RIP Galaxy?

marc said:

Cleaned the bike this morning and I have discovered a small hole worn in
the chain stay! :-( Not in work can't afford new bike ( Gis a job
anyone?) not sure how much it will cost to repair. Is this the end for
the Galaxy?

How small? How did it happen?

marc said:

I was out on my Galaxy yesterday and met up with another "person on
bike" (I thought he was a cyclist until later)after about a mile I
started hearing a twice wheel cycle squeak and thought ( and said)
will have to clean/oil the chain when I get home, which is odd 'cos I
only did it 50 miles ago, I'm not impressed with that new lube I
bought). % miles later I had a visit from the p**ct**e fairy. the
person on bike said " You might have a puncture! Oh well see you
again!" This is when I found out he wasn't a cyclist! :-( only a 2
miles walk home ( coudn't be bothered changing a wheel covered in dog
[censored] from the cycle route) Cleaned the bike this morning and I have
discovered a small hole worn in the chain stay! :-( Not in work
can't afford new bike ( Gis a job anyone?) not sure how much it will
cost to repair. Is this the end for the Galaxy?

Are you sure the hole wasn't always there? Some welded frames have air
holes in the seat stays. (Not sure about others).

~PB

POHB said:

marc said:

Cleaned the bike this morning and I have discovered a small hole worn in
the chain stay! :-( Not in work can't afford new bike ( Gis a job
anyone?) not sure how much it will cost to repair. Is this the end for
the Galaxy?

How small? How did it happen?

about 2-3 mm , looks as if the tyre/wheel has been rubbing

Pete Biggs said:

marc said:

I was out on my Galaxy yesterday and met up with another "person on
bike" (I thought he was a cyclist until later)after about a mile I
started hearing a twice wheel cycle squeak and thought ( and said)
will have to clean/oil the chain when I get home, which is odd 'cos I
only did it 50 miles ago, I'm not impressed with that new lube I
bought). % miles later I had a visit from the p**ct**e fairy. the
person on bike said " You might have a puncture! Oh well see you
again!" This is when I found out he wasn't a cyclist! :-( only a 2
miles walk home ( coudn't be bothered changing a wheel covered in dog
[censored] from the cycle route) Cleaned the bike this morning and I have
discovered a small hole worn in the chain stay! :-( Not in work
can't afford new bike ( Gis a job anyone?) not sure how much it will
cost to repair. Is this the end for the Galaxy?

Are you sure the hole wasn't always there? Some welded frames have air
holes in the seat stays. (Not sure about others).

it might have been, I think I can remember a drain type hole there, but
it is now ragged.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How small? How did it happen?

about 2-3 mm , looks as if the tyre/wheel has been rubbing

Sounds odd. You'd surely notice any such rubbing long before it wore a hole
thru' metal (hard to see a (rubber) tyre doing it at all, and how would the
rim touch it without the tyre getting in the way?) I'd go and ask the nice
chap at your LBS who will probably reassure you that it was made that way.
Certainly I think you're a long way from giving it the last rites.

marc said:

Pete Biggs said:

Are you sure the hole wasn't always there? Some welded frames have air
holes in the seat stays. (Not sure about others).

it might have been, I think I can remember a drain type hole there, but
it is now ragged.

Have a look at the paint around the hole. If the tyre/wheel has been
rubbing, the paint will be damaged in a worn-away stripe. If the
paint damage is more like the top layer being chipped of, it's
probably just been caught by a stone or something. The edge around
the hole will be more vulnerable as it's, well, an edge.

As others have said, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that the wheel has worn
a hole. If that were the case, then the metal around the hole would
be micro-thin, completely paint free and shiny. The extent of the
damage could even mean that it should have collapsed by now!

Don't dump the bike yet!

PhilD

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PhilD said:

marc said:

Pete Biggs said:

Are you sure the hole wasn't always there? Some welded frames have air
holes in the seat stays. (Not sure about others).

it might have been, I think I can remember a drain type hole there, but
it is now ragged.

Have a look at the paint around the hole. If the tyre/wheel has been
rubbing, the paint will be damaged in a worn-away stripe. If the
paint damage is more like the top layer being chipped of, it's
probably just been caught by a stone or something. The edge around
the hole will be more vulnerable as it's, well, an edge.

As others have said, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that the wheel has worn
a hole. If that were the case, then the metal around the hole would
be micro-thin, completely paint free and shiny. The extent of the
damage could even mean that it should have collapsed by now!

Don't dump the bike yet!

Did I not mention the shiny metal?

"spokes" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

Quoted message said:

You'd surely notice any such rubbing long before it wore a hole thru'
metal (hard to see a (rubber) tyre doing it at all

You'd be surprised. A gentle brush of tyre against chainstay once per
revolution with a little abrasive dirt in the interface can make relatively
short work of a lightweight chainstay. I've seen a number of frames worn
through in that area.

James Thomson

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Quoted message said:

PhilD said:

marc said:

Pete Biggs wrote:
> Are you sure the hole wasn't always there? Some welded frames have air
> holes in the seat stays. (Not sure about others).
it might have been, I think I can remember a drain type hole there, but
it is now ragged.

Have a look at the paint around the hole. If the tyre/wheel has been
rubbing, the paint will be damaged in a worn-away stripe. If the
paint damage is more like the top layer being chipped of, it's
probably just been caught by a stone or something. The edge around
the hole will be more vulnerable as it's, well, an edge.

As others have said, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that the wheel has worn
a hole. If that were the case, then the metal around the hole would
be micro-thin, completely paint free and shiny. The extent of the
damage could even mean that it should have collapsed by now!

Don't dump the bike yet!

Did I not mention the shiny metal?

It sounds like it might be a breather hole for the frame but if you are
able to post a photo somewhere it will be easier to give an opinion.
Very unlikely a tyre would wear a hole that small or at all and you
would have known that the tyre was rubbing both from sound and effort
over some considerable period. For a hole that size I would not be too
bothered - fill it if you need to with car body filler or get a friendly
welder to dob some new metal over it otherwise just carry on and keep an
eye on it.
--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

"marc" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

Quoted message said:

Cleaned the bike this morning and I have discovered a small hole
worn in the chain stay!

Argos Racing Cycles quote 60gbp for a chainstay replacement. Paint will be
extra.

http://www.argoscycles.co.uk/renovation-pricelist.htm

James Thomson

James Thomson said:

"marc" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

Quoted message said:

Cleaned the bike this morning and I have discovered a small hole
worn in the chain stay!

Argos Racing Cycles quote 60gbp for a chainstay replacement. Paint will be
extra.

http://www.argoscycles.co.uk/renovation-pricelist.htm

and Mercian quote 47.50.

http://www.merciancycles.com/renovation.asp

--

Tim

fast and gripping, non pompous, glossy and credible.

Tony Raven said:

Quoted message said:

Did I not mention the shiny metal?

It sounds like it might be a breather hole for the frame but if you are
able to post a photo somewhere it will be easier to give an opinion.
Very unlikely a tyre would wear a hole that small or at all and you
would have known that the tyre was rubbing both from sound and effort
over some considerable period. For a hole that size I would not be too
bothered - fill it if you need to with car body filler or get a friendly
welder to dob some new metal over it otherwise just carry on and keep an
eye on it.

Breatherholes if any will be at the dropout end, not in the highest
loaded section of the tube. The tube drains into the BBshell, and there
is no point in having breatherholes halfway down a tube.

Chainstays usually fail outside first, but i wouldn't leave it as is.
You could try having someone braze or weld a patch over it.

--
/Marten

info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

Tony Raven said:

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PhilD said:

On Sep 27, 11:08 am, marc <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Pete Biggs wrote:
>> Are you sure the hole wasn't always there? Some welded frames have air
>> holes in the seat stays. (Not sure about others).
> it might have been, I think I can remember a drain type hole there, but
> it is now ragged.

Have a look at the paint around the hole. If the tyre/wheel has been
rubbing, the paint will be damaged in a worn-away stripe. If the
paint damage is more like the top layer being chipped of, it's
probably just been caught by a stone or something. The edge around
the hole will be more vulnerable as it's, well, an edge.

As others have said, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that the wheel has worn
a hole. If that were the case, then the metal around the hole would
be micro-thin, completely paint free and shiny. The extent of the
damage could even mean that it should have collapsed by now!

Don't dump the bike yet!

Did I not mention the shiny metal?

It sounds like it might be a breather hole for the frame but if you are
able to post a photo somewhere it will be easier to give an opinion.
Very unlikely a tyre would wear a hole that small or at all and you
would have known that the tyre was rubbing both from sound and effort
over some considerable period. For a hole that size I would not be too
bothered - fill it if you need to with car body filler or get a friendly
welder to dob some new metal over it otherwise just carry on and keep an
eye on it.

try this
http:[email hidden]/album?.dir=5bbere2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

Slap a patch on it (see your local bike welder) and keep riding. Thats my
gut feeling and that's what I would do if it were mine.

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Quoted message said:

Tony Raven said:

It sounds like it might be a breather hole for the frame but if you are
able to post a photo somewhere it will be easier to give an opinion.
Very unlikely a tyre would wear a hole that small or at all and you
would have known that the tyre was rubbing both from sound and effort
over some considerable period. For a hole that size I would not be too
bothered - fill it if you need to with car body filler or get a friendly
welder to dob some new metal over it otherwise just carry on and keep an
eye on it.

try this
http:[email hidden]/album?.dir=5bbere2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

Hmmm...difficult...I'd say it looks like wear at the site of a breather
hole but it might be just a worn hole. I would expect that wear pattern
to produce a larger, elongated hole not a small roundish one but OTOH
its not a standard place for a breather hole.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

marc said:

http:[email hidden]/album?.dir=5bbere2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

Well, it certainly hasn't always been like /that/!

Anyway it'll be worth getting the frame repaired if it and the bike is
otherwise in reasonable condition.

~PB

marc said:

Tony Raven said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
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Quoted message said:

PhilD wrote:
> On Sep 27, 11:08 am, marc <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> Pete Biggs wrote:
>>> Are you sure the hole wasn't always there? Some welded frames
>>> have air
>>> holes in the seat stays. (Not sure about others).
>> it might have been, I think I can remember a drain type hole there,
>> but
>> it is now ragged.
>
> Have a look at the paint around the hole. If the tyre/wheel has been
> rubbing, the paint will be damaged in a worn-away stripe. If the
> paint damage is more like the top layer being chipped of, it's
> probably just been caught by a stone or something. The edge around
> the hole will be more vulnerable as it's, well, an edge.
>
> As others have said, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that the wheel has worn
> a hole. If that were the case, then the metal around the hole would
> be micro-thin, completely paint free and shiny. The extent of the
> damage could even mean that it should have collapsed by now!
>
> Don't dump the bike yet!
>
>
Did I not mention the shiny metal?

It sounds like it might be a breather hole for the frame but if you
are able to post a photo somewhere it will be easier to give an
opinion. Very unlikely a tyre would wear a hole that small or at all
and you would have known that the tyre was rubbing both from sound and
effort over some considerable period. For a hole that size I would
not be too bothered - fill it if you need to with car body filler or
get a friendly welder to dob some new metal over it otherwise just
carry on and keep an eye on it.

try this
http:[email hidden]/album?.dir=5bbere2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

Frame is worn thin and has rusted through. Check the rest of the frame
for surprises before you spend money on it.

--
/Marten

info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

Steve Watkin said:

Slap a patch on it (see your local bike welder) and keep riding. Thats my
gut feeling and that's what I would do if it were mine.

Local bike brazer would be the plan I would imagine.

Yup, brazing the way.