"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant without all that spam and other assorted [censored]. Unfortunately, I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss, so I deleted the rule.
It isn't gmail that's the problem, it's posts coming from Google Groups, whose users may or may not use [email hidden] as their addy. So, how does one killfile all posts from Google Groups, and leave those posting with a gmail address through Outlook Express or another real newsreader?
"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant without all that spam and other assorted [censored]. Unfortunately, I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss, so I deleted the rule.
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You're not the only one who no longer accepts NG messages from any gmail account. I run a couple of readers so looked at this NG from a different service than I usually use. I quick perusal makes it look like postings from Maxine in ri, Litte Malice and Damsel are getting blocked as well as Omlet. A simple munging of from account name will clear-up the problem.
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You think a cooking NG is over-run with gmail trolls and spam? Go look at any active sports NG - especially the forums for NFL teams that have or
are
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going to play the NE Patriots.
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Not to mention the HUGE amount of Google - sourced Usenet spam emanating primarily from China, India, and Pakistan. Some of it is commercial (Nike...), some of it is moozlim propaganda [censored]...
Whenever I see Islamospam, I post back with really offensive stuff, accusing the Prophet's wives of all kind of cuckolding and perversion.
You need to kill the Googlegroups domain, not the gmail email addresses. Not everyone who posts through Google Groups posts with a Gmail address, and not everyone who uses a Gmail email address posts through Google Groups.
ALl you're doing is killfiling people who have a gmail address, which is not the problem. The problem is people who post through Google Groups.
Unfortunately your newsreader does not allow you to kikllfile based on Message-ID - which is the header that absolutely identifies Google Groups posters (and the spam). If you had a better newsreader, you would also be able to "whitelist" those regular/useful posters who posts through Google Groups.
ObFood: Eggs over medium on toasted NYTimes no-kneed bread.
You need to kill the Googlegroups domain, not the gmail email addresses. Not everyone who posts through Google Groups posts with a Gmail address, and not everyone who uses a Gmail email address posts through Google Groups.
Actually, it worked just fine for my purposes. I don't have any complaints in that regard.
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identifies Google Groups posters (and the spam). If you had a better newsreader, you would also be able to "whitelist" those regular/useful posters who posts through Google Groups.
And apparently I can do that.
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ObFood: Eggs over medium on toasted NYTimes no-kneed bread.
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I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant without all that spam and other assorted [censored]. Unfortunately, I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss, so I deleted the rule.
I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same? This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
nancy
Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains? It seems odd to expect others to change the way they post for your convenience.
I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant without all that spam and other assorted [censored]. Unfortunately, I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss, so I deleted the rule.
I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.
Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same? This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?
Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.
Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains? It seems odd to expect others to change the way they post for your convenience.
Please point out where I said I expect anyone to do anything?
Or is it just your usual wish to see the worst in everyone speaking?
You need to kill the Googlegroups domain, not the gmail email addresses. Not everyone who posts through Google Groups posts with a Gmail address, and not everyone who uses a Gmail email address posts through Google Groups.
Actually, it worked just fine for my purposes. I don't have any complaints in that regard.
I just spot-checked the spam, crosspostings, and forgeries and my way you kill 40% more of the trash.
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identifies Google Groups posters (and the spam). If you had a better newsreader, you would also be able to "whitelist" those regular/useful posters who posts through Google Groups.
And apparently I can do that.
There is no way to whitelist people who would otherwise be killfiled in OE.
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:09:09 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
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identifies Google Groups posters (and the spam). If you had a better newsreader, you would also be able to "whitelist" those regular/useful posters who posts through Google Groups.
And apparently I can do that.
There is no way to whitelist people who would otherwise be killfiled in OE.
I have no problem at all doing this with Agent. I can selectively killfile, or selectively read whoever I want, no matter what domain it is, and no matter if I have killfiled the rest of the domain.
You have a newer version of Agent than I do. If you think mine could do that, I need a quick lesson on domain killing one of these days (in chat). Currently, the worst spammers (IMO)are those that follow Steve Krammer around, so if they don't migrate their domains maybe I could kill them that way. All the other pipsqueaks are just a right click away from never never land. IMO: It's very satisfying to plonk them into the Bozo Bin.
"Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email hidden]...
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"Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote
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You need to kill the Googlegroups domain, not the gmail email addresses. Not everyone who posts through Google Groups posts with a Gmail address, and not everyone who uses a Gmail email address posts through Google Groups.
Actually, it worked just fine for my purposes. I don't have any complaints in that regard.
I just spot-checked the spam, crosspostings, and forgeries and my way you kill 40% more of the trash.
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identifies Google Groups posters (and the spam). If you had a better newsreader, you would also be able to "whitelist" those regular/useful posters who posts through Google Groups.
And apparently I can do that.
There is no way to whitelist people who would otherwise be killfiled in OE.
Of course there is. Just create a rule in which you enter the adresses of the people you want to read. Specify "Execute no other rules". Now move that rule to the top of the list.
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:54:59 -0400, George <[email hidden]>
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My buddy finds out that you can only submit a request via a webform. He does and gets a canned response of "thank you for contacting megacorp and we may actually look at this some day. After numerous retires he spent the afternoon on the phone trying to actually talk to someone at Google. After a lot of work he actually got someone who insisted that even though it was Google's error and there was no basis for the incorrect entry he would need to prove his information. He submitted the information almost a year ago and the listed information is still incorrect. He has not been able to contact anyone who knows anything and just gets dumped into various peoples voicemail who never call back.
Tell me more. Is this incorrect address found on a simple google search or is this an adwords problem? I may be able to find an answer for him.
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:54:59 -0400, George <[email hidden]>
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My buddy finds out that you can only submit a request via a webform. He does and gets a canned response of "thank you for contacting megacorp and we may actually look at this some day. After numerous retires he spent the afternoon on the phone trying to actually talk to someone at Google. After a lot of work he actually got someone who insisted that even though it was Google's error and there was no basis for the incorrect entry he would need to prove his information. He submitted the information almost a year ago and the listed information is still incorrect. He has not been able to contact anyone who knows anything and just gets dumped into various peoples voicemail who never call back.
Tell me more. Is this incorrect address found on a simple google search or is this an adwords problem? I may be able to find an answer for him.
There is no way to whitelist people who would otherwise be killfiled in OE.
Really? Have you read James Silverton's post?
OK. I didn't know that.
But OE still doesn't allow you killfile based on Message-ID, which is what really needs to happen here - rather than having ask people to change the way they display their email address (Victor, especially, would have a fit over this).
There is no way to whitelist people who would otherwise be killfiled in OE.
Really? Have you read James Silverton's post?
OK. I didn't know that.
But OE still doesn't allow you killfile based on Message-ID, which is what really needs to happen here - rather than having ask people to change the way they display their email address (Victor, especially, would have a fit over this).
Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains?
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I'll answer that.
Gmail is an absolute latrine and the decent people who want to use it should be aware of the fact that they posting from a sewer. In a ten-day period (before I kill-filled the entire domain) on the NFL newsgroups during the Michael Vick criminal case and plea-agreement I added about 75 new nyms to my killfile. These were the most virulant, block-headed racist-posters imaginable - and close to 60 of them were pseudonyms from the gmail domain. I simply gave-up on kill-filing them individually because these trolls were changing their 'nyms and sock-puppets too quickly to keep-up. Especially when some were seemingly changing their 'nic on an hourly basis in order to continue to spew their race-baiting bile.
Precisely. I was Block Sender-ing people every day, by the next day they were someone else. Making rules deleting anything mentioning sneakers/etc, helped a bit.
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But kill-filing the entire domain got rid of the VAST majority of the evilness.
It works for me. I don't expect perfection.
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And it certainly made it easier to read about american football when I didn't have to deal with morons yelling 'kill all [censored]... [censored] are just animals... [censored]... [censored].... [censored]' for post after post after post.
Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains?
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I'll answer that.
Gmail is an absolute latrine and the decent people who want to use it should be aware of the fact that they posting from a sewer. In a ten-day period (before I kill-filled the entire domain) on the NFL newsgroups during the Michael Vick criminal case and plea-agreement I added about 75 new nyms to my killfile. These were the most virulant, block-headed racist-posters imaginable - and close to 60 of them were pseudonyms from the gmail domain. I simply gave-up on kill-filing them individually because these trolls were changing their 'nyms and sock-puppets too quickly to keep-up. Especially when some were seemingly changing their 'nic on an hourly basis in order to continue to spew their race-baiting bile.
Precisely. I was Block Sender-ing people every day, by the next day they were someone else. Making rules deleting anything mentioning sneakers/etc, helped a bit.
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But kill-filing the entire domain got rid of the VAST majority of the evilness.
It works for me. I don't expect perfection.
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And it certainly made it easier to read about american football when I didn't have to deal with morons yelling 'kill all [censored]... [censored] are just animals... [censored]... [censored].... [censored]' for post after post after post.
Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains?
Because then you'd be killfiling spammers dozens of times every day. Spammers don't always use the same email address.
BTW: She's not kilfiling new articles from particular domians, only people that happen to advertise certain domains in their email address. Which a bunch of people don't quite understand.
Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains?
Because then you'd be killfiling spammers dozens of times every day. Spammers don't always use the same email address.
BTW: She's not kilfiling new articles from particular domians, only people that happen to advertise certain domains in their email address. Which a bunch of people don't quite understand.
