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  1. To demonstrate their commitment to renewable energy etc. many hundreds
    of supporters are cycling from all over the UK to the Climate Camp at
    Heathrow.

    See: http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/bikeride.php

    Just now I have witnessed a group of 20 such cyclists arriving in
    Harlington the nearest village. They looked like a bunch of normal
    cycle tourists - average age low 20s. They were escorted by 4
    uniformed police on mountain bikes - AND no less than SEVEN police
    minibuses full of uniformed police.

    Now THAT's what I call an escort - but a tad waste of tax payer's
    money?

    CJB

  2. CJB said:

    To demonstrate their commitment to renewable energy etc. many hundreds
    of supporters are cycling from all over the UK to the Climate Camp at
    Heathrow.

    See: http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/bikeride.php

    Just now I have witnessed a group of 20 such cyclists arriving in
    Harlington the nearest village. They looked like a bunch of normal
    cycle tourists - average age low 20s. They were escorted by 4
    uniformed police on mountain bikes - AND no less than SEVEN police
    minibuses full of uniformed police.

    Now THAT's what I call an escort - but a tad waste of tax payer's
    money?

    Just checking to see they didn't go through any red lights.

    --
    Mike
    Van Tuyl titanium Dura ace 10
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    Huissoon project bike (in bits, natch)

  3. CJB said:

    To demonstrate their commitment to renewable energy etc. many hundreds
    of supporters are cycling from all over the UK to the Climate Camp at
    Heathrow.

    See:http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/bikeride.php

    Just now I have witnessed a group of 20 such cyclists arriving in
    Harlington the nearest village. They looked like a bunch of normal
    cycle tourists - average age low 20s. They were escorted by 4
    uniformed police on mountain bikes - AND no less than SEVEN police
    minibuses full of uniformed police.

    Now THAT's what I call an escort - but a tad waste of tax payer's
    money?


    Typical of the over policing we are all subjected to. Of course, those
    who stay meekly in their homes or just travel during rush hours never
    see this sort of thing and imagine we live in a crime plagued country
    full of terrorists which requires the protection of vast numbers of
    police. This situation has not been helped by the mass of
    criminalising legislation instigated by Blair's government, which far
    exceeds anything that has ever gone before. Is it any wonder that our
    prisons are full to overlowing?

    --
    UK Radical Campaigns
    www.zing.icom43.net
    One man's democracy is another man's regime.

  4. Doug said:
    CJB said:

    To demonstrate their commitment to renewable energy etc. many hundreds
    of supporters are cycling from all over the UK to the Climate Camp at
    Heathrow.

    See:http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/bikeride.php

    Just now I have witnessed a group of 20 such cyclists arriving in
    Harlington the nearest village. They looked like a bunch of normal
    cycle tourists - average age low 20s. They were escorted by 4
    uniformed police on mountain bikes - AND no less than SEVEN police
    minibuses full of uniformed police.

    Now THAT's what I call an escort - but a tad waste of tax payer's
    money?


    Typical of the over policing we are all subjected to. Of course, those
    who stay meekly in their homes or just travel during rush hours never
    see this sort of thing and imagine we live in a crime plagued country
    full of terrorists which requires the protection of vast numbers of
    police. This situation has not been helped by the mass of
    criminalising legislation instigated by Blair's government, which far
    exceeds anything that has ever gone before. Is it any wonder that our
    prisons are full to overlowing?

    Bring back the death penalty then, that'd free up a few spaces...

    --
    Abo

  5. "CJB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    To demonstrate their commitment to renewable energy etc. many hundreds
    of supporters are cycling from all over the UK to the Climate Camp at
    Heathrow.


    ....

    Quoted message said:

    Just now I have witnessed a group of 20 such cyclists arriving in
    Harlington the nearest village. They looked like a bunch of normal
    cycle tourists - average age low 20s. They were escorted by 4
    uniformed police on mountain bikes - AND no less than SEVEN police
    minibuses full of uniformed police.

    Now THAT's what I call an escort - but a tad waste of tax payer's
    money?

    Absolutely. There should be a way to charge the people at the camp for the
    extra money they have caused to be spent on policing. Of course, there was a
    time when a copper could just keep whacking demonstrators until they were
    quiet enough to drag away, but these days, they have to make sure there are
    enough around to subdue them without too much injury, which needs several
    coppers for every demonstrator taken away.

    Colin Bignell

  6. nightjar' nightjar@insert my surname here.uk.com said:

    Absolutely. There should be a way to charge the people at the camp for the
    extra money they have caused to be spent on policing. [...]

    It's not the campers who have caused the money to be spent on policing. I've
    been told that the staffing levels are the decision of the police. So, we
    should charge the police for the costs of overpolicing these camps!

    Now, can we get some police to crack down on the bad driving around here?

    It was hilarious to hear BAA warning that some of those tourists may
    'disguise' themselves as tourists and enter the airport to leaflet other
    tourists.

    Regards,
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  7. CJB said:

    Now THAT's what I call an escort - but a tad waste of tax payer's
    money?

    The camp at Drax power station in North Yorkshire last year is
    estimated to have cost £3.8 - £4 million to police, JOOI.

    --
    Tony

  8. It's a delicate balance I think. On one hand I think there should be
    more policing as long as there is a need for it. But the judgment on
    what needs to be policed is seriously off balance. I mean families on
    a field making a peaceful point about where they think BAA are going
    wrong is probably not a priority threat.
    Knee-jerk and reactionary policing is not the way forward, but sadly
    it seems that nowadays opinions are increasingly replacing fact. Not
    helped by the media or the governments that (mis) use them.

    Thank you, that is all

    p

  9. On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:39:33 -0000 someone who may be Pete
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    But the judgment on
    what needs to be policed is seriously off balance. I mean families on
    a field making a peaceful point about where they think BAA are going
    wrong is probably not a priority threat.

    People can see what appears to be a deliberate attempt by the police
    to provoke trouble by downloading the video from
    http://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/378267.html

    There is coverage of the camp at
    http://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/actions/2007/climatecamp/ which
    also includes other articles on the police attempt to provoke
    trouble.

    Not content with attempting to intimidate people as they arrive,
    they are now trying to cause trouble on the site. I wonder what they
    will try next, perhaps sending one of their death squads to shoot
    someone seven times in the head on a whim.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh
    I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

  10. "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    . Of course, those
    who stay meekly in their homes

    Like you do ... leaching off the back of real protesters.

  11. Gizmo. said:

    "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    . Of course, those
    who stay meekly in their homes

    Like you do ... leaching off the back of real protesters.

    Liar! I was at the camp on Sunday and Monday facing off the police
    intimidaters. And what have you been doing, hypocrite?

    --
    UK Radical Campaigns
    www.zing.icom43.net
    Travel broadens the damage.

  12. David Hansen said:

    People can see what appears to be a deliberate attempt by the police
    to provoke trouble by downloading the video from
    http://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/378267.html

    Is that a wind turbine the protestors have about 4/5 of the way into
    the video clip?

  13. Doug said:
    Gizmo. said:

    "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    . Of course, those
    who stay meekly in their homes

    Like you do ... leaching off the back of real protesters.

    Liar! I was at the camp on Sunday and Monday facing off the police
    intimidaters. And what have you been doing, hypocrite?

    There's that word that Doug doesn't understand again.

  14. Doug said:
    Gizmo. said:

    "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    . Of course, those
    who stay meekly in their homes


    Like you do ... leaching off the back of real protesters.

    Liar! I was at the camp on Sunday and Monday facing off the police
    intimidaters. And what have you been doing, hypocrite?

    How did you get there?

  15. Doug said:
    Gizmo. said:

    "Doug" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    . Of course, those
    who stay meekly in their homes

    Like you do ... leaching off the back of real protesters.

    Liar! I was at the camp on Sunday and Monday facing off the police
    intimidaters. And what have you been doing, hypocrite?

    Hypocrite - a person driving a vehicle to a climate camp.....

  16. Tom Crispin said:
    David Hansen said:

    People can see what appears to be a deliberate attempt by the police
    to provoke trouble by downloading the video from
    http://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/378267.html

    Is that a wind turbine the protestors have about 4/5 of the way into
    the video clip?

    Love the bit about forcing the police to *tune* back and the protester
    who super *clued* herself to a gate. So was this item written by the
    Duhgster or the policeman from TV's Hello, Hello?

    --
    Ian Edwards

  17. cupra said:

    Hypocrite - a person driving a vehicle to a climate camp.....

    Hahaha, thanks for pointing that out. Oh the irony. My point again:
    Opinion replacing Fact. "I think I have protest for the sake of
    protesting, therefore I take my car there ignoring the fact it's part
    of what I am protesting about."

  18. CJB said:

    To demonstrate their commitment to renewable energy etc. many hundreds
    of supporters are cycling from all over the UK to the Climate Camp at
    Heathrow.

    See:http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/bikeride.php

    I wonder just how many cars/vans were driven to the climate camp to
    set all the stuff up. Demonstrations are pointless in modern society.
    The public are aware of the problems, the politicians and companies
    are too. They wont change becuase of a demonstration, they change
    because of public pressure, since the public are already aware of the
    problems all you are going to do is cheese the public off because you
    have inconvenienced them. I'm all for green-ness, but people
    disrupting everyday working citizens make me hang my head and want to
    go the other way. What an embarrassment to the cause these people are.

  19. CoyoteBoy said:
    CJB said:

    To demonstrate their commitment to renewable energy etc. many hundreds
    of supporters are cycling from all over the UK to the Climate Camp at
    Heathrow.

    See:http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/bikeride.php

    I wonder just how many cars/vans were driven to the climate camp to
    set all the stuff up. Demonstrations are pointless in modern society.

    Of course they are not pointless. how else can you have a "festival" or
    a new age travellers gathering without calling it a "demonstration"?

  20. Quoted message said:

    Of course they are not pointless. how else can you have a "festival" or
    a new age travellers gathering without calling it a "demonstration"?

    🙂

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