Meridia -- does it work?

teena said:

My doctor suggested I try Meridia. I am a 42 year old female, nearly 100
pounds overweight. Does anyone know anything about this drug?

No, but I do know that eating less and exercising more
works every time - without any side effects.

Marsha/Ohio

teena said:

My doctor suggested I try Meridia. I am a 42 year old female, nearly 100
pounds overweight. Does anyone know anything about this drug?

It definitely works.

Marsha said:

teena said:

My doctor suggested I try Meridia. I am a 42 year old female,
nearly 100 pounds overweight. Does anyone know anything about this
drug?

No, but I do know that eating less and exercising more
works every time - without any side effects.

Marsha/Ohio

That wasn't helpful. You really should be ashamed of yourself. I am
obviously in big trouble here -- big trouble. Obviously I haven't had the
willpower or whatever it takes to "eat less and exercise more" and I am
getting frightened and desperate. My doctor suggested this. I do not like
to take any drugs, but I am afraid for my health. Of course, I have no idea
what Meridia could do to my health and thought someone here might be able to
give me a reasoned, non-abusive response based on experience, not a desire
to mock someone in trouble.

Marsha, I do not appreciate your giving me the kind of answer I could have
gotten from any self-righteous jerk on the street. I really want to know if
anyone has any experience with Meridia, if it worked for them, if it hurt
them in any way. I am on the precipice of a big decision and would like all
the helpful input I can get. I have no idea what is wrong with you that you
think you can talk to a person asking for help the way you just did.

teena said:

Marsha said:

teena said:

My doctor suggested I try Meridia. I am a 42 year old female,
nearly 100 pounds overweight. Does anyone know anything about this
drug?

No, but I do know that eating less and exercising more
works every time - without any side effects.

Marsha/Ohio

That wasn't helpful. You really should be ashamed of yourself. I am
obviously in big trouble here -- big trouble. Obviously I haven't had the
willpower or whatever it takes to "eat less and exercise more" and I am
getting frightened and desperate. My doctor suggested this. I do not like
to take any drugs, but I am afraid for my health. Of course, I have no idea
what Meridia could do to my health and thought someone here might be able to
give me a reasoned, non-abusive response based on experience, not a desire
to mock someone in trouble.

Marsha, I do not appreciate your giving me the kind of answer I could have
gotten from any self-righteous jerk on the street. I really want to know if
anyone has any experience with Meridia, if it worked for them, if it hurt
them in any way. I am on the precipice of a big decision and would like all
the helpful input I can get. I have no idea what is wrong with you that you
think you can talk to a person asking for help the way you just did.

This is the very first sentence on their website:

"Meridia is a prescription medication that's used ALONG
WITH A REDUCED CALORIE DIET (my emphasis) to help
people lose weight and keep it off."

Yes, you're in big trouble, but if you don't have the
willpower to follow a REDUCED CALORIE DIET, no drug in
the world is going to help you.

Marsha/Ohio

Marsha said:

teena said:

Marsha said:

teena wrote:

> My doctor suggested I try Meridia. I am a 42 year old female,
> nearly 100 pounds overweight. Does anyone know anything about this
> drug?
>
>

No, but I do know that eating less and exercising more
works every time - without any side effects.

Marsha/Ohio

That wasn't helpful. You really should be ashamed of yourself. I am
obviously in big trouble here -- big trouble. Obviously I haven't
had the willpower or whatever it takes to "eat less and exercise
more" and I am getting frightened and desperate. My doctor
suggested this. I do not like to take any drugs, but I am afraid
for my health. Of course, I have no idea what Meridia could do to
my health and thought someone here might be able to give me a
reasoned, non-abusive response based on experience, not a desire to
mock someone in trouble.

Marsha, I do not appreciate your giving me the kind of answer I
could have gotten from any self-righteous jerk on the street. I
really want to know if anyone has any experience with Meridia, if it
worked for them, if it hurt them in any way. I am on the precipice
of a big decision and would like all the helpful input I can get. I
have no idea what is wrong with you that you think you can talk to a
person asking for help the way you just did.

This is the very first sentence on their website:

"Meridia is a prescription medication that's used ALONG
WITH A REDUCED CALORIE DIET (my emphasis) to help
people lose weight and keep it off."

Naw, really? So what?

Quoted message said:

Yes, you're in big trouble, but if you don't have the
willpower to follow a REDUCED CALORIE DIET, no drug in
the world is going to help you.

Marsha, what do you think diet drugs do? They reduce your appetite. They
make you eat less. That is how Meridia is supposed to work. I just want to
know if it did, if it reduced anyone's appetite (thus causing them to eat
less and lose weight -- I see you need this spelled out for you) without
causing any terrible side effects. Anyway, I'm killfiling you. I am not
about to give you the sick joy you get from watching people respond to your
nastiness.

Quoted message said:

Marsha/Ohio

Marsha wrote:
:: teena wrote:
::
::: My doctor suggested I try Meridia. I am a 42 year old female,
::: nearly 100 pounds overweight. Does anyone know anything about this
::: drug?
:::

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/Meridia.htm

Why are you in "big trouble"? Have you ever tried a low carb diet? That's
what this group is all about and most people here have had success with it.
It reduces your appetite so it is easier to eat less.

teena wrote:
|
| That wasn't helpful. You really should be ashamed of yourself. I am
| obviously in big trouble here -- big trouble. Obviously I haven't
| had the willpower or whatever it takes to "eat less and exercise
| more" and I am getting frightened and desperate. My doctor suggested
| this. I do not like to take any drugs, but I am afraid for my
| health. Of course, I have no idea what Meridia could do to my health
| and thought someone here might be able to give me a reasoned,
| non-abusive response based on experience, not a desire to mock
| someone in trouble.
|
| Marsha, I do not appreciate your giving me the kind of answer I could
| have gotten from any self-righteous jerk on the street. I really
| want to know if anyone has any experience with Meridia, if it worked
| for them, if it hurt them in any way. I am on the precipice of a big
| decision and would like all the helpful input I can get. I have no
| idea what is wrong with you that you think you can talk to a person
| asking for help the way you just did.

FOB wrote:
:: Why are you in "big trouble"? Have you ever tried a low carb diet?
:: That's what this group is all about and most people here have had
:: success with it. It reduces your appetite so it is easier to eat
:: less.
::

Good point. Is the OP an regular here?

:: teena wrote:
:::
::: That wasn't helpful. You really should be ashamed of yourself. I
::: am obviously in big trouble here -- big trouble. Obviously I
::: haven't had the willpower or whatever it takes to "eat less and
::: exercise more" and I am getting frightened and desperate. My
::: doctor suggested this. I do not like to take any drugs, but I am
::: afraid for my health. Of course, I have no idea what Meridia could
::: do to my health and thought someone here might be able to give me a
::: reasoned, non-abusive response based on experience, not a desire to
::: mock someone in trouble.
:::
::: Marsha, I do not appreciate your giving me the kind of answer I
::: could have gotten from any self-righteous jerk on the street. I
::: really want to know if anyone has any experience with Meridia, if
::: it worked for them, if it hurt them in any way. I am on the
::: precipice of a big decision and would like all the helpful input I
::: can get. I have no idea what is wrong with you that you think you
::: can talk to a person asking for help the way you just did.

Meridia might not help you, but suicide surely would.

Eat less and exercise more, or go kill yourself.

"teena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Marsha said:

teena said:

My doctor suggested I try Meridia. I am a 42 year old female,
nearly 100 pounds overweight. Does anyone know anything about this
drug?

No, but I do know that eating less and exercising more
works every time - without any side effects.

Marsha/Ohio

That wasn't helpful. You really should be ashamed of yourself. I am
obviously in big trouble here -- big trouble. Obviously I haven't had the
willpower or whatever it takes to "eat less and exercise more" and I am
getting frightened and desperate. My doctor suggested this. I do not
like
to take any drugs, but I am afraid for my health. Of course, I have no
idea
what Meridia could do to my health and thought someone here might be able
to
give me a reasoned, non-abusive response based on experience, not a desire
to mock someone in trouble.

Marsha, I do not appreciate your giving me the kind of answer I could have
gotten from any self-righteous jerk on the street. I really want to know
if
anyone has any experience with Meridia, if it worked for them, if it hurt
them in any way. I am on the precipice of a big decision and would like
all
the helpful input I can get. I have no idea what is wrong with you that
you
think you can talk to a person asking for help the way you just did.

Hi Teena,

I tried sibutramine and I think that for me, they are not a "take one a
day for the rest of your diet" pill.

They *help* me controll my appetite the normal way.
It means that I can distincly feel when eating is no longer necessary.

The second effect is "inner sunshine".
I say this because I realized that when there was a beautiful sun over
my town, that I could go on a bike ride and swim,and everything... I
would never feel the need for unnecessary food.

This is what I feel when I take Sibutramine, sometimes. after a meal, I
feel happy. Not THC happy, right ;-) , I just feel warm and ready to go
on on my activities. I am not looking for something else I could
possibly eat while I know I had enough.
I can hear the addiction say "Hey, normally, you should feed me too".
But I just have the control and say "shut up and die", and that's the
end of it.

So the way I use this drug is that I take it only for a few days (4 to
10), when I really feel that weather+mood=bad environment.

The rule I respect is: If I ever binge (low-carb bingieing exists) while
being on the drug, I stop taking it. Anyway, usually, a low-carb
bingeing prevents me from eating during a long period. Without any drug ;-)

3 points I noticed when I take the drug:

- it doesn't work if I don't eat at all
- it doesn't work if I have a very very low carb meal. It has to include
a bit of carbs to suppress appatite.
- works suprisingly better if I exercise . Moderate pace walking or slow
swimming makes me abolutely high when I'm on this drug.

*But*
You have to check your blood pressure very often on te first times that
you take the drug. I bought a blood pressure monitor (I don't know the
english word for it, sorry) especially because I was going to take
sibutramine.
Some people died taking this drug, just because they hadn't followed the
instructions. So one has to ba very careful.

btw: my way of thaking the drug is *not* how it is supposed to be taken.
This is only my experience.
I read somewhere that a study had demonstrated that the drug was
effective even if you would'nt take it every all the time, or something
like that. But do not follow my ways, please 🙂

Anyway, one thing I can tell you is that low carb produces very
interesting effects to, as far as appetite reducing is concerned.
And you are here talking to *real people* who share their experience
with this WOE.

And when Marsha says

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> No, but I do know that eating less and exercising more
> works every time - without any side effects.

She is right.
And the tone is right too, IMHO.

Sometimes, it is important to get hurt by a stranger.

Huey

teena said:

Quoted message said:

Marsha, what do you think diet drugs do? They reduce your appetite.

They make you eat less. That is how Meridia is supposed to work. I
just want to know if it did, if it reduced anyone's appetite (thus
causing them to eat less and lose weight -- I see you need this
spelled out for you) without causing any terrible side effects.
Anyway, I'm killfiling you. I am not about to give you the sick joy
you get from watching people respond to your nastiness.

I can't see where Marsha was nasty to you! Quite frankly she gave you good
advice and you are the one being nasty. She just pointed out a few things
that you seem to be ignoring. If you want appetite suppressed, you can't
do better than low carb because that is just what it does, with no
side effects.

I suppose you will need to killfile me too because I think you are just
being silly. You sound slightly hysterical to me and you need to calm
down. There are those here who have been much more overweight than you.
They have managed to lose weight and be healthy without noxious drugs.

"Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

teena said:

Quoted message said:

Marsha, what do you think diet drugs do? They reduce your appetite.

They make you eat less. That is how Meridia is supposed to work. I
just want to know if it did, if it reduced anyone's appetite (thus
causing them to eat less and lose weight -- I see you need this
spelled out for you) without causing any terrible side effects.
Anyway, I'm killfiling you. I am not about to give you the sick joy
you get from watching people respond to your nastiness.

I can't see where Marsha was nasty to you! Quite frankly she gave you
good advice and you are the one being nasty. She just pointed out a few
things that you seem to be ignoring. If you want appetite suppressed,
you can't do better than low carb because that is just what it does, with
no
side effects.

I suppose you will need to killfile me too because I think you are just
being silly. You sound slightly hysterical to me and you need to calm
down. There are those here who have been much more overweight than you.
They have managed to lose weight and be healthy without noxious drugs.

Marsha's first comment was "Eat less and exercise more" and that was all
she said.
Diane

Hueyduck said:

Hi Teena,

I tried sibutramine and I think that for me, they are not a "take one
a day for the rest of your diet" pill.

They *help* me controll my appetite the normal way.
It means that I can distincly feel when eating is no longer necessary.

The second effect is "inner sunshine".
I say this because I realized that when there was a beautiful sun over
my town, that I could go on a bike ride and swim,and everything... I
would never feel the need for unnecessary food.

This is what I feel when I take Sibutramine, sometimes. after a meal,
I feel happy. Not THC happy, right ;-) , I just feel warm and ready
to go on on my activities. I am not looking for something else I could
possibly eat while I know I had enough.
I can hear the addiction say "Hey, normally, you should feed me too".
But I just have the control and say "shut up and die", and that's the
end of it.

Very interesting and informative.

Quoted message said:

So the way I use this drug is that I take it only for a few days (4 to
10), when I really feel that weather+mood=bad environment.

The rule I respect is: If I ever binge (low-carb bingieing exists)
while being on the drug, I stop taking it. Anyway, usually, a low-carb
bingeing prevents me from eating during a long period. Without any
drug ;-)

3 points I noticed when I take the drug:

- it doesn't work if I don't eat at all
- it doesn't work if I have a very very low carb meal. It has to
include a bit of carbs to suppress appatite.
- works suprisingly better if I exercise . Moderate pace walking or
slow swimming makes me abolutely high when I'm on this drug.

*But*
You have to check your blood pressure very often on te first times
that you take the drug. I bought a blood pressure monitor (I don't
know the english word for it, sorry)

That would be the word! You got it right.

Quoted message said:

especially because I was going
to take sibutramine.
Some people died taking this drug, just because they hadn't followed
the instructions. So one has to ba very careful.

I thought you weren't following the instructions, though.

Quoted message said:

btw: my way of thaking the drug is *not* how it is supposed to be
taken. This is only my experience.
I read somewhere that a study had demonstrated that the drug was
effective even if you would'nt take it every all the time, or
something like that. But do not follow my ways, please 🙂

I appreciate your giving me the info. How much weight have you lost over
how much time?

Quoted message said:

Anyway, one thing I can tell you is that low carb produces very
interesting effects to, as far as appetite reducing is concerned.
And you are here talking to *real people* who share their experience
with this WOE.

And when Marsha says

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> No, but I do know that eating less and exercising more
>> works every time - without any side effects.

She is right.
And the tone is right too, IMHO.

Sometimes, it is important to get hurt by a stranger.

I totally disagree. There was no need for her to be rude. It didn't help
me. It didn't do anything important. No good whatsoever came of it.
Perhaps she enjoyed being rude, but if she did, she really needs to work on
whatever is wrong with her that it makes her happy to hurt others.

Quoted message said:

Huey

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No, but I do know that eating less and exercising more
works every time - without any side effects.

Marsha/Ohio

That wasn't helpful. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

Stop right there! You don't get points for berating somebody who told you a
basic truth.

I am

Quoted message said:

obviously in big trouble here -- big trouble. Obviously I haven't had the
willpower or whatever it takes to "eat less and exercise more" and I am
getting frightened and desperate.

Right! As in "it's not my fault!" said in a whiny voice.

My doctor suggested this. I do not like

Quoted message said:

to take any drugs, but I am afraid for my health. Of course, I have no
idea
what Meridia could do to my health and thought someone here might be able
to
give me a reasoned, non-abusive response based on experience, not a desire
to mock someone in trouble.

She wasn't mocking you. She was trying to give you a clue.

Quoted message said:

Marsha, I do not appreciate your giving me the kind of answer I could have
gotten from any self-righteous jerk on the street. I really want to know
if
anyone has any experience with Meridia, if it worked for them, if it hurt
them in any way. I am on the precipice of a big decision and would like
all
the helpful input I can get. I have no idea what is wrong with you that
you
think you can talk to a person asking for help the way you just did.

Obviously, not only do you not have self-control and self-determination and
willpower, you also lack self-realization.

Pat in TX

Quoted message said:

"Ophelia" , she wants something easy. She wants sympathy. She doesn't want
to have to lift a finger to help herself.

"Teena" is immature, plain and simple.

Pat in TX

Ophelia said:

teena said:

Quoted message said:

Marsha, what do you think diet drugs do? They reduce your appetite.

They make you eat less. That is how Meridia is supposed to work. I
just want to know if it did, if it reduced anyone's appetite (thus
causing them to eat less and lose weight -- I see you need this
spelled out for you) without causing any terrible side effects.
Anyway, I'm killfiling you. I am not about to give you the sick joy
you get from watching people respond to your nastiness.

I can't see where Marsha was nasty to you! Quite frankly she gave
you good advice and you are the one being nasty.

Do you think I haven't heard that advice a million times? Do you honestly
think that? If you do, I pity you.

Quoted message said:

She just pointed
out a few things that you seem to be ignoring.

I am astounded at you. I remember some overweight celebrity -- was it
Oprah? -- laughing about a nutritionist who told her, "When you are hungry,
just eat carrot sticks instead of Twinkies." We all KNOW that. Everyone
KNOWS that. That advice is worthless. I clearly haven't been able to
follow it and to have it thrown in my face yet again was irritating,
especially when that "advice" came from someone on a newsgroup with
"support" in its title.

Quoted message said:

If you want
appetite suppressed, you can't do better than low carb because that
is just what it does, with no
side effects.

That is interesting info.

Quoted message said:

I suppose you will need to killfile me too because I think you are
just being silly.

I may killfile you. So far you have just seemed...naive, maybe ignorant of
what polite behavior should be, but not rude. So far.

Quoted message said:

You sound slightly hysterical to me and you need
to calm down.

Tell me, how well does it work when you tell irritated people that? Is it
effective? Or do they just get offended by you? Who are you to tell me
what to do? I was justifiably irritated with Marsha. If you can't
understand it, fine. If you can and you are just making it worse, shame on
you.

Quoted message said:

There are those here who have been much more
overweight than you. They have managed to lose weight and be healthy
without noxious drugs.

That's great! Why don't you tell me about it? Do you get off on judging me
when I am asking for advice? Why are you so superior?

Pat said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No, but I do know that eating less and exercising more
works every time - without any side effects.

Marsha/Ohio

That wasn't helpful. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

Stop right there! You don't get points for berating somebody who told
you a basic truth.

I am not looking for points. I was looking for advice, for help. Isn't
this supposed to be a "support" newsgroup? Tell me, how well has the advice
"eat less and exercise more" worked for you? Was it an epiphany when you
heard it that changed your life? Or, was it just the same old advice you
had heard all your life from judgmental people that didn't help you one bit?

We all KNOW that is what we are supposed to do. EVERYONE knows that.
Obviously, a lot of us have NOT been able to DO that. I haven't and that is
why I am looking at Meridia.

Marsha was completely unhelpful. She was nasty, too. Ask yourself how you
felt the million times you probably heard someone say that.

Quoted message said:

I am

Quoted message said:

obviously in big trouble here -- big trouble. Obviously I haven't
had the willpower or whatever it takes to "eat less and exercise
more" and I am getting frightened and desperate.

Right! As in "it's not my fault!" said in a whiny voice.

My doctor suggested this. I do not like

Quoted message said:

to take any drugs, but I am afraid for my health. Of course, I have
no idea
what Meridia could do to my health and thought someone here might be
able to
give me a reasoned, non-abusive response based on experience, not a
desire to mock someone in trouble.

She wasn't mocking you. She was trying to give you a clue.

Quoted message said:

Marsha, I do not appreciate your giving me the kind of answer I
could have gotten from any self-righteous jerk on the street. I
really want to know if
anyone has any experience with Meridia, if it worked for them, if it
hurt them in any way. I am on the precipice of a big decision and
would like all
the helpful input I can get. I have no idea what is wrong with you
that you
think you can talk to a person asking for help the way you just did.

Obviously, not only do you not have self-control and
self-determination and willpower, you also lack self-realization.

Pat in TX

Pat said:

"Ophelia" , she wants something easy. She wants sympathy. She doesn't
want to have to lift a finger to help herself.

"Teena" is immature, plain and simple.

Oh, so you think I am immature and looking for sympathy? Funny, I thought I
was looking for information and advice so I could make an informed decision.
I think it's immature to be rude to a newbie who is asking for information
and advice, but I guess you don't.

As for not wanting to lift a finger to help myself, wow, where did you get
that? You don't know me. You don't know what I have done in my life. You
do know that I am considering yet another way of helping myself and am
attempting to learn all I can before I just pop a pill. You think that's
immture and sympathy-seeking. I think that is being cautious and doing some
due diligence.

Quoted message said:

Pat in TX

teena said:

Ophelia said:

teena said:

> Marsha, what do you think diet drugs do? They reduce your
> appetite.
They make you eat less. That is how Meridia is supposed to work. I
just want to know if it did, if it reduced anyone's appetite (thus
causing them to eat less and lose weight -- I see you need this
spelled out for you) without causing any terrible side effects.
Anyway, I'm killfiling you. I am not about to give you the sick joy
you get from watching people respond to your nastiness.

I can't see where Marsha was nasty to you! Quite frankly she gave
you good advice and you are the one being nasty.

Do you think I haven't heard that advice a million times? Do you
honestly think that? If you do, I pity you.

Quoted message said:

She just pointed
out a few things that you seem to be ignoring.

I am astounded at you. I remember some overweight celebrity -- was it
Oprah? -- laughing about a nutritionist who told her, "When you are
hungry, just eat carrot sticks instead of Twinkies." We all KNOW
that. Everyone KNOWS that. That advice is worthless. I clearly
haven't been able to follow it and to have it thrown in my face yet
again was irritating, especially when that "advice" came from someone
on a newsgroup with "support" in its title.

Quoted message said:

If you want
appetite suppressed, you can't do better than low carb because that
is just what it does, with no
side effects.

That is interesting info.

Quoted message said:

I suppose you will need to killfile me too because I think you are
just being silly.

I may killfile you. So far you have just seemed...naive, maybe
ignorant of what polite behavior should be, but not rude. So far.

Quoted message said:

You sound slightly hysterical to me and you need
to calm down.

Tell me, how well does it work when you tell irritated people that?
Is it effective? Or do they just get offended by you? Who are you
to tell me what to do? I was justifiably irritated with Marsha. If
you can't understand it, fine. If you can and you are just making it
worse, shame on you.

Quoted message said:

There are those here who have been much more
overweight than you. They have managed to lose weight and be healthy
without noxious drugs.

That's great! Why don't you tell me about it? Do you get off on
judging me when I am asking for advice? Why are you so superior?