Help, please

merryb said:

Ok, I need help! I've been reading all the complaints about Google, so
can someone kindly point me to a different source so I can participate
without Google? Excuse my ignorance, but using a computer is still
pretty new to me, and this is all I know!! I'm still trying to learn,
and most of you are very helpful. Someone had posted about a free
server the other day, but I can't remember where it was!! If someone
can help me out a little, then I can get away from your beloved
Google🙂 Thanks!!

See the topic: Sorta OT: My ISP has dropped RFC (by Damsel)

Seem to recall that some posters mentioned:
http://motzarella.org/
and
http://aioe.org/

Good luck.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Quoted message said:

Seem to recall that some posters mentioned:http://motzarella.org/
andhttp://aioe.org/

Good luck.

Thank you, Cathy- soon you will hear from a new & improved version!!

Quoted message said:

You could try the server news.motzarella.org; it allows posting, but
doesn't carry binary (image) groups. I've been using it for over a year
now and am quite happy with it. You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, and you have to provide
a valid email address in order for your membership to be verified.
Here's a link to the website where you can sign up:

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

HTH 🙂

Thank you- I did just that, now I have to find where the groups are! I
sure wish I had more experience with all this, but I guess you gotta
learn somehow!!

flitterbit said:

You could try the server news.motzarella.org; it allows posting, but
doesn't carry binary (image) groups. I've been using it for over a year
now and am quite happy with it. You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, and you have to provide
a valid email address in order for your membership to be verified.
Here's a link to the website where you can sign up:

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

You can use any posting email address that you'd like with
motzarella - It does not have to be valid (emailable). You do
need a real email address to sign up, though. And you will to
use the username you choose during registration - but that's not
posted with any of your posts (or rather, it's encryptyed).

IOW: Use any email address you'd like in your news software, but
use the correct username as a login to the news server.

-sw

merryb said:

Quoted message said:

You could try the server news.motzarella.org; it allows posting, but
doesn't carry binary (image) groups. I've been using it for over a year
now and am quite happy with it. You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, and you have to provide
a valid email address in order for your membership to be verified.
Here's a link to the website where you can sign up:

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

HTH 🙂

Thank you- I did just that, now I have to find where the groups are! I
sure wish I had more experience with all this, but I guess you gotta
learn somehow!!

The posts are on what is called an NNTP server and aren't accessible via
your web browser.

To access them you need a newsreader program. I like Thunderbird which
is a free download from www.mozilla.com.

If you choose it then download and install it and have a look at this to
set it up:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Joining_newsgroups

merryb said:

Ok, I need help! I've been reading all the complaints about Google, so
can someone kindly point me to a different source so I can participate
without Google? Excuse my ignorance, but using a computer is still
pretty new to me, and this is all I know!! I'm still trying to learn,
and most of you are very helpful. Someone had posted about a free
server the other day, but I can't remember where it was!! If someone
can help me out a little, then I can get away from your beloved
Google🙂 Thanks!!

You could try the server news.motzarella.org; it allows posting, but
doesn't carry binary (image) groups. I've been using it for over a year
now and am quite happy with it. You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, and you have to provide
a valid email address in order for your membership to be verified.
Here's a link to the website where you can sign up:

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

HTH 🙂

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:47:45 -0500, flitterbit <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Steve Wertz said:

IOW: Use any email address you'd like in your news software, but
use the correct username as a login to the news server.

-sw

Sorry; I wasn't clear enough -- thanks for expanding.

What do you plan to use for a news reader?

--

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marks

"flitterbit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

merryb said:

Ok, I need help! I've been reading all the complaints about Google, so
can someone kindly point me to a different source so I can participate
without Google? Excuse my ignorance, but using a computer is still
pretty new to me, and this is all I know!! I'm still trying to learn,
and most of you are very helpful. Someone had posted about a free
server the other day, but I can't remember where it was!! If someone
can help me out a little, then I can get away from your beloved
Google🙂 Thanks!!

You could try the server news.motzarella.org; it allows posting, but
doesn't carry binary (image) groups. I've been using it for over a year
now and am quite happy with it. You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, and you have to provide a
valid email address in order for your membership to be verified. Here's a
link to the website where you can sign up:

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

HTH 🙂

Re your:
"You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, ..."

I don't understand what a throwaway email address is and how it is used.
Also don't understand "doesn't allow munging..."

Thanks,
Dee Dee, who uses motzarella.

Steve Wertz said:

flitterbit said:

You could try the server news.motzarella.org; it allows posting, but
doesn't carry binary (image) groups. I've been using it for over a year
now and am quite happy with it. You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, and you have to provide
a valid email address in order for your membership to be verified.
Here's a link to the website where you can sign up:

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

You can use any posting email address that you'd like with
motzarella - It does not have to be valid (emailable). You do
need a real email address to sign up, though. And you will to
use the username you choose during registration - but that's not
posted with any of your posts (or rather, it's encryptyed).

IOW: Use any email address you'd like in your news software, but
use the correct username as a login to the news server.

-sw

Sorry; I wasn't clear enough -- thanks for expanding.

merryb said:

Quoted message said:

You could try the server news.motzarella.org; it allows posting, but
doesn't carry binary (image) groups. I've been using it for over a year
now and am quite happy with it. You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, and you have to provide
a valid email address in order for your membership to be verified.
Here's a link to the website where you can sign up:

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

HTH 🙂

Thank you- I did just that, now I have to find where the groups are! I
sure wish I had more experience with all this, but I guess you gotta
learn somehow!!

As far as I'm aware, motzarella.org doesn't have Web-based groups the
way Google has.

I read Usenet with Thunderbird, my email program, and download the
messages from motzarella.org's server directly into Thunderbird.
Outlook Express can also serve as a news reader and, if I recall
correctly, its help files give pretty good instructions about setting up
news accounts.

Other people prefer dedicated news clients such as Forte Agent, but I
haven't used any of them so can't give any kind of recommendation.

With both Outlook Express and Thunderbird you create a news account (in
Thunderbird, click Tools then Account Settings then Add Account and then
follow the remaining instructions), choose which newsgroups to subscribe
to, and then download the messages. Both programs support multiple news
accounts, and each news server counts as a separate news account.

George said:

merryb said:

Quoted message said:

You could try the server news.motzarella.org; it allows posting, but
doesn't carry binary (image) groups. I've been using it for over a year
now and am quite happy with it. You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, and you have to provide
a valid email address in order for your membership to be verified.
Here's a link to the website where you can sign up:

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

HTH 🙂

Thank you- I did just that, now I have to find where the groups are! I
sure wish I had more experience with all this, but I guess you gotta
learn somehow!!

The posts are on what is called an NNTP server and aren't accessible via
your web browser.

To access them you need a newsreader program. I like Thunderbird which
is a free download from www.mozilla.com.

If you choose it then download and install it and have a look at this to
set it up:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Joining_newsgroups

Thanks for the link; I'm sure it'll give a better explanation of how to
do things than I did 😉

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:27:11 -0400, "Dee Dee" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Re your:
"You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, ..."

I don't understand what a throwaway email address is and how it is used.
Also don't understand "doesn't allow munging..."

Thanks,
Dee Dee, who uses motzarella.

For instance, my return email address (sf.usenet etc) is a throw away
dedicated to news groups only. I check it occasionally so it's not a
complete throw away, but if it gets any spam - c'est la vie and that's
why I set it up. Check a box, "report spam"... [censored] it's gone.

Your isp probably allows multiple mailboxes, but there are lots of
free web based email addresses too - yahoo, gmail, hotmail etc.

--

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marks

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:01:07 -0500, flitterbit <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

sf said:

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:47:45 -0500, flitterbit <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Steve Wertz wrote:
> IOW: Use any email address you'd like in your news software, but
> use the correct username as a login to the news server.
>
> -sw
>
Sorry; I wasn't clear enough -- thanks for expanding.

What do you plan to use for a news reader?

????? I already have a newsreader and am not the person asking for
assistance.

I should have said "what do you use for a news reader" because she's
going to need suggestions.

--

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marks

sf said:

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:47:45 -0500, flitterbit <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Steve Wertz said:

IOW: Use any email address you'd like in your news software, but
use the correct username as a login to the news server.

-sw

Sorry; I wasn't clear enough -- thanks for expanding.

What do you plan to use for a news reader?

????? I already have a newsreader and am not the person asking for
assistance.

Dee Dee said:

"flitterbit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

merryb said:

Ok, I need help! I've been reading all the complaints about Google, so
can someone kindly point me to a different source so I can participate
without Google? Excuse my ignorance, but using a computer is still
pretty new to me, and this is all I know!! I'm still trying to learn,
and most of you are very helpful. Someone had posted about a free
server the other day, but I can't remember where it was!! If someone
can help me out a little, then I can get away from your beloved
Google🙂 Thanks!!

You could try the server news.motzarella.org; it allows posting, but
doesn't carry binary (image) groups. I've been using it for over a year
now and am quite happy with it. You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, and you have to provide a
valid email address in order for your membership to be verified. Here's a
link to the website where you can sign up:

http://www.motzarella.org/?language=en&showpage=home

HTH 🙂

Re your:
"You might want to use a throwaway email
address with it since it doesn't allow munging, ..."

I don't understand what a throwaway email address is and how it is used.
Also don't understand "doesn't allow munging..."

Thanks,
Dee Dee, who uses motzarella.

By "throwaway" I meant an email account one might use as a spam trap,
ie, an account you don't care much about. Some people use Hotmail for
this, others use gmail, etc.

"munging" is making up an email address, say something like
[email hidden], also as a spam trap.

merryb said:

Ok, I need help! I've been reading all the complaints about Google, so
can someone kindly point me to a different source so I can participate
without Google? Excuse my ignorance, but using a computer is still
pretty new to me, and this is all I know!! I'm still trying to learn,
and most of you are very helpful. Someone had posted about a free
server the other day, but I can't remember where it was!! If someone
can help me out a little, then I can get away from your beloved
Google🙂 Thanks!!

You need to find out whether "Juno" offers "news groups" my isp, ISP.com
does, for the same price as juno. tens of thousands of news groups of
which rec.food.cooking is but one.

Then its just a matter of configuring a browser to your service
providers NNTP mine is simply news.isp.com and then you can read news
groups in your own browser rather than going through google or yahoo.

This results in quicker postings, more tools to deal with text editing
and an ability to control what you see on your browser, which you cant
do with google or yahoo.

I was talking to a person the other day who was not sure what a
"browser" is, if you are that new to computers....

My isp did not provide me with a browser, i use the free netscape
browser but there are several others to choose from, all free.

Let me know if you need any more information.
--
Joseph Littleshoes

merryb said:

Ok, I need help! I've been reading all the complaints about Google, so
can someone kindly point me to a different source so I can participate
without Google? Excuse my ignorance, but using a computer is still
pretty new to me, and this is all I know!! I'm still trying to learn,
and most of you are very helpful. Someone had posted about a free
server the other day, but I can't remember where it was!! If someone
can help me out a little, then I can get away from your beloved
Google🙂 Thanks!!

You will need not only a newsserver, but also a newsreader, and you will
need to learn how to configure it. For this kind of questions, I highly
recommend <news:news.newusers.questions>, a newsgroup dedicated to
helping people new to Usenet.

Victor

Quoted message said:

I should have said "what do you use for a news reader" because she's
going to need suggestions.

You aren't kidding!!! You folks are great, and I really appreciate
your help. I'm really going to have to study this-I'm getting nowhere!
I tried the Motzarella, and all the info is in German! I did have a
little success with outlook, but it doesn't seem very user friendly,
at least to my little feeble brain. But I DO resolve to get thru this.
Sad, huh? I bet I could get my 9 year old to help me, but I'll ask the
hubby. I was trying to figure this out on my own so I could learn
something, but most of it is Greek to me.

merryb said:

Quoted message said:

I should have said "what do you use for a news reader" because she's
going to need suggestions.

You aren't kidding!!! You folks are great, and I really appreciate
your help. I'm really going to have to study this-I'm getting nowhere!
I tried the Motzarella, and all the info is in German! I did have a
little success with outlook, but it doesn't seem very user friendly,
at least to my little feeble brain. But I DO resolve to get thru this.
Sad, huh? I bet I could get my 9 year old to help me, but I'll ask the
hubby. I was trying to figure this out on my own so I could learn
something, but most of it is Greek to me.

I would recommend downloading the Netscape browser, but then you have to
configure it, not hard but it does help to know what you are doing.

download at

http://browser.netscape.com/

And check the "system requirements" page just so you get the right one,
there is a Mac as well as a PC version.
--
JL