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  1. Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.

    E. coli fears trigger large recall of ground beef

    By MarketWatch
    Last Update: 2:33 AM ET Sep 30, 2007
    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Topps Meat Co. said Saturday it expanded a
    recall announced last week to include 21.7 million pounds of ground
    beef that may be contaminated with a potentially fatal strain of E.
    coli bacteria.
    The meat products involved carry a variety of Topps's brand names --
    including Butcher's Best and Sand Castle Fine Meat -- and have "best
    if used by" dates between Sept. 25, 2007, and Sept. 25, 2008.
    On Tuesday, the company issued a much smaller recall, including just
    over 300,000 pounds of ground meat.
    The closely held Elizabeth, N.J., company said the meat had been
    "distributed to retail grocery stores and food service institutions
    throughout" the U.S. It said it believes the vast majority of the
    recalled beef has already been consumed.
    In the latest announcement, Topps didn't specify which retailers might
    have taken delivery of the meat.
    But on Saturday, Stop & Shop Co./Giant Food of Quincy, Mass., said it
    has pulled all Topps frozen-beef patties from its stores. The
    supermarket urged its customers who still have them to discard them or
    return them to any of its stores for a refund.

  2. Sheldon said:

    Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.


    I know you keep saying this, Sheldon, and have for years. Perhaps a lot of
    people don't know they can select a cut or cuts of meat and ask the butcher
    at the stupidmarket to grind it for them. That's what I do. Doesn't cost
    me a penny extra. I simply don't have storage space for a grinder. If the
    butcher can do it for me right there in the store, why would I buy one?

    Quoted message said:


    E. coli fears trigger large recall of ground beef

    By MarketWatch
    Last Update: 2:33 AM ET Sep 30, 2007
    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Topps Meat Co. said Saturday it expanded a
    recall announced last week to include 21.7 million pounds of ground
    beef that may be contaminated with a potentially fatal strain of E.
    coli bacteria.
    The meat products involved carry a variety of Topps's brand names --
    including Butcher's Best and Sand Castle Fine Meat -- and have "best
    if used by" dates between Sept. 25, 2007, and Sept. 25, 2008.


    (snippage)

    Whoa, that's quite a wide range of "used by" dates. Are they talking about
    frozen ground beef? I've never heard of this brand. Must be a regional
    thing...

    Jill

  3. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.

    You are such a [censored].

  4. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Sheldon said:

    Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.


    I know you keep saying this, Sheldon, and have for years. Perhaps a lot
    of
    people don't know they can select a cut or cuts of meat and ask the
    butcher
    at the stupidmarket to grind it for them. That's what I do. Doesn't cost
    me a penny extra. I simply don't have storage space for a grinder. If
    the
    butcher can do it for me right there in the store, why would I buy one?

    Quoted message said:


    E. coli fears trigger large recall of ground beef

    By MarketWatch
    Last Update: 2:33 AM ET Sep 30, 2007
    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Topps Meat Co. said Saturday it expanded a
    recall announced last week to include 21.7 million pounds of ground
    beef that may be contaminated with a potentially fatal strain of E.
    coli bacteria.
    The meat products involved carry a variety of Topps's brand names --
    including Butcher's Best and Sand Castle Fine Meat -- and have "best
    if used by" dates between Sept. 25, 2007, and Sept. 25, 2008.


    (snippage)

    Whoa, that's quite a wide range of "used by" dates. Are they talking
    about
    frozen ground beef? I've never heard of this brand. Must be a regional
    thing...

    Jill

    http://www.toppsmeat.com/retail/index.html

    Probably stocked in a frozen section you don't look at often. Neither do I.

  5. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Sheldon said:

    Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.


    I know you keep saying this, Sheldon, and have for years. Perhaps a lot
    of
    people don't know they can select a cut or cuts of meat and ask the
    butcher
    at the stupidmarket to grind it for them. That's what I do. Doesn't cost
    me a penny extra. I simply don't have storage space for a grinder. If
    the
    butcher can do it for me right there in the store, why would I buy one?

    Quoted message said:


    E. coli fears trigger large recall of ground beef

    By MarketWatch
    Last Update: 2:33 AM ET Sep 30, 2007
    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Topps Meat Co. said Saturday it expanded a
    recall announced last week to include 21.7 million pounds of ground
    beef that may be contaminated with a potentially fatal strain of E.
    coli bacteria.
    The meat products involved carry a variety of Topps's brand names --
    including Butcher's Best and Sand Castle Fine Meat -- and have "best
    if used by" dates between Sept. 25, 2007, and Sept. 25, 2008.


    (snippage)

    Whoa, that's quite a wide range of "used by" dates. Are they talking
    about
    frozen ground beef? I've never heard of this brand. Must be a regional
    thing...

    Jill

    http://www.toppsmeat.com/retail/index.html

    Probably stocked in a frozen section you don't look at often. Neither do I.

  6. One time on Usenet said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Sheldon said:

    Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.


    I know you keep saying this, Sheldon, and have for years. Perhaps a lot
    of
    people don't know they can select a cut or cuts of meat and ask the
    butcher
    at the stupidmarket to grind it for them. That's what I do. Doesn't cost
    me a penny extra. I simply don't have storage space for a grinder. If
    the
    butcher can do it for me right there in the store, why would I buy one?

    Quoted message said:


    E. coli fears trigger large recall of ground beef

    By MarketWatch
    Last Update: 2:33 AM ET Sep 30, 2007
    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Topps Meat Co. said Saturday it expanded a
    recall announced last week to include 21.7 million pounds of ground
    beef that may be contaminated with a potentially fatal strain of E.
    coli bacteria.
    The meat products involved carry a variety of Topps's brand names --
    including Butcher's Best and Sand Castle Fine Meat -- and have "best
    if used by" dates between Sept. 25, 2007, and Sept. 25, 2008.


    (snippage)

    Whoa, that's quite a wide range of "used by" dates. Are they talking
    about
    frozen ground beef? I've never heard of this brand. Must be a regional
    thing...

    Jill

    http://www.toppsmeat.com/retail/index.html

    Probably stocked in a frozen section you don't look at often. Neither do I.

    Eeew, frozen patties. No thanks. I can see the attraction if you've
    got a lot of people to feed, I suppose...

    --
    Jani in WA

  7. "Little Malice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    One time on Usenet said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Sheldon wrote:
    > Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.
    >
    I know you keep saying this, Sheldon, and have for years. Perhaps a
    lot
    of
    people don't know they can select a cut or cuts of meat and ask the
    butcher
    at the stupidmarket to grind it for them. That's what I do. Doesn't
    cost
    me a penny extra. I simply don't have storage space for a grinder. If
    the
    butcher can do it for me right there in the store, why would I buy one?

    >
    > E. coli fears trigger large recall of ground beef
    >
    > By MarketWatch
    > Last Update: 2:33 AM ET Sep 30, 2007
    > NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Topps Meat Co. said Saturday it expanded a
    > recall announced last week to include 21.7 million pounds of ground
    > beef that may be contaminated with a potentially fatal strain of E.
    > coli bacteria.
    > The meat products involved carry a variety of Topps's brand names --
    > including Butcher's Best and Sand Castle Fine Meat -- and have "best
    > if used by" dates between Sept. 25, 2007, and Sept. 25, 2008.
    (snippage)

    Whoa, that's quite a wide range of "used by" dates. Are they talking
    about
    frozen ground beef? I've never heard of this brand. Must be a
    regional
    thing...

    Jill

    http://www.toppsmeat.com/retail/index.html

    Probably stocked in a frozen section you don't look at often. Neither do
    I.

    Eeew, frozen patties. No thanks. I can see the attraction if you've
    got a lot of people to feed, I suppose...

    Little known fact (Disclaimer: in some cities and stores, but not all cities
    and stores): You can sometimes negotiate prices at supermarket meat
    departments. If you've got a lot of people to feed, you may not need to
    resort to the weird Topps-type frozen stuff.

    Example: Earlier this summer, I wanted 10 thick bone-in pork chops for a
    BBQ. The store (Wegman's) already had discounted "club packs" of various
    cuts of chicken, steaks, boneless pork chops, etc., but not for bone-in pork
    chops. I just asked, and they charged me $1.50 less per pound for the larger
    quantity. I don't know if the guy was the department manager or not, but he
    didn't have to go consult anyone. He just said "Yeah, sure. How many?"

  8. JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Example: Earlier this summer, I wanted 10 thick bone-in pork chops for a
    BBQ. The store (Wegman's) already had discounted "club packs" of various
    cuts of chicken, steaks, boneless pork chops, etc., but not for bone-in pork
    chops. I just asked, and they charged me $1.50 less per pound for the larger
    quantity. I don't know if the guy was the department manager or not, but he
    didn't have to go consult anyone. He just said "Yeah, sure. How many?"


    That was an excellent deal!
    In my local area the larger "club packs" (as you called them) are no
    more than fifty cents or so a pound cheaper when you buy as them
    compared to the smaller package price. I can't recall ever getting as
    much off as you did.

  9. "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Example: Earlier this summer, I wanted 10 thick bone-in pork chops for a
    BBQ. The store (Wegman's) already had discounted "club packs" of various
    cuts of chicken, steaks, boneless pork chops, etc., but not for bone-in
    pork chops. I just asked, and they charged me $1.50 less per pound for
    the larger quantity. I don't know if the guy was the department manager
    or not, but he didn't have to go consult anyone. He just said "Yeah,
    sure. How many?"


    That was an excellent deal!
    In my local area the larger "club packs" (as you called them) are no more
    than fifty cents or so a pound cheaper when you buy as them compared to
    the smaller package price. I can't recall ever getting as much off as you
    did.

    It's not possible to escape from Wegman's with just one item, so I suppose
    they make concessions because they know you'll never get past the produce or
    bakery departments without grabbing something. :-) They experiment
    endlessly with new ideas to reach into our pockets. I was at their flagship
    store the other day and in front of a 30x30 ft space was a sign: "Pardon
    our appearance while we prepare a new tea space."

    Tea space indeed. It'll probably work, whatever it is.

  10. JoeSpareBedroom said:

    It's not possible to escape from Wegman's with just one item, so I suppose
    they make concessions because they know you'll never get past the produce or
    bakery departments without grabbing something. :-) They experiment
    endlessly with new ideas to reach into our pockets. I was at their flagship
    store the other day and in front of a 30x30 ft space was a sign: "Pardon
    our appearance while we prepare a new tea space."

    Tea space indeed. It'll probably work, whatever it is.

    I'll be in Altoona, PA this week, and there is a Wegman's in State
    College, about 45 min away. In your opinion, would it be worth a road
    trip over to check it out?

  11. "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    It's not possible to escape from Wegman's with just one item, so I
    suppose they make concessions because they know you'll never get past the
    produce or bakery departments without grabbing something. :-) They
    experiment endlessly with new ideas to reach into our pockets. I was at
    their flagship store the other day and in front of a 30x30 ft space was a
    sign: "Pardon our appearance while we prepare a new tea space."

    Tea space indeed. It'll probably work, whatever it is.

    I'll be in Altoona, PA this week, and there is a Wegman's in State
    College, about 45 min away. In your opinion, would it be worth a road
    trip over to check it out?

    It probably depends on what you're accustomed to at your current store(s),
    in terms of price, service, selection, etc. If your current store is
    gorgeous, spotless, etc, then Wegman's won't come as much of a surprise. Or,
    you might be amazed. My company does business with a lot of supermarket
    chains & wholesalers around the country, and quite a few of our contacts
    have commented that they wish they could hit the mark that Wegman's has.
    But, few companies have the same sort of vision.

    I'd make the trip, just for the spectacle. It's kind of funny - here in
    Rochester, when people from out of town come to visit, the Wegman's
    Pittsford store is a tourist attraction, near the top of the list with the
    George Eastman House.

  12. JoeSpareBedroom said:

    I'd make the trip, just for the spectacle. It's kind of funny - here in
    Rochester, when people from out of town come to visit, the Wegman's
    Pittsford store is a tourist attraction, near the top of the list with the
    George Eastman House.


    We foodies have our priorities, eh?
    My husband went to college there in Rochester, at Eastman.

  13. "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    I'd make the trip, just for the spectacle. It's kind of funny - here in
    Rochester, when people from out of town come to visit, the Wegman's
    Pittsford store is a tourist attraction, near the top of the list with
    the George Eastman House.

    Quoted message said:

    We foodies have our priorities, eh?
    My husband went to college there in Rochester, at Eastman.

    I'm consulting my crystal ball and it tells me your husband studied
    something related to music.

  14. Sheldon said:

    Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.

    You might as well consider soybeans deadly, too. I mean - you
    never know how many different plants those soybeans came from
    either.

    -sw (who will continue to buy and eat store-ground beef)

    Recalls: Tofu Products

    By The Associated Press ¡V 23 hours ago

    The following recall has been announced:

    Quong Hop & Co. of South San Francisco, Calif., is for the second
    time expanding its recall of tofu products, this time to include
    a new item and ones that have shelf-life dates until late
    November and late January.

    The products might be contaminated with Listeria monocytogenes.
    Listeria is a microorganism that can cause serious or fatal
    infections in children, the elderly or those with weakened immune
    systems. No illnesses have been reported in connection with any
    of the recalled products, Quong Hop said.

  15. JoeSpareBedroom said:

    I'd make the trip, just for the spectacle. It's kind of funny - here in
    Rochester, when people from out of town come to visit, the Wegman's
    Pittsford store is a tourist attraction, near the top of the list with the
    George Eastman House.

    The Pittsford store is from hunger. I was more fond of the old one that
    it replaced, back when it was next door to dear departed Chase Pitkin.
    THAT was a good Wegman's with a comprehensive selection and no nonsense.
    The "new" store is a spectacle, and a joke.

  16. "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    It's not possible to escape from Wegman's with just one
    item, so I suppose they make concessions because they know
    you'll never get past the produce or bakery departments
    without grabbing something. :-) They experiment endlessly
    with new ideas to reach into our pockets. I was at their
    flagship store the other day and in front of a 30x30 ft
    space was a sign: "Pardon our appearance while we prepare
    a new tea space."

    Tea space indeed. It'll probably work, whatever it is.

    which Wegman's do you shop at most? i go to the Auburn store,
    but i've been to a couple in Rochester, Webster & i think
    Penfield.
    my SO makes fun of me, but i buy stuff at Wegmans i can't get
    here, like pearl tapioca (i have a 7 year old boy. fish eye
    pudding is gross enough to be very appealing).
    pity they'll never open out here in NH.
    lee

  17. "enigma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    It's not possible to escape from Wegman's with just one
    item, so I suppose they make concessions because they know
    you'll never get past the produce or bakery departments
    without grabbing something. :-) They experiment endlessly
    with new ideas to reach into our pockets. I was at their
    flagship store the other day and in front of a 30x30 ft
    space was a sign: "Pardon our appearance while we prepare
    a new tea space."

    Tea space indeed. It'll probably work, whatever it is.

    which Wegman's do you shop at most? i go to the Auburn store,
    but i've been to a couple in Rochester, Webster & i think
    Penfield.
    my SO makes fun of me, but i buy stuff at Wegmans i can't get
    here, like pearl tapioca (i have a 7 year old boy. fish eye
    pudding is gross enough to be very appealing).
    pity they'll never open out here in NH.
    lee

    Mostly Webster, sometimes Pittsford if I need a better seafood selection.

  18. Sqwertz said:

    On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:08:06 -0700, Sheldon wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    -sw (who will continue to buy and eat store-ground beef)

    Hey Steve you'll probably know this. How can I find the source of
    store-packaged ground beef?

  19. "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Sqwertz said:

    On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:08:06 -0700, Sheldon wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    -sw (who will continue to buy and eat store-ground beef)

    Hey Steve you'll probably know this. How can I find the source of
    store-packaged ground beef?

    Ask at the store.

  20. Goomba38 said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Example: Earlier this summer, I wanted 10 thick bone-in pork chops for a
    BBQ. The store (Wegman's) already had discounted "club packs" of various
    cuts of chicken, steaks, boneless pork chops, etc., but not for bone-in pork
    chops. I just asked, and they charged me $1.50 less per pound for the larger
    quantity. I don't know if the guy was the department manager or not, but he
    didn't have to go consult anyone. He just said "Yeah, sure. How many?"

    That was an excellent deal!
    In my local area the larger "club packs" (as you called them) are no
    more than fifty cents or so a pound cheaper when you buy as them
    compared to the smaller package price. I can't recall ever getting as
    much off as you did.

    I just knew you're easy. He's essentially claiming he got them for
    half price.. you may believe him but I don't, not a word.

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