A proposition

MJB said:

"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"MJB" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

And it certainly made it easier to read about american football
when I didn't have to deal with morons yelling 'kill all [censored]...
[censored] are just animals... [censored]... [censored].... [censored]' for post
after post after post.

That must have been awful.

Not really. I'm a grown-up. It was just annoying and time-consuming
to have to wade through the nonsense filling-up the football
newsgroups.
But I'm much better now.

<grin>

MJB

That is illegal in UK and the perpertrators would end up in prison as indeed
they ought!!!!

ChattyCathy said:

I thought your newsreader could killfile anything posted from giggle
groups domain... and yet you reply to aem's post?

I have my newsreader set to mark everything from Google as
already read. This prevents me from seeing all the obvious spam,
at least until somebody responds to it, bringing the entire
thread into view. It also keeps from having to maintain a
whitelist since I'll still the Google posters in a normal thread
(although marked as read - where I can choose to retrieve the
article if I care).

Quoted message said:

Oh, wait, you must have him 'white listed'. My apologies.

Him? I always thought it was a she <shrug>.

-sw

Sqwertz said:

ChattyCathy said:

I thought your newsreader could killfile anything posted from giggle
groups domain... and yet you reply to aem's post?

I have my newsreader set to mark everything from Google as
already read. This prevents me from seeing all the obvious spam,
at least until somebody responds to it, bringing the entire
thread into view. It also keeps from having to maintain a
whitelist since I'll still the Google posters in a normal thread
(although marked as read - where I can choose to retrieve the
article if I care).

Quoted message said:

Oh, wait, you must have him 'white listed'. My apologies.

Him? I always thought it was a she <shrug>.

Well, I was told by a member of The Cabal (TINC) that it was a "he" <shrug>

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Nancy Young said:

"Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Nancy Young said:

"Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote

> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:01:31 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote

>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:25:11 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please point out where I said I expect anyone to do anything?
>>>
>>> "Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
>>> This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?"
>>
>> Asking and expecting are far different things.
>
> That's picking nits.

*Absolutely Not* ... because I do not expect anyone to change
their address just because I asked. You are putting expectations
on me that were never in my mind.

If you didn't expect [some of] them to abide, then why did you
ask? You must have expected some to change their email addresses
otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

I see that you are familiar with what nitpicking is.

No, it's just called simple logic.

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I didn't know you two were palsy walsy.

I'm sorry you feel as if we're ganging up on you. But as happens
all the time on newsgroups, when one person says something to
another (no matter how ridiculous, or not) other people tend to
jump in.

Quoted message said:

You cannot put me in a bad mood. I'm going to visit
my brother's brand new twins this afternoon.

I'm just being me. No need to get down about it. Here: have a
virtual bear claw.

-sw

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That is illegal in UK and the perpertrators would end up in prison as
indeed they ought!!!!

Nah - I believe in an absolute freedom of speech. The damn fools of the
world should be free to say whatever ridiculous, unreasonable, inflammatory
things they want. But giving them freedom of speech does not mean the
goddamn fools of the world have an equivalent freedom to be heard.

MJB

MJB said:

"Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

That is illegal in UK and the perpertrators would end up in prison as
indeed they ought!!!!

Nah - I believe in an absolute freedom of speech. The damn fools of
the world should be free to say whatever ridiculous, unreasonable,
inflammatory things they want. But giving them freedom of speech
does not mean the goddamn fools of the world have an equivalent freedom to
be heard.
MJB

It is the law here so there is no choice!

"Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Peter A said:

Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains?

Because then you'd be killfiling spammers dozens of times every
day. Spammers don't always use the same email address.

BTW: She's not kilfiling new articles from particular domians,
only people that happen to advertise certain domains in their
email address. Which a bunch of people don't quite understand.

-sw

Which is why killfiling everyone who uses gmail in their email addy would do
absolutely nothing to reduce the spam and offensive articles I usually see,
and the infestation in group is quite mild compared to some others!

Spammers post via googlegroups, but they use something else in their email
addy, like yahoo, aol ,hotmail, or something they make up. There are ways of
killing domains, I looked into it briefly but don't have the time to fiddle
with it now.

"Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

MJB said:

Nah - I believe in an absolute freedom of speech. The damn fools of
the world should be free to say whatever ridiculous, unreasonable,
inflammatory things they want. But giving them freedom of speech
does not mean the goddamn fools of the world have an equivalent freedom
to be heard.
MJB

It is the law here so there is no choice!

Well, in the USA there is this little document called the 'Bill of Rights'
that the UK lacks.... as well as the right to go sleeveless.

MJB

MJB said:

"Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

MJB said:

Nah - I believe in an absolute freedom of speech. The damn fools of
the world should be free to say whatever ridiculous, unreasonable,
inflammatory things they want. But giving them freedom of speech
does not mean the goddamn fools of the world have an equivalent
freedom to be heard.
MJB

It is the law here so there is no choice!

Well, in the USA there is this little document called the 'Bill of
Rights' that the UK lacks.... as well as the right to go sleeveless.

Sleeveless??? <G>

We have no rights any more. Our 'government' gives all our sovereignty to
the EU 🙁(( you may say, well vote someone else in? No difference. They
all do it. This country is going to hell in a handcart🙁

"Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It is the law here so there is no choice!

Well, in the USA there is this little document called the 'Bill of
Rights' that the UK lacks.... as well as the right to go sleeveless.

Sleeveless??? <G>

'keep and bare arms'.

Quoted message said:

We have no rights any more. Our 'government' gives all our sovereignty to
the EU 🙁(( you may say, well vote someone else in? No difference. They
all do it. This country is going to hell in a handcart🙁

I'm just a mar-kin, so can't comment.

MJB

dejablues said:

Spammers post via googlegroups, but they use something else in their email
addy, like yahoo, aol ,hotmail, or something they make up. There are ways of
killing domains, I looked into it briefly but don't have the time to fiddle
with it now.

Finally - somebody I can relate to ;-)

nfilter/NewsProxy is an add-on that would work for OE, but it's
really only for techies, not for the casual OE user.

-sw

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:22:20 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
without all that spam and other assorted [censored]. Unfortunately,
I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
so I deleted the rule.

I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.

Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?

Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.

nancy

Not sure if you're seeing me or not, but I'm not going to mung my
gmail address because I've done before and it doesn't work for me (I'm
comfortable with it). I wanted to separate my usenet email from the
rest anyway, so spam catching was a good enough excuse. Now I know
the real harvesters from the bot method guessers and I know who is
selling my email address.

I've never understood why people put their email address in their
author line (or why they use their real names there). Just because
the email client tells you to do it doesn't mean you have to. I have
to chage my settings to send a personal reply email, but I don't do
that so often it's a problem for me.

Oddly enough, since I switched over to the unmunged gmail address, I
rarely get spam in my inbox. In fact, the track record is good enough
that I forward my usenet account to my regular address! If I ever get
a flood of spam, I'll just change the setting to not forward email
again.

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MJB said:

But kill-filing the entire domain got rid of the VAST majority of the
evilness. And it certainly made it easier to read about american football
when I didn't have to deal with morons yelling 'kill all [censored]... [censored]
are just animals... [censored]... [censored].... [censored]' for post after post after
post.

<sigh>

That's why I kill-fill gmail. Bad, stupid people take advantage of the free
service to post their bad, stupid ideas. And I haven't missed a bit of it.

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MJB said:

But kill-filing the entire domain got rid of the VAST majority of the
evilness. And it certainly made it easier to read about american football
when I didn't have to deal with morons yelling 'kill all [censored]... [censored]
are just animals... [censored]... [censored].... [censored]' for post after post after
post.

<sigh>

That's why I kill-fill gmail. Bad, stupid people take advantage of the free
service to post their bad, stupid ideas. And I haven't missed a bit of it.

Just in case you haven't noticed, this isn't a sports group.

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:58:37 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Precisely. I was Block Sender-ing people every day, by the next
day they were someone else. Making rules deleting anything mentioning
sneakers/etc, helped a bit.

Oh, for god's sake Nancy. In the thread like the Michael Vick one,
you should have just blocked the subject. For other spam, you can
pick key words to block.

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MJB said:

"Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> It is the law here so there is no choice!

Well, in the USA there is this little document called the 'Bill of
Rights' that the UK lacks.... as well as the right to go sleeveless.

Sleeveless??? <G>

'keep and bare arms'.

LOL

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

We have no rights any more. Our 'government' gives all our
sovereignty to the EU 🙁(( you may say, well vote someone else in? No
difference. They all do it. This country is going to hell in a
handcart🙁

I'm just a mar-kin, so can't comment.

Be thankful you are at least allowed to keep and bare arms🙂

"Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

dejablues said:

Spammers post via googlegroups, but they use something else in their
email
addy, like yahoo, aol ,hotmail, or something they make up. There are ways
of
killing domains, I looked into it briefly but don't have the time to
fiddle
with it now.

Finally - somebody I can relate to ;-)

nfilter/NewsProxy is an add-on that would work for OE, but it's
really only for techies, not for the casual OE user.

-sw

I just might try that today!

One time on Usenet said:

Nancy Young said:

I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
without all that spam and other assorted [censored]. Unfortunately,
I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
so I deleted the rule.

I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.

Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?

Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.

nancy

I completely understand, Nancy! Apparently when I suggested the name change
it was taken poorly. So, whatever. Now I just don't see their posts. At
least not until some loser gmail and hotmail folks give up the spamming and
go away. Then maybe I can unblock the domains. Remember when it was just
AOL? LOL

So does that mean you guys are filtering me? I've noticed I don't get
the followups that I used to -- I wonder if that's why...

--
Jani in WA

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter A said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
without all that spam and other assorted [censored]. Unfortunately,
I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
so I deleted the rule.

I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.

Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?

Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.

nancy

Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains? It seems odd
to expect others to change the way they post for your convenience.

That does not catch random spammers.
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Peace, Om

Remove both _ (underscores) to validate gmail e-mails.

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

In article <[email hidden]>,

Nancy Young said:

"Peter A" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I killfiled the gmail domain, life is certainly more pleasant
without all that spam and other assorted [censored]. Unfortunately,
I see that I am missing too many people I don't want to miss,
so I deleted the rule.

I still have the rule for hotmail, but I see kili's posts because
she has munged the @hotmail.com part of her address.

Those of you who use gmail, maybe you could do the same?
This way anyone who kills gmail won't miss your posts?

Best of both worlds ... for me, at least.

Why don't you kill individuals rather than whole domains? It seems odd
to expect others to change the way they post for your convenience.

Please point out where I said I expect anyone to do anything?

Or is it just your usual wish to see the worst in everyone speaking?

nancy

Nancy,

Please let me know if my new Munging worked for you?
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Peace, Om

Remove both _ (underscores) to validate gmail e-mails.

"Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein