SICK MEAT

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:29:33 -0400, "cybercat" <[email hidden]>

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"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.

You are such a [censored].

a pre-ground mystery [censored].

your pal,
blake

jmcquown said:

Sheldon said:

Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.

I know you keep saying this, Sheldon, and have for years. Perhaps a lot of
people don't know they can select a cut or cuts of meat and ask the butcher
at the stupidmarket to grind it for them. That's what I do. Doesn't cost
me a penny extra. I simply don't have storage space for a grinder. If the
butcher can do it for me right there in the store, why would I buy one?

Commercial grinders hold at least 2-3 pounds of meat in their
hopper... so the meat you choose ain't what comes out. And anyway,
stupidmarket grinders are never in front where you can see them, they
are out of sight inside the walk-in fridge, and they don't want you to
see what they grind, so they purposely keep them out of public view,
and therein lies the entire point, it's MYSTERY meat... and for a long
time now it's been against the law for grinders to be in
unrefrigerated space, so butcher shops have capitalized on that as an
excuse to keep grinders out of sight. And right after the grinder is
used it's cleaned, and cleaned after each kind of meat, they are not
going to contaminate a grinder just for one customer, no way, no how.
Your story ain't beliveable, so I don't believe you. This ain't the
first time you tried that very same fairy tale, and you got the same
reply. If you would have claimed you have your meat ground at a small
stand alone type butcher shop then maybe (they don't typically custom
grind anymore either), but here you are obviously lying... I'm
positive you buy the same stupidmarket cheapo preground mystery meat
the same as all the other kitchen imbeciles.

And as far as I'm concerned the meat grinder is the most critical
piece of equipment in the kitchen, anyone doesn't have and use one is
no kind of cook... and a home grinder takes no more storage space than
a shoebox, in fact grinders come apart, the motor separates from the
grinder head so they're easy to store in very small spaces, and the
entire thing doesn't weigh more than 6-7 pounds, could easily fit into
a small tote bag and hung in a clothes closet or shoved under a bed...
had you claimed you can't afford the hundred some odd bucks you'd
sound more believeable... you wanna put down my methods, try it with
honest discussion, Jill, but stop lying!

JoeSpareBedroom said:

Scott said:

Hey Steve you'll probably know this. How can I find the source of
store-packaged ground beef?

Ask at the store.

Ahahahahahahahahahaha. . . . TWO IDIOTS... the source of store-
packaged ground beef is THE STORE! DUH

There is no way to know what/who is in ground meat unless you grind it
yourself, that is the ONLY way!

Sheldon

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JoeSpareBedroom said:

Scott said:

Hey Steve you'll probably know this. How can I find the source of
store-packaged ground beef?

Ask at the store.

Ahahahahahahahahahaha. . . . TWO IDIOTS... the source of store-
packaged ground beef is THE STORE! DUH
Sheldon

No, stupid. You never saw me say "the source was the store".

cyberpussy said:

"Sheldon" wrote

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Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.

You are such a [censored].

We know you have a super meat grinder, Ms. Hot [censored] on Roids

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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:29:33 -0400, "cybercat" <[email hidden]>

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"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.

You are such a [censored].

a pre-ground mystery [censored].

lol

Sheldon said:

jmcquown said:

Sheldon said:

Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.

I know you keep saying this, Sheldon, and have for years. Perhaps a
lot of people don't know they can select a cut or cuts of meat and
ask the butcher at the stupidmarket to grind it for them. That's
what I do. Doesn't cost me a penny extra. I simply don't have
storage space for a grinder. If the butcher can do it for me right
there in the store, why would I buy one?

Commercial grinders hold at least 2-3 pounds of meat in their
hopper... so the meat you choose ain't what comes out. And anyway,
stupidmarket grinders are never in front where you can see them, they
are out of sight inside the walk-in fridge, and they don't want you to
see what they grind, so they purposely keep them out of public view,
and therein lies the entire point, it's MYSTERY meat... and for a long
time now it's been against the law for grinders to be in
unrefrigerated space, so butcher shops have capitalized on that as an
excuse to keep grinders out of sight. And right after the grinder is
used it's cleaned, and cleaned after each kind of meat, they are not
going to contaminate a grinder just for one customer, no way, no how.
Your story ain't beliveable, so I don't believe you. This ain't the
first time you tried that very same fairy tale, and you got the same
reply.

Sorry, it's no fairy tale. There are big glass walls behind the butcher
counter and I'm sure it's pretty cold back there, but I can see the
grinders. I can see the slicers. I can see what they're doing. And they
clean the grinders.

It's no lie that on December 31, 1999 I was looking for ground pork and the
store was out of it. The butcher at the (newly bought out local chain) said
they were only allowed to sell that pre-packed Hormel ground pork since
Albertson's bought the local chain. The butcher groused that the new
management wouldn't let them grind anything but beef. He was [censored] because
he'd been a butcher for 20 years and said he knows how to clean a meat
grinder. Professional butchers know how to do this, duh! He was so ticked
at them telling him he couldn't do this, he selected some nice pork loin for
me with a good (but not too much) amount of fat and ground 3/4 lb. of pork
for me. And trust me, it was pork. I know the difference between ground
pork, ground beef and ground lamb.

Quoted message said:

If you would have claimed you have your meat ground at a small
stand alone type butcher shop then maybe (they don't typically custom
grind anymore either), but here you are obviously lying... I'm
positive you buy the same stupidmarket cheapo preground mystery meat
the same as all the other kitchen imbeciles.

You're obviously not shopping in the same sort of supermarket I do.
Albertson's bailed only a year after acquiring this formerly family owned
local store and Schnuck's took over. I am quite pleased with Schuck's.

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And as far as I'm concerned the meat grinder is the most critical
piece of equipment in the kitchen, anyone doesn't have and use one is
no kind of cook... and a home grinder takes no more storage space than
a shoebox, in fact grinders come apart, the motor separates from the
grinder head so they're easy to store in very small spaces, and the
entire thing doesn't weigh more than 6-7 pounds, could easily fit into
a small tote bag and hung in a clothes closet or shoved under a bed...
had you claimed you can't afford the hundred some odd bucks you'd
sound more believeable...

Cost is another factor. But you haven't seen my cubicle-sized kitchen or my
pantry. I actually store some often-used cookware in my 2nd (unused)
bathroom because I've got no other place to put it. So don't tell me about
"shoeboxes".

you wanna put down my methods, try it with

Quoted message said:

honest discussion, Jill, but stop lying!

Sorry, but I'm not lying. They also custom cut meat (prime rib, for example
) into steaks of whatever thickness you prefer.(refer to another thread) if
you ask them to. You want to tell me they never clean the meat slicers,
either? You're the one who is lying. I'm beginning to think you have stock
in some meat grinder mfg. company.

Jill

Scott said:

Sheldon said:

You're showing everyone that you're even dumber than everyone
thought... LEARN HOW TO READ YOU MORON... idiot #1 asked about
"store- packaged ground beef", and you, idiot #2 comes along and
says "Ask at the store".

I asked for the source (in other words, *where* did it come from). I
never noticed any cows behind my grocery store so I know it didn't
come from there.

They probably get boxes of beef roasts, etc. which are labelled as coming
from Omaha (or wherever). Whether or not they pay attention to it I
couldn't say.

Jill

Scott said:

Sqwertz said:

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:08:06 -0700, Sheldon wrote:

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-sw (who will continue to buy and eat store-ground beef)

Sheldon would have you believe professional butchers don't know how to grind
meat and then clean out the grinders. Poppycock!

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Hey Steve you'll probably know this. How can I find the source of
store-packaged ground beef?

I'm sure the boxes of meats they receive have a label indicating where the
beef came from. Whether or not the employees pay attention to this is
another story.

Jill

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Quoted message said:

Sheldon said:

jmcquown said:

Sheldon wrote:
> Anyone who buys preground mystery meat deserves to get sick.

I know you keep saying this, Sheldon, and have for years. Perhaps a
lot of people don't know they can select a cut or cuts of meat and
ask the butcher at the stupidmarket to grind it for them. That's
what I do. Doesn't cost me a penny extra. I simply don't have
storage space for a grinder. If the butcher can do it for me right
there in the store, why would I buy one?

Commercial grinders hold at least 2-3 pounds of meat in their
hopper... so the meat you choose ain't what comes out. And anyway,
stupidmarket grinders are never in front where you can see them, they
are out of sight inside the walk-in fridge, and they don't want you to
see what they grind, so they purposely keep them out of public view,
and therein lies the entire point, it's MYSTERY meat... and for a long
time now it's been against the law for grinders to be in
unrefrigerated space, so butcher shops have capitalized on that as an
excuse to keep grinders out of sight. And right after the grinder is
used it's cleaned, and cleaned after each kind of meat, they are not
going to contaminate a grinder just for one customer, no way, no how.
Your story ain't beliveable, so I don't believe you. This ain't the
first time you tried that very same fairy tale, and you got the same
reply.

Sorry, it's no fairy tale. There are big glass walls behind the butcher
counter and I'm sure it's pretty cold back there, but I can see the
grinders. I can see the slicers. I can see what they're doing. And they
clean the grinders.

It's no lie that on December 31, 1999 I was looking for ground pork and
the
store was out of it. The butcher at the (newly bought out local chain)
said
they were only allowed to sell that pre-packed Hormel ground pork since
Albertson's bought the local chain. The butcher groused that the new
management wouldn't let them grind anything but beef. He was [censored]
because
he'd been a butcher for 20 years and said he knows how to clean a meat
grinder. Professional butchers know how to do this, duh! He was so
ticked
at them telling him he couldn't do this, he selected some nice pork loin
for
me with a good (but not too much) amount of fat and ground 3/4 lb. of pork
for me. And trust me, it was pork. I know the difference between ground
pork, ground beef and ground lamb.

Quoted message said:

If you would have claimed you have your meat ground at a small
stand alone type butcher shop then maybe (they don't typically custom
grind anymore either), but here you are obviously lying... I'm
positive you buy the same stupidmarket cheapo preground mystery meat
the same as all the other kitchen imbeciles.

You're obviously not shopping in the same sort of supermarket I do.
Albertson's bailed only a year after acquiring this formerly family owned
local store and Schnuck's took over. I am quite pleased with Schuck's.

Quoted message said:

And as far as I'm concerned the meat grinder is the most critical
piece of equipment in the kitchen, anyone doesn't have and use one is
no kind of cook... and a home grinder takes no more storage space than
a shoebox, in fact grinders come apart, the motor separates from the
grinder head so they're easy to store in very small spaces, and the
entire thing doesn't weigh more than 6-7 pounds, could easily fit into
a small tote bag and hung in a clothes closet or shoved under a bed...
had you claimed you can't afford the hundred some odd bucks you'd
sound more believeable...

Cost is another factor. But you haven't seen my cubicle-sized kitchen or
my
pantry. I actually store some often-used cookware in my 2nd (unused)
bathroom because I've got no other place to put it. So don't tell me
about
"shoeboxes".

you wanna put down my methods, try it with

Quoted message said:

honest discussion, Jill, but stop lying!

Sorry, but I'm not lying. They also custom cut meat (prime rib, for
example
) into steaks of whatever thickness you prefer.(refer to another thread)
if
you ask them to. You want to tell me they never clean the meat slicers,
either? You're the one who is lying. I'm beginning to think you have
stock
in some meat grinder mfg. company.

Jill

If I recall, Sheldon has complained about the quality of supermarkets where
he lives. But, like Omaload, he preaches that nobody has anything he doesn't
have.

Sheldon said:

Goomba38 said:

JoeSpareBedroom said:

Example: Earlier this summer, I wanted 10 thick bone-in pork chops
for a BBQ. The store (Wegman's) already had discounted "club packs"
of various cuts of chicken, steaks, boneless pork chops, etc., but
not for bone-in pork chops. I just asked, and they charged me $1.50
less per pound for the larger quantity. I don't know if the guy was
the department manager or not, but he didn't have to go consult
anyone. He just said "Yeah, sure. How many?"

That was an excellent deal!
In my local area the larger "club packs" (as you called them) are no
more than fifty cents or so a pound cheaper when you buy as them
compared to the smaller package price. I can't recall ever getting as
much off as you did.

I just knew you're easy. He's essentially claiming he got them for
half price.. you may believe him but I don't, not a word.

You don't believe anything anyone says. I got a couple of fantastic veal
chops roughly 50% off a couple of months ago. And they weren't in the
"about to turn green, everything must go!" bin, either. Store *do* have
sales sometimes, you know.

Jill

Scott said:

Hey Steve you'll probably know this. How can I find the source of
store-packaged ground beef?

What store/chain?

Most store-ground beef comes from trimmings of at least two of
the 4 major beef distributors: Tyson/IBP, Cargill/Excel,
Swift/ConAgra, and Farmland National Beef. Most large chains use
2 or more of those distributors for their supply. Some use all 4
at various times.

I don't think I've ever seen a major chain use one of those
suppliers exclusively, but that may be the case with some
independents and smaller regional chains. Some of those stores
may not even use the Big 4, but rather rely on some
ungraded/no-roll beef supplier.

In short, it probably come from at least two different
distributors and a couple-few dozen cows. You'll never track it
down.

-sw

JoeSpareBedroom said:

If I recall, Sheldon has complained about the quality of supermarkets where
he lives. But, like Omaload, he preaches that nobody has anything he doesn't
have.

I'm tempted to clue you in on something, but I'll let you remain
ignorant.

-sw

Sqwertz said:

JoeSpareBedroom said:

If I recall, Sheldon has complained about the quality of supermarkets where
he lives. But, like Omaload, he preaches that nobody has anything he doesn't
have.

I'm tempted to clue you in on something, but I'll let you remain
ignorant.

Never mind. I read your post wrong.

-sw

"Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Sqwertz said:

JoeSpareBedroom said:

If I recall, Sheldon has complained about the quality of supermarkets
where
he lives. But, like Omaload, he preaches that nobody has anything he
doesn't
have.

I'm tempted to clue you in on something, but I'll let you remain
ignorant.

Never mind. I read your post wrong.

-sw

Otay, butwheat.

Goomba38 said:

That was an excellent deal!
In my local area the larger "club packs" (as you called them) are no
more than fifty cents or so a pound cheaper when you buy as them
compared to the smaller package price. I can't recall ever getting as
much off as you did.

When I lived in Oklahoma, I could go into the Butcher Block of what
was Albertsons (now Safeway) around 7:15-7:30 p.m. The butchers had to
wash down their cases and be closed by 8 p.m. They had to sell
whatever hamburger meat was behind the butcher's glass. That meant the
high-end ground sirloin, chuck, or extra lean sold for .99¢ - $1.49
lb. Store policy (or possibly the state) does not allow them to
package the meat and put it out with the other HB meat once it's been
in the open market case. Anyway, you should see how many people hover
at that time "shopping" waiting to snag huge mounds of ground meat! I
haven't found out if the Safeway's in California follow the same
practices -- but we don't eat nearly as much HB meat as I used to
either, nor am I feeding as many mouths.

If only the practice applied to tenderloin, etc.!

--Lin

Sqwertz said:

Scott said:

Hey Steve you'll probably know this. How can I find the source of
store-packaged ground beef?

What store/chain?

Hy-vee and Walmart (do I really want to know?)

Quoted message said:

Most store-ground beef comes from trimmings of at least two of
the 4 major beef distributors: Tyson/IBP, Cargill/Excel,
Swift/ConAgra, and Farmland National Beef. Most large chains use
2 or more of those distributors for their supply. Some use all 4
at various times.

Now I have some search terms that I can google with.

Sqwertz said:

Scott said:

Hey Steve you'll probably know this. How can I find the source of
store-packaged ground beef?

What store/chain?

Hy-vee and Walmart (do I really want to know?)

Quoted message said:

Most store-ground beef comes from trimmings of at least two of
the 4 major beef distributors: Tyson/IBP, Cargill/Excel,
Swift/ConAgra, and Farmland National Beef. Most large chains use
2 or more of those distributors for their supply. Some use all 4
at various times.

Now I have some search terms that I can google with.