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  1. Hi Guys and Gals,

    My fiance is having trouble learning to ride. We've tried everything.
    Tennis court fence, deck railing, holding on to people, etc. The
    problem that she has is that she just can't seem to let herself fall
    forward. She can mount quickly and easily using my car's bike rack and
    she can sit there statically with almost no contact with the rack.
    However, she just can't seem to convince herself to "fall forward" and
    pedal. Any of the aforementioned methods just strengthen her bad
    habits of leaning back, away from the fall.

    We're pretty much out of ideas, but she is still eager to learn. Does
    anybody have any advice/ideas?

    If she could just allow herself to fall forward, I'm sure that she
    could be riding 20+ feet in a couple of hours. She catches onto things
    pretty fast.

    Thanks for your help in advance.

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  2. ...push her?

    It'll sure force her to pedal to catch her balance.

    Remember, its easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission 😉

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  3. In article
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    duckaxe <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : If she could just allow herself to fall forward, I'm sure that she
    : could be riding 20+ feet in a couple of hours. She catches onto things
    : pretty fast.

    Try having her pedal backward instead?

    Maybe if it's a big mental block, have her practice smoothly stepping off the
    unicycle to the front, or even just get out in the middle of a nice soft grassy
    field and deliberately fall off the front a few times to get over it.

    You say using a fence didn't help? Have you tried getting her to claw her way
    along the fence until she's basically up to speed, and get comfortable with the
    basic mechanics of riding that way to make dealing with the falling forward part
    easier?

    More than anything just have her take her time, spend hours getting nowhere,
    rack up the bruises until suddenly somewhere down the line it all clicks into
    place. That's the way most people learned.

    Cheers - Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler 🙂

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  4. Try to get her to step off the front of the unicycle. It would help if
    she could grab the back of the seat with her hand to keep it from
    falling but no big deal. Just get her to move forward without riding if
    you think that is the problem. Also it shows her that she can step off
    of the unicycle without hurting herself.

    When she tries to lean forward and pedal, does she actually fold at the
    abdomen and stick her butt out backwards and her head out forward? This
    gives the rider the sensation that they are leaning forward when
    actually their center of gravity remains directly above the axle. Her
    posture is important when trying to ride. Her back should be straight.
    Then, when she leans she really leans.

    Can't help anymore without seeing her. Anyone else ride in your area?

    P.S. I wouldn't marry you if you couldn't teach me how to ride a
    unicycle. What kind of husband would you be?

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  5. I taught my wife to ride, and one of her "conditions" was that she NEVER
    fall. And I think we met her condition. The key was to ride together
    holding hands. We began with a person on each side of her--holding her
    arms, then gradually had less support. After 10 or 15 hours it was just
    the two of us riding together. We could go for a mile or more. We
    stayed at the hand-holding stage for a good month. After a month we
    began to &&^% %$%(*( (##@ @%, and ^%. Suffice it to say, she rides
    confidently now.

    David

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  6. Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler said:

    Maybe if it's a big mental block, have her practice smoothly stepping
    off the
    unicycle to the front,

    I'm with Tony on this.

    Quoted message said:

    or even just get out in the middle of a nice soft grassy
    field

    But not on this.

    The first thing I always teach beginners is to get on the unicycle,
    then fall off forwards and land on their feet. They have to get into
    the habit of falling off forwards and landing on their feet before they
    start trying to ride. I stress the importance of always falling off
    forwards rather than riding an extra 1/2 revolution. As long as they
    always fall off forwards, they're unlikely to hurt themselves. My kids
    have got the hang of that, and they're not even big enough for me to
    take the wooden blocks off their pedals yet.

    When I started learning, I thought a nice soft grassy field was a good
    idea too. I was soon disabused of that notion. Fields are bumpy. A
    smooth surface is what you want, either a smooth (not carpeted) floor
    or tarmac/concrete.

    I wish I could get my wife to practice more. She can ride about 20
    yards holding my hand, now she really needs to let go. Last time she
    tried to ride was > 2 months ago. I'm buying her a unicycle of her
    own for Christmas, which I hope will help.

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  7. *disabused*(p): freed of a mistaken or misguided notion.

    I learned a new word today! Thanks

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  8. In article
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    m>,
    Danny Colyer <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : When I started learning, I thought a nice soft grassy field was a good
    : idea too. I was soon disabused of that notion. Fields are bumpy. A
    : smooth surface is what you want, either a smooth (not carpeted) floor
    : or tarmac/concrete.

    I didn't mean to ride on the field, that would be quite difficult. Just mount
    the unicycle and fall off a few times, to get over the fear of falling: Hit the
    ground, find you're still in one piece, and realize that it's not so bad.

    The first thing they teach you when you learn Judo isn't how to stay on your
    feet, it's how to fall over.

    Cheers - Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler 🙂

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  9. Find a railing and a nice flat, hard surface. I used a wooden patio
    behind a friend's house. Just have her ride alongside it while trying
    to minimize dependence on the rail.

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  10. She just needs to keep at it.

    It took me over 40 hours over two months to get the basics down, and
    another 40ish hours over two more months before I could ride the 2.5
    miles to my JC campus, and another two months before I could do it at
    night on well lit sidewalks. I still can't freemount 😠 But I had
    an awsome time doing technical MUni yesterday🙂

    I used a long railing (about 4.5 ft high and 85 ft. long) in a smooth
    parking lot at a local school. I was TERRIFIED of falling and decided
    that if I fell w/o holding onto the railing I would likely break
    something (and I probably would have). Through experimentation while
    trying to learn to ride backwards I put on some 150 mm cranks on my
    20". It was easier to ride but the big plus was it reduced my fear of
    falling since I was closer to the ground and going slower.

    I also think practicing falling forward and gracefully dismounting w/
    uni in front would help reduce this fear. It did for me, but I didn't
    practice that untill I could consistently ride the length of the
    railing for a few weeks.

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  11. Thanks a bunch guys. I'm liking the grassy fall idea. Her fear of
    falling overpowers anything and everything that we've tried.

    When I was learning how to freeride a mountain bike, my biggest fear of
    dropping/jumping was crashing. After I crashed a few times and didn't
    die or break bones, my paralyzing fear went away.

    I'll post back with results after I get her to try it.

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  12. I was another slow learner. What helped me was to ride alongside a
    smooth wall, Sliding one hand along the wall as I rode gave me that
    confidence, it was support but adjustable support which I could rely
    on as much or as little as I needed.

    Make sure she knows just how near the ground she actually is. Practice
    "falling off" forwards. It is hard to fall off forwards with any
    seriousness, your feet get in the way of a bad landing.

    Nao

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  13. Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler said:

    I didn't mean to ride on the field, that would be quite difficult. Just
    mount the unicycle and fall off a few times, to get over the fear of
    falling: Hit the ground, find you're still in one piece, and realize
    that it's not so bad.

    The first thing they teach you when you learn Judo isn't how to stay on
    your feet, it's how to fall over.

    I take your point, but from a purely practical point of view I'm
    inclined to disagree.

    In judo you're learning to land safely when being slammed into the
    floor at speed. There are obvious benefits to having a firm mat to
    soften the impact. With unicycling the idea is to always land on your
    feet, and to learn to do that before trying to ride. IMHO even if
    grass ofters a /slightly/ softer landing than tarmac, you need to bear
    in mind that the wheel won't roll as predictably on the grass as you
    fall as it would on tarmac. I think that would offset any advantage.

    (Once you start riding, it can be very helpful to have studied judo or
    aikido beforehand).

    All that said, the OP has told us that he likes the falling off on
    grass idea, and he should know better than I what's likely to work for
    his SO. If, as he tells us, the problem is psychological then the
    expectation of a slightly softer landing on grass ought to help.

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  14. Do you have any grocery carts near where you live? Her riding problems
    seem that they could be helped by riding her uni while holding onto the
    grocery cart handle.

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  15. If her fear of falling is a problem I recommend getting her to practice
    dismounting forward a heap of times until she is confident that falling
    off isn't going to result in a catastrophe.

    Another thing that may help is getting her kitted out in protective
    gear (helmet, gloves, wrist guards, knee pads or leg armour). Although
    this gear is unnecessary it can be a confidence booster as it makes you
    *feel* safer.

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  16. Well if she is nervous or similar. Might i recommend this 'circus bike'
    (http://tinyurl.com/2lf5o) or the 'Qu-Ax Balance Bike.'
    (http://tinyurl.com/tf2e8) Because it might be a fear of failing
    possibly and this may build up her self confidence. Also you can
    dismantle these when she has the strength and belief that she can
    unicycle. 😄

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    Its a wild ride, grabs me by the shoe-lace, and doesn't let go till I do
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  17. I just found a woman who already knew how to ride 😉

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  18. grass does help with confidence but after working with several begginers
    i have become in a habit of walking backwards in front of them letting
    them hold both of my hands. I pull at them slightly in order to make
    them lean foward and explain that they must pedal to keep up

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  19. The thing I liked about using a railing instead of a wall is that if I
    was falling away from it I could pull myself towards the rail, or push
    away, whereas with the wall I could only push away.

    By the way make sure she practices both sides equally, still she may
    end up veering to the left or right, or if she has 'leading arm
    syndrom' 🙄. To counter this do lots of increasingly tighter
    circles on the weak side ( I started w/ diameters of about 50 ft.).

    One on one said:

    Do you have any grocery carts near where you live? Her riding problems
    seem that they could be helped by riding her uni while holding onto the
    grocery cart handle.

    I tried that. Although I didn't have as high as a fear of falling, I
    had to bend over and lean way forward while on my 24" and it was a lot
    harder than just riding.

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  20. When I learned, I rode while holding on to stilts and using them as
    crutches sort of. I then would ride like this, and have my brother
    take one stilt away when I told him to and then the other one -

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