never gets any better for you, does it?

It gets better by the moment, especially with my 1,000,000 reader mark
approaching much sooner than expected.
If you find yourself bored just do a websearch of your sex offender
notice. The results should keep you busy for a few HOURS at least
LMFAO

Well, it hasn't shown up in any of the ten newsgroups I visit. And so
far, no phone calls or drive-bys or all that other kooky [censored] people
like you do, and that you said would happen. Sorry.

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Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

Well, it hasn't shown up in any of the ten newsgroups I visit.

<ahhem> I'd check again... LOL
My gawd, could you be any stupider? I just love it.

Quoted message said:

And so
far, no phone calls or drive-bys or all that other kooky [censored] people
like you do, and that you said would happen. Sorry.

First off, it's a bit soon, second I wouldn't expect you to admit it.

Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

Well, it hasn't shown up in any of the ten newsgroups I visit.

Man-O-man, you gotta be the dumbest dumbass that ever lived. I'd
recheck those if I were you BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

Quoted message said:

Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

Well, it hasn't shown up in any of the ten newsgroups I visit.

<ahhem> I'd check again... LOL
My gawd, could you be any stupider? I just love it.

LOL! Do you think anyone is going to BELIEVE it, you fruit? Clue: NO.
They won't believe it. I'm too well known in any newsgroup I frequent.

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Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

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On Oct 24, 7:46 am, Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Well, it hasn't shown up in any of the ten newsgroups I visit.

Quoted message said:

<ahhem> I'd check again... LOL
My gawd, could you be any stupider? I just love it.

LOL! Do you think anyone is going to BELIEVE it, you fruit? Clue: NO.
They won't believe it. I'm too well known in any newsgroup I frequent.

Of course you are well known there, and that is exactly why they'll
believe it.
Of course EVERYONE will believe yours, with an obviously (and horribly
amaturish attempt at that) pic, and child-like graphics, but hey we
all know that's the best you can do. Besides dumbass, I get responses
to my posts within minutes, you get ZERO since your BF Doug abandoned
you. That leaves me and you reading your stupid posts. I have no
reason to think you are any more popular in other NG's you visit.

Quoted message said:

Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

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On Oct 24, 7:46 am, Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

>Well, it hasn't shown up in any of the ten newsgroups I visit.

Quoted message said:

<ahhem> I'd check again... LOL
My gawd, could you be any stupider? I just love it.

LOL! Do you think anyone is going to BELIEVE it, you fruit? Clue: NO.
They won't believe it. I'm too well known in any newsgroup I frequent.

Of course you are well known there, and that is exactly why they'll
believe it.
Of course EVERYONE will believe yours, with an obviously (and horribly
amaturish attempt at that) pic, and child-like graphics, but hey we
all know that's the best you can do. Besides dumbass, I get responses
to my posts within minutes,

LOL! How long have you been living in Fantasyland? What's the zipcode
there?

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Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

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On Oct 24, 5:33 pm, Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:

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[email hidden] wrote:

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>On Oct 24, 7:46 am, Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:

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>>Well, it hasn't shown up in any of the ten newsgroups I visit.

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><ahhem> I'd check again... LOL
>My gawd, could you be any stupider? I just love it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

LOL! Do you think anyone is going to BELIEVE it, you fruit? Clue: NO.
They won't believe it. I'm too well known in any newsgroup I frequent.

Quoted message said:

Of course you are well known there, and that is exactly why they'll
believe it.
Of course EVERYONE will believe yours, with an obviously (and horribly
amaturish attempt at that) pic, and child-like graphics, but hey we
all know that's the best you can do. Besides dumbass, I get responses
to my posts within minutes,

LOL! How long have you been living in Fantasyland? What's the zipcode
there?

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Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

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>[email hidden] wrote:

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>>On Oct 24, 7:46 am, Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:

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>>>Well, it hasn't shown up in any of the ten newsgroups I visit.

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>><ahhem> I'd check again... LOL
>>My gawd, could you be any stupider? I just love it.

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>LOL! Do you think anyone is going to BELIEVE it, you fruit? Clue: NO.
> They won't believe it. I'm too well known in any newsgroup I frequent.

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Of course you are well known there, and that is exactly why they'll
believe it.
Of course EVERYONE will believe yours, with an obviously (and horribly
amaturish attempt at that) pic, and child-like graphics, but hey we
all know that's the best you can do. Besides dumbass, I get responses
to my posts within minutes,

LOL! How long have you been living in Fantasyland? What's the zipcode
there?

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