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  1. Does anyone know if there are going to be any modifications to the '08
    kh or will it be the same as the '07?
    Also, once online unicycle stores get the KH back in stock, how long
    will they be in stock for? Is it odd right now that almost everywhere
    is out or is that pretty much the norm?
    I'm debating on wether or not I will buy one soon(ish) or hold off till
    08.

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  2. But it was a while ago. Maybe search for danger uni posts. I haven't
    read anything about other new models. It seems like uni is getting more
    popular. I would try to get something I wanted as soon as I could. Some
    places have run out of torkers. It seems like KH stock came in around
    March, and lasted to what... June or so. Since so much is new for 07
    and sold well, I would guess it won't change for a year or so. But I
    don't actually know anything. From the last post I read, it seems like
    we could get the KH geared hub, and also a new 36 from Coker tire.
    Maybe even this summer.🙂

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  3. I cant even think of anything he can change on the 07 version. If
    anything, it would be the seat post, but everything else, I cant see
    much more change going into it.

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  4. I'd be surprised if it was much different since the current uni is
    pretty well dialed-in. Also, I think Kris once mentioned that changes
    were going to be incremental instead of having big model year changes.

    Additionally, details of new models are often not released before
    availablity since doing so hurts sales of the current model.

    I would like to see a different color though (not that I don't like the
    Blue, only that there's too many blue unicycles now).

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  5. The KH29 frame really needs a longer seat tube. It's impossible to move
    the seat from a height for muni on the 150mm crank setting to a height
    for road riding on the 125mm setting without switching to a longer
    seatpost.

    that's my random comment about improving the kh unis...

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  6. I'm sure the frame is dialed in to fit the average sized rider. If
    you're taller than normal- get a longer seatpost. I don't think it
    should be any taller than it is now. It means having to take more off
    with a hacksaw :p

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  7. GizmoDuck said:

    I'm sure the frame is dialed in to fit the average sized rider. If
    you're taller than normal- get a longer seatpost. I don't think it
    should be any taller than it is now. It means having to take more off
    with a hacksaw :p

    Ken, I think he means since the seat tube isn't long enough, there
    isn't enough adjustability to allow comfortable settings for both 125mm
    cranks and 150mm cranks. That doesn't have anything to do with the
    seat post length...you can only change that once :p

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  8. yes, but you would still only need 25mm of adjustability if you had the
    correct sized seatpost for your height.

    Ken

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  9. I think there won't be any revisions to major components except for the
    new geared hub until '09, at least.

    Kris said the geared hub may be out this fall :o , but may take until
    spring '08, or longer🙁. They will be ready when they are ready.

    I think a reinforced seatpost for the 20 is likely, since it is
    _*badly_*_needed (IMO one like the new Qu-Ax, but made of aluminum
    would work well, maybe front and back and/or a gusset, like the
    reinforcement on the '07 DX's). Some also have problems w/ the bike
    type post, so that one should be reinforced where the post meats the
    rail clamps, but less urgent than the 20's post.

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  10. banjo_gun_snake_wheels said:

    Is it odd right now that almost everywhere is out or is that pretty much
    the norm?

    Well, the reason everywhere is out of stock is because they all get it
    from the same source, UDC. Once UDC runs out, none of the bike shops or
    online stores will have any stock to ship.

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  11. I think that the KH seat posts and the KH seats need to be altered
    majorly. I break a seat stiffener within a week. I go through a seat
    post about every month... If somehow those could be changed, then
    everything would be good. 🙂

    KH.

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  12. all great posts so far, thanks everyone.

    I'm still wondering if I should order one as soon as they are available
    again. My main problem is that I'm a college student and only work 20
    hours a week, so it takes a while to save up. I don't like using my
    credit card, but I may have to make an exception.

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  13. Brian O. said:

    Well, the reason everywhere is out of stock is because they all get it
    from the same source, UDC. Once UDC runs out, none of the bike shops or
    online stores will have any stock to ship.

    i thought udc was not the source, but that everyone in the US gets them
    from the same source, that mainly deals with UDC

    anyways, email AEBIKE about pricing and holding one for you, the
    current shipment could very well be bought out already but i believe
    the non-advertised price that AE bike has is the cheapest.

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  14. i think that the seat post tube were it connects to the crown at should
    be stronger...
    i saw a guy at naucc break his frame right there on a step over..

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  15. skrobo said:

    anyways, email AEBIKE about pricing and holding one for you, the current
    shipment could very well be bought out already but i believe the
    non-advertised price that AE bike has is the cheapest.

    I tried that, they said they wont hold them for anyone.

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  16. GizmoDuck said:

    yes, but you would still only need 25mm of adjustability if you had the
    correct sized seatpost for your height.

    Unless of course you like to ride muni with your seat relatively low.

    I have the same issue with the seat tube not being long enough on my
    KH20. When using it for freestyle I want the seat set relatively high,
    but for trials I like to drop it quite low. Even though I use the same
    crank length for both styles the seat height gets adjusted quite a bit.
    I've tried to optimize for both styles but have found if the post is
    short enough to go down as far as I want for trials then it doesn't go
    as high as I would like for freestyle.

    A longer seat tube would solve this problem but would also mean the
    unicycle was not usable by shorter riders without cutting it. A
    solution would be to offer both options but I imagine that would be
    costly. I wonder if it is possible to get an existing KH frame
    modified to have a longer seat tube?

    I had this done with my steel miyata frame but I image an aluminium KH
    would be quite a different project.

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  17. 'Unicyclepa frame design' (http://tinyurl.com/2fk7ce) and Qu-ax style
    seatpost 21484 would be nice upgrade for -08 KH
    unicycles.

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  18. peter.bier said:

    Unless of course you like to ride muni with your seat relatively low.

    I have the same issue with the seat tube not being long enough on my
    KH20. When using it for freestyle I want the seat set relatively high,
    but for trials I like to drop it quite low. Even though I use the same
    crank length for both styles the seat height gets adjusted quite a bit.
    I've tried to optimize for both styles but have found if the post is
    short enough to go down as far as I want for trials then it doesn't go
    as high as I would like for freestyle.

    A longer seat tube would solve this problem but would also mean the
    unicycle was not usable by shorter riders without cutting it. A
    solution would be to offer both options but I imagine that would be
    costly. I wonder if it is possible to get an existing KH frame
    modified to have a longer seat tube?

    I had this done with my steel miyata frame but I image an aluminium KH
    would be quite a different project.

    Cutting it shorter is easy, so KH probably should make it to suit the
    taller riders. It would be nice to have the vertical slot longer so
    that for riders who have to chop their seattube, the don't have to cut
    the verticle slot as well.

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  19. I only know of one modification to the '08 KH line, and that's the tire
    on the 29". Kris is using an '08 29er tire right now, and he told me
    they would be on the '08 KH. I think its made by WTB but I don't
    remember the name, it should be wider than the current tires.

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  20. GizmoDuck said:

    yes, but you would still only need 25mm of adjustability if you had the
    correct sized seatpost for your height.

    You are right that for the difference in crank length you would need 25
    mm. But for the change in riding style (from MUni to road riding) you
    would want the seat to be higher still, probably by at least a couple
    of inches. I don't know about the KH29 but the combined requirement
    might be more than the seat tube length allows for.

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