RIP Galaxy?

marc said:

try this
http:[email hidden]/album?.dir=5bbere2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

If it does get worse it wont do anything drastic, I had a frame crack
all the way round the chainstay and I was wondering what the clicky
noise was for weeks.

I might be tempted to file the hole out to a nice smooth circle and slap
some primer on it to keep the rust out.

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In article <[email hidden]>, marc
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I was out on my Galaxy yesterday and met up with another "person on
bike" (I thought he was a cyclist until later)after about a mile I
started hearing a twice wheel cycle squeak and thought ( and said) will
have to clean/oil the chain when I get home, which is odd 'cos I only
did it 50 miles ago, I'm not impressed with that new lube I bought). %
miles later I had a visit from the p**ct**e fairy. the person on bike
said " You might have a puncture! Oh well see you again!" This is when I
found out he wasn't a cyclist! :-( only a 2 miles walk home ( coudn't
be bothered changing a wheel covered in dog [censored] from the cycle route)
Cleaned the bike this morning and I have discovered a small hole worn in
the chain stay! :-( Not in work can't afford new bike ( Gis a job
anyone?) not sure how much it will cost to repair. Is this the end for
the Galaxy?

If it's a steel frame you can just braze a patch over it until you can
afford to have the chainstay replaced, and it will probably survive a
long time without repair anyway if you figure out what caused it and
make sure it doesn't get any worse. If it's an alloy frame then it's
probably dead - repair is unlikely to work well and a fracture will
probably occur fairly quickly.

Andy Morris said the following on 27/09/2007 23:43:

Quoted message said:

If it does get worse it wont do anything drastic, I had a frame crack
all the way round the chainstay and I was wondering what the clicky
noise was for weeks.

The scariest fault I found was discovered after I eventually decided to
have a look to see why the steering felt vague. I'd been riding around
for a couple of weeks, commuting from South Wigston to Leicester Poly
(8-10 mile round trip, IIRC) with only one fork blade attached to the crown!

This was on a Tensor bike - barely one step up from Sterling House.
Well, I was a student at the time!

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http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Andy Morris said:

If it does get worse it wont do anything drastic, I had a frame crack
all the way round the chainstay and I was wondering what the clicky
noise was for weeks.

Or the frame goes all wobbly at a roundabout, with a doubledecker
breathing down your neck 😉

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/Marten

info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

marc said:

Is this the end for
the Galaxy?

Not while Flash Gordon Lives!!

BugBear

in message <[email hidden]>, marc

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Quoted message said:

It sounds like it might be a breather hole for the frame but if you are
able to post a photo somewhere it will be easier to give an opinion.

try this

http:[email hidden]/album?.dir=5bbere2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

That really does not look too bad. Personally I would sand it down, apply
good quality primer, and paint. Ideally get primer inside the tube, if you
practically can, to slow down rusting out from the inside, and use a
teenie bit of plastic padding or car body filler to block the hole and
stop dirt getting in[1]. Getting a patch brazed on would be better, but
probably the difference in cost between getting a decent patch brazed on
and getting the chainstay replaced is not much.

Steel frames stand up to a tremendous amount of abuse and neglect; that one
has years of useful life in it yet, and if the tube does eventually fail
it is repairable.

[1] Damp gets in anyway, you can't prevent that. But dirt gives it
something to cling to and thus accelerates corrosion.

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;; I'll have a proper rant later, when I get the time.

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, marc

(') said:

Quoted message said:

It sounds like it might be a breather hole for the frame but if you are
able to post a photo somewhere it will be easier to give an opinion.

try this

http:[email hidden]/album?.dir=5bbere2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

That really does not look too bad. Personally I would sand it down, apply
good quality primer, and paint. Ideally get primer inside the tube, if you
practically can, to slow down rusting out from the inside, and use a
teenie bit of plastic padding or car body filler to block the hole and
stop dirt getting in[1]. Getting a patch brazed on would be better, but
probably the difference in cost between getting a decent patch brazed on
and getting the chainstay replaced is not much.

Steel frames stand up to a tremendous amount of abuse and neglect; that one
has years of useful life in it yet, and if the tube does eventually fail
it is repairable.

[1] Damp gets in anyway, you can't prevent that. But dirt gives it
something to cling to and thus accelerates corrosion.

I know you are an advocate of single sided wheels, but this is carrying
things to far!

The tube rusted through in this area because the corrosion was
accelerated by stress reversals. Messing about with bodyfiller is only
going to make a patch repair more difficult or impossible. Use
electrical tape if you really want to ignore whats happening.

You could probably patch the chainstay with most parts in situ, but for
a chainstay replacement you're talking about a compleet stripping of the
frame, machining of the BB, realignment and repaint.

--
/Marten

info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon
Brooke
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

That really does not look too bad.

To me it looks as if the chainstay will soon be cracked all the way
around the inside, but maybe that's just the poor quality of the
photograph.

In article <[email hidden]>, M-gineering
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

You could probably patch the chainstay with most parts in situ, but for
a chainstay replacement you're talking about a compleet stripping of the
frame, machining of the BB, realignment and repaint.

Machining of the bottom bracket? All you'd have to do for a basic stay
replacement is mark and measure the existing stay, cut a chunk out of
the middle, unbraze it, measure and cut a replacement, spring it into
place and re-braze it. Realignment is just a matter of setting the
replacement stay the right distance from the existing stay, refinishing
can be done with a wire brush and an aerosol can. The only stripping
required is removal of the wheel, mudguard, bottom bracket and maybe the
front mech. I know this isn't framebuilding at its finest, but the
guy's on a budget.