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  1. A new documentary has been produced about the junky quality of school
    lunches and efforts to improve them. Next week the producers of that
    film are trying to coordinate a national 'eat lunch at your kid's
    school' day to motivate folks to join efforts to improve school food.
    As far as I can tell, the "moms" involved have no particular diets or
    fads at issue here, just sensible basic nutrition and anti-junk
    positions. Those interested in the film or the school lunch day might
    check out the website:
    http://www.angrymoms.org/

    I have no kids in school any more nor any connection with this film
    but I've seen school food threads here in the past so thought some
    might be interested. -aem

  2. One time on Usenet said:

    A new documentary has been produced about the junky quality of school
    lunches and efforts to improve them. Next week the producers of that
    film are trying to coordinate a national 'eat lunch at your kid's
    school' day to motivate folks to join efforts to improve school food.

    I think it's a shame that they need to encourage parents to eat lunch
    at school. I usually so that with Buddy 4-5 times per year. Going to
    lunch with small kids makes you feel very tall.

    Quoted message said:

    As far as I can tell, the "moms" involved have no particular diets or
    fads at issue here, just sensible basic nutrition and anti-junk
    positions. Those interested in the film or the school lunch day might
    check out the website:
    http://www.angrymoms.org/

    It's not a bad idea, just sorry it takes a "movement" to get parents
    interested in this.

    Quoted message said:

    I have no kids in school any more nor any connection with this film
    but I've seen school food threads here in the past so thought some
    might be interested. -aem

    One thing I like about Buddy's school is their "5-Star Smart
    Bar", which has unlimited fresh veggies and fresh/canned fruits.
    Some days Buddy has no interest in the "lunch" (he hates chicken
    nuggets), and just loads up at the "Smart Bar"...

    --
    Jani in WA

  3. "Little Malice" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    One time on Usenet said:

    A new documentary has been produced about the junky quality of school
    lunches and efforts to improve them. Next week the producers of that
    film are trying to coordinate a national 'eat lunch at your kid's
    school' day to motivate folks to join efforts to improve school food.

    I think it's a shame that they need to encourage parents to eat lunch
    at school. I usually so that with Buddy 4-5 times per year. Going to
    lunch with small kids makes you feel very tall.

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As far as I can tell, the "moms" involved have no particular diets or
    fads at issue here, just sensible basic nutrition and anti-junk
    positions. Those interested in the film or the school lunch day might
    check out the website:
    http://www.angrymoms.org/

    It's not a bad idea, just sorry it takes a "movement" to get parents
    interested in this.

    Are children allowed to bring their lunch to school any more?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have no kids in school any more nor any connection with this film
    but I've seen school food threads here in the past so thought some
    might be interested.

    I found both Jamie Oliver's and Shaquille O'Neill's (sp) shows
    on this subject very interesting. The schools operate on a very
    low budget when it comes to buying food.

    Quoted message said:

    One thing I like about Buddy's school is their "5-Star Smart
    Bar", which has unlimited fresh veggies and fresh/canned fruits.
    Some days Buddy has no interest in the "lunch" (he hates chicken
    nuggets), and just loads up at the "Smart Bar"...

    That's great. You know a lot of kids just get the chicken nuggets
    and fries.

    nancy

  4. "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think it's a shame that they need to encourage parents to eat lunch
    at school. I usually so that with Buddy 4-5 times per year. Going to
    lunch with small kids makes you feel very tall.

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    My wife did that when she used to be at school as a volunteer. It was just
    a place to eat back then, not a function encouraged, but not forbidden
    either.

    Quoted message said:


    Are children allowed to bring their lunch to school any more?

    Yes, but many parents find it easier to give the kids the $2.43 a day for
    them to eat the school food and it relieves them of another responsibity and
    chore. Around here, Boar's Head has been advertising that brown bagging is
    back in style. They make a good point that you know what your kid is
    getting. OTOH, many schools have banned peanut butter, that staple of the
    lunch bag.
    --
    Ed
    http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

  5. aem said:

    A new documentary has been produced about the junky quality of school
    lunches and efforts to improve them. Next week the producers of that
    film are trying to coordinate a national 'eat lunch at your kid's
    school' day to motivate folks to join efforts to improve school food.
    As far as I can tell, the "moms" involved have no particular diets or
    fads at issue here, just sensible basic nutrition and anti-junk
    positions. Those interested in the film or the school lunch day might
    check out the website:
    http://www.angrymoms.org/

    I have no kids in school any more nor any connection with this film
    but I've seen school food threads here in the past so thought some
    might be interested. -aem


    I've eaten lunch with kidlet at times at elementary school and it is
    always an experience. I love those days. I would like to see more of the
    cooked food that I grew up with instead of the "pizza, burgers,
    chicken nugget" type meals schools seem to do now. In the film
    "Supersize Me" the host highlighted some schools that do a turn-around
    to make lunches healthier and I would love to see that more common.
    Jaime Oliver has pushed for this in the UK also.

  6. "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think it's a shame that they need to encourage parents to eat lunch
    at school. I usually so that with Buddy 4-5 times per year. Going to
    lunch with small kids makes you feel very tall.

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    My wife did that when she used to be at school as a volunteer.

    Sure, I could see if she's working there.

    Quoted message said:

    It was just a place to eat back then, not a function encouraged, but not
    forbidden either.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Are children allowed to bring their lunch to school any more?

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, but many parents find it easier to give the kids the $2.43 a day for
    them to eat the school food and it relieves them of another responsibity
    and chore. Around here, Boar's Head has been advertising that brown
    bagging is back in style. They make a good point that you know what your
    kid is getting.

    I was trying to get a handle on the deal with the two mad moms,
    are they stuck with having their children eat cafeteria food?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing or saying that something
    shouldn't be done with school cafeteria food, not at all. Not
    having children I wasn't sure what the deal was with bringing
    lunch to school.

    nancy

  7. On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:49:44 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Little Malice" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    One time on Usenet said:

    A new documentary has been produced about the junky quality of school
    lunches and efforts to improve them. Next week the producers of that
    film are trying to coordinate a national 'eat lunch at your kid's
    school' day to motivate folks to join efforts to improve school food.

    I think it's a shame that they need to encourage parents to eat lunch
    at school. I usually so that with Buddy 4-5 times per year. Going to
    lunch with small kids makes you feel very tall.

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    I don't know how common it is, or whether it's a regional thing, but
    our local elementary school actively encourages parents to come for
    lunch. One or the other or both of us go a couple of times a month,
    schedules permitting. The kidlet loves it because we bring a picnic
    lunch or take out and she doesn't have to eat school food that day;
    but they do allow parents to purchase a lunch from the cafeteria, if
    they prefer.

    Regards,
    Tracy R.

  8. "Tracy R." <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:49:44 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    I don't know how common it is, or whether it's a regional thing, but
    our local elementary school actively encourages parents to come for
    lunch. One or the other or both of us go a couple of times a month,
    schedules permitting. The kidlet loves it because we bring a picnic
    lunch or take out and she doesn't have to eat school food that day;
    but they do allow parents to purchase a lunch from the cafeteria, if
    they prefer.

    I understand! I didn't get that they would buy it. Thanks.

    nancy

  9. Little Malice said:

    I think it's a shame that they need to encourage parents to eat lunch
    at school. I usually so that with Buddy 4-5 times per year. Going to
    lunch with small kids makes you feel very tall.


    Don't you just want to "help" all those little kindergarten cherubs
    carry their big trays. They all look about 2 seconds from disaster, yet
    precious and so "grown up" carrying their lunch trays to the table. I
    just hold my breath.
    Once a little boy dropped his tray and he just bawled.. broke my heart!

  10. Nancy Young said:

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    Our elementary schools encourage it. Parents can eat with their child
    one day a week, and they are always holding special "Grandparents Day"
    or "Dad's/Mom's Day" events. Parents and kids can either bring their
    lunches to share or buy the school cooked meals. But the cost for the
    visiting parent meal is a higher cost than the student meal.
    When I go to the schools, I always feel a bit sorry for the kids whose
    parents never seem to come 🙁

  11. "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    Our elementary schools encourage it. Parents can eat with their child one
    day a week, and they are always holding special "Grandparents Day" or
    "Dad's/Mom's Day" events. Parents and kids can either bring their lunches
    to share or buy the school cooked meals.

    Cool! I'm sure there was nothing like that when I was a kid,
    you didn't see parents in the cafeteria. Of course, that was
    ages ago.

    Quoted message said:

    But the cost for the visiting parent meal is a higher cost than the
    student meal.
    When I go to the schools, I always feel a bit sorry for the kids whose
    parents never seem to come 🙁

    It's tough, some parents aren't interested in it and others just
    can't take a day off whenever the school decides to have bring
    mom to school day.

    nancy

  12. "Tracy R." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:49:44 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Little Malice" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    One time on Usenet, aem <[email hidden]> said:

    > A new documentary has been produced about the junky quality of school
    > lunches and efforts to improve them. Next week the producers of that
    > film are trying to coordinate a national 'eat lunch at your kid's
    > school' day to motivate folks to join efforts to improve school food.

    I think it's a shame that they need to encourage parents to eat lunch
    at school. I usually so that with Buddy 4-5 times per year. Going to
    lunch with small kids makes you feel very tall.

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    I don't know how common it is, or whether it's a regional thing, but
    our local elementary school actively encourages parents to come for
    lunch. One or the other or both of us go a couple of times a month,
    schedules permitting. The kidlet loves it because we bring a picnic
    lunch or take out and she doesn't have to eat school food that day;
    but they do allow parents to purchase a lunch from the cafeteria, if
    they prefer.

    I used to do that too but the schools in this district don't allow fast food
    to be carried in. I also had a tradition of taking Rachel's class pizza for
    lunch on her birthday, but that is nixed here too. Doesn't make any sense
    but they don't want the other children to feel left out. Makes no sense to
    me since if someone at your table brought a marvelous brown bag lunch and
    didn't share it with everyone else, then the children are still not eating
    the same thing.

    Alas, I guess rules are so popular now thay had to make sure that everything
    is as politically correct as possible.

    Cindi

    Quoted message said:


    Regards,
    Tracy R.

  13. Cindi - HappyMamatoThree said:


    "Tracy R." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:49:44 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Little Malice" <[email hidden]> wrote

    > One time on Usenet, aem <[email hidden]> said:
    >
    >> A new documentary has been produced about the junky quality of school
    >> lunches and efforts to improve them. Next week the producers of that
    >> film are trying to coordinate a national 'eat lunch at your kid's
    >> school' day to motivate folks to join efforts to improve school food.
    >
    > I think it's a shame that they need to encourage parents to eat lunch
    > at school. I usually so that with Buddy 4-5 times per year. Going to
    > lunch with small kids makes you feel very tall.

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    I don't know how common it is, or whether it's a regional thing, but
    our local elementary school actively encourages parents to come for
    lunch. One or the other or both of us go a couple of times a month,
    schedules permitting. The kidlet loves it because we bring a picnic
    lunch or take out and she doesn't have to eat school food that day;
    but they do allow parents to purchase a lunch from the cafeteria, if
    they prefer.

    I used to do that too but the schools in this district don't allow fast food
    to be carried in. I also had a tradition of taking Rachel's class pizza for
    lunch on her birthday, but that is nixed here too. Doesn't make any sense
    but they don't want the other children to feel left out. Makes no sense to
    me since if someone at your table brought a marvelous brown bag lunch and
    didn't share it with everyone else, then the children are still not eating
    the same thing.

    Alas, I guess rules are so popular now thay had to make sure that everything
    is as politically correct as possible.

    Tell me about it. At Robyn's school, they even have assigned lunch
    seats. Everybody sits with their own class in the seat their teacher
    picked for them. They're discouraged from chatting. <sighs> It's not
    at all the way school was when I was a kid; we had a lot more freedom
    to make choices. At lunch we could sit with anyone: our younger or
    older siblings, the neighbor kid, a friend from the previous year who
    got put in a different homeroom. I sometimes wonder how these kids are
    going to cope when they get out in the "real" world and actually have
    to make decisions for themselves. I also question how much
    socialization they are actually getting from the experience,
    considering how structured their days are, and how narrow and
    homogenous a group of kids they are exposed to on a day to day basis.
    Add that in with the fact that the academic standards have slipped so
    badly, and well, it really makes me long for the old days...

    Regards,
    Tracy R.


  14. Quoted message said:

    Add that in with the fact that the academic standards have slipped so
    badly, and well, it really makes me long for the old days...

    Me too! We were eating supper last night which was homemade vegetable beef
    soup and peanut butter sandwiches. I told the kidlets that that had been my
    favorite lunch when I was in school and neither one of them have ever even
    had it for school lunch. I know PButter is out. But dang they are taking the
    fun out of what it meant to be a kid in school. My missle schoolers sit
    wherever they want but the 2nd grader has an assigned table. The have to sit
    with their class but can sit in different seats.

    Amazing the rules now

    Cindi

    Quoted message said:


    Regards,
    Tracy R.

  15. Nancy Young said:


    Quoted message said:


    Cool! I'm sure there was nothing like that when I was a kid,
    you didn't see parents in the cafeteria. Of course, that was
    ages ago.

    Cafetaeria???

    We had a lunch room (in the basement) for those who brought a lunch to
    school. Most of us went home for lunch. When I started high school there
    was a cafeteria but I don't remember anything about the food because I
    always brown bagged it. we moved to another city a few months later. The
    "cafeteria" was a row of machines that sold chocolate bars, milk, soft
    drinks and an assortment of scrawny sandwiches and various pastries.

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Nancy Young said:

    "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    Our elementary schools encourage it. Parents can eat with their child one
    day a week, and they are always holding special "Grandparents Day" or
    "Dad's/Mom's Day" events. Parents and kids can either bring their lunches
    to share or buy the school cooked meals.

    Cool! I'm sure there was nothing like that when I was a kid,
    you didn't see parents in the cafeteria. Of course, that was
    ages ago.

    Quoted message said:

    But the cost for the visiting parent meal is a higher cost than the
    student meal.
    When I go to the schools, I always feel a bit sorry for the kids whose
    parents never seem to come 🙁

    It's tough, some parents aren't interested in it and others just
    can't take a day off whenever the school decides to have bring
    mom to school day.

    This thread brings back fond memories!

    I was born in 1961 and from kindergarten through the sixth grade, my
    lunches were eaten at home because it was only a five minute walk from
    school. My entire school career, including college was in Philadelphia.

    I never set foot in the school's cafeteria for lunch when I was in
    elementary school, except on special occasions such as holiday parties.
    Every day, I would sit at our kitchen table and eat lunch. For some
    reason, my sister always ate lunch at school even though we went to the
    same school, so it was just me and my mom. My dad was always at work
    during lunch. My mom would serve me lunch and sit and ask me how my day
    was going. It was the same thing every day. If I ate fast, I might have
    time to watch a little TV before walking back to school.

    One or two days a year, the school would host a family lunch where each
    kid had to order his food a few days in advance. Parents and teachers
    would join us for lunch. Lunch was always hot dogs, Philly soft
    pretzels, and those little cardboard half pint cartons of milk or
    chocolate milk.

    I had to bring home an order form for my parents to sign to indicate the
    number of hot dogs, cartons of milk, and soft pretzels I wanted. My
    parents had to enclose a check or cash to pay. The lunch was very cheap,
    even in those days. I always ordered three hot dogs, one pretzel, and
    two chocolate milks. Soda was never an option, nor was any kind of juice.

    My mom is a kind and sweet person, but she was never much for cooking.
    The lunches I ate at home were not healthy. One of my favorite lunches
    was a bowl of piping hot Campbell's tomato soup and a Kosher salami
    sandwich on rye with a bit of yellow mustard. Sometimes, my mom would
    give me left overs from the previous night's dinner, but mostly, mom
    served me one of those Swanson TV dinners that came in an aluminum tray,
    or she made me a small frozen pizza, or fish sticks with tomato soup.

    I went to a Woodrow Wilson Junior High for grades 7, 8, and 9, which was
    about a mile from home. I walked to and from school most days, but it
    was too far to eat lunch at home. When I got to high school, I went to
    Northeast High School and I had to walk a few blocks further from home
    to get there. So from the 7th to 12th grades, I ate lunch at school.

    The cafeteria in Wilson schools served mostly junk food. The closest
    thing to a healthy menu item was apples. Each day of the week was a
    different main course. For example, I think Monday was cheeseburger and
    french fries day, Thursday was shepherd's pie day, and I am pretty sure
    Friday was French bread pizza day. One day a week was chicken nuggets
    and fries day.

    When I got to Northeast High School, the cafeteria had a featured menu
    item too each day, but there were other choices. Some were healthy (such
    as a green salad), but the featured items were the same junk food as in
    Wilson Jr. High. There was a Burger King across the street, where many
    of my classmates would eat lunch, even though it was against the rules
    to leave school property for lunch. There was also a pizza place and a
    convenience store. I don't think I ever want to the pizza place or
    Burger King for lunch, but I did go to the store once in a while. A lot
    of kids would get their lunches from the pizza place or BK and just
    bring their food back to the cafeteria to eat.

    All through school, I had a great paying job on weekends working for my
    dad, so that was much lunch money most days. Once in a wile, I would
    bring a sandwich from home, but that was unusual.

  17. aem said:


    A new documentary has been produced about the junky quality of school
    lunches and efforts to improve them. Next week the producers of that
    film are trying to coordinate a national 'eat lunch at your kid's
    school' day to motivate folks to join efforts to improve school food.
    As far as I can tell, the "moms" involved have no particular diets or
    fads at issue here, just sensible basic nutrition and anti-junk
    positions. Those interested in the film or the school lunch day might
    check out the website:
    http://www.angrymoms.org/

    I have no kids in school any more nor any connection with this film
    but I've seen school food threads here in the past so thought some
    might be interested. -aem

    That's good! When I was teaching I often ate the school cafeteria food.
    They have low budgets but seems as though they could do better.

    The morning news programmes locally list the APS school lunches for the
    day. They try to balance the nutrition but some of the meals are
    appalling! Still high-fat/high-salt and pizza appears nearly every week
    or 10 days. Have yet to see fish on the menu; yet fish fingers/fish
    sticks appeared regularly on London school menus so it can be done large
    scale.

  18. On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:27:10 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Tracy R." <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:49:44 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    They let the parents eat at the cafeteria? That surprises me.

    I don't know how common it is, or whether it's a regional thing, but
    our local elementary school actively encourages parents to come for
    lunch. One or the other or both of us go a couple of times a month,
    schedules permitting. The kidlet loves it because we bring a picnic
    lunch or take out and she doesn't have to eat school food that day;
    but they do allow parents to purchase a lunch from the cafeteria, if
    they prefer.

    I understand! I didn't get that they would buy it. Thanks.

    nancy


    Our lunches have to be ordered in advance. No drop ins.

    --
    See return address to reply by email

  19. Cindi - HappyMamatoThree said:


    I used to do that too but the schools in this district don't allow fast food
    to be carried in. I also had a tradition of taking Rachel's class pizza for
    lunch on her birthday, but that is nixed here too. Doesn't make any sense
    but they don't want the other children to feel left out. Makes no sense to
    me since if someone at your table brought a marvelous brown bag lunch and
    didn't share it with everyone else, then the children are still not eating
    the same thing.

    Alas, I guess rules are so popular now thay had to make sure that everything
    is as politically correct as possible.

    Political correctness cr*p, AFAIC. While I've never seen pizza served
    to one class exclusively at lunch, but maybe your DD's teacher
    wouldn't mind keeping them in the classroom for the occasion?

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  20. On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:25:22 -0500, Tracy R. <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Tell me about it. At Robyn's school, they even have assigned lunch
    seats. Everybody sits with their own class in the seat their teacher
    picked for them. They're discouraged from chatting.

    Well, that certainly cuts down on the noisy cafeteria syndrom.

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