Bronze plaque on Fan-y-Big?

In message <[email hidden]>, Nick Pedley
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While up on Fan-y-Big I spotted a small, A4-sized, metal plaque with an
engraving of three people walking up a hill. This is very near the Diving
Board posing rock.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07029.jpg

Anybody know what the story is?

Nick

Fairly recently, a well known and highly respected local walker suffered
a heart attack and died on Fan-y-Big.

I've no idea what that plaque means / commemorates,. but this could be
the reason.
--
Bill Grey

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While up on Fan-y-Big I spotted a small, A4-sized, metal plaque with an
engraving of three people walking up a hill. This is very near the Diving
Board posing rock.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07029.jpg

Aren't they annoying? Should be removed asap.

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Martin Richardson
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88/211 Irish Hewitts - 123, it's easy 42/220 Corbetts - only 81% to go

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In message <[email hidden]>, Nick Pedley
<[email hidden]> writes

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While up on Fan-y-Big I spotted a small, A4-sized, metal plaque with an
engraving of three people walking up a hill. This is very near the Diving
Board posing rock.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07029.jpg

Aren't they annoying? Should be removed asap.

I agree posers on diving board rocks are really annoying. Creep up
behind them and shouting boo seems to solve the menace 😉

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In message <[email hidden]>, Nick Pedley
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While up on Fan-y-Big I spotted a small, A4-sized, metal plaque with an
engraving of three people walking up a hill. This is very near the Diving
Board posing rock.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07029.jpg

Aren't they annoying? Should be removed asap.

That is your opinion - I think your attitude is disrespectful.
--
Bill Grey

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That is your opinion - I think your attitude is disrespectful.

And mine too, but disrespectful to whom?

Assuming that this is yet another memorial to a departed person or
persons, not rawlplugged, with permission, to the inside wall of church,
school, masonic hall or other place where the deceased's memory is
likely to be warm, why do people think themselves entitled to stick
their mawk up all over the place?

Richard

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That is your opinion - I think your attitude is disrespectful.

And mine too, but disrespectful to whom?

It so happens that the person who died on Fan-y-Big last year has been
commemorated somewhere else - this is NOT his memorial.

I've not idea who installed the plaque so the discussion is ended.
--
Bill Grey

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That is your opinion - I think your attitude is disrespectful.

And mine too, but disrespectful to whom?

I don't think anyone is disrespecting the person who died, the objection is
to placing plaques and monuments on the hills. There have been a
proliferation of these in recent years, particularly in Snowdonia I've
heard, and they've even had to start taking action to stop this sort of
thing.

Placing a monument in the hills to someone who loved the hills is all very
well in principle, but when too many people do it, the hills get covered in
these things. And the main appeal of the hills is that they are ostensibly
wild places, with no trace of man, places where you can get away from
civilisation. If you fill up the wild places with plaques and memorials and
paths and fences and signposts and so on, it gets to the point that it's no
longer wilderness. So then where do you go to get away from it all?

There won't be any wild places left in the UK at this rate. Why can't people
just leave it alone? Why are people so obsessed with changing it and fixing
it and leaving stuff there?

Paul
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I don't think anyone is disrespecting the person who died, the objection is
to placing plaques and monuments on the hills. There have been a
proliferation of these in recent years, particularly in Snowdonia I've
heard, and they've even had to start taking action to stop this sort of
thing.

Placing a monument in the hills to someone who loved the hills is all very
well in principle, but when too many people do it, the hills get covered in
these things. And the main appeal of the hills is that they are ostensibly
wild places, with no trace of man, places where you can get away from
civilisation. If you fill up the wild places with plaques and memorials and
paths and fences and signposts and so on, it gets to the point that it's no
longer wilderness. So then where do you go to get away from it all?

There won't be any wild places left in the UK at this rate. Why can't people
just leave it alone? Why are people so obsessed with changing it and fixing
it and leaving stuff there?

It was, as yet, uncorroborated assumption that it was for a local
walker.

This subject give scope for verbose responses but in fact AFAIK there is
only ONE plaque - the one mentioned - and that may not be a remembrance
thing at all.

Do we need all this speculative narrative about the countyside being
covered with these things when in fact it is not.
--
Bill Grey

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In message <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
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I don't think anyone is disrespecting the person who died, the objection
is
to placing plaques and monuments on the hills. There have been a
proliferation of these in recent years, particularly in Snowdonia I've
heard, and they've even had to start taking action to stop this sort of
thing.

Placing a monument in the hills to someone who loved the hills is all very
well in principle, but when too many people do it, the hills get covered
in
these things. And the main appeal of the hills is that they are ostensibly
wild places, with no trace of man, places where you can get away from
civilisation. If you fill up the wild places with plaques and memorials
and
paths and fences and signposts and so on, it gets to the point that it's
no
longer wilderness. So then where do you go to get away from it all?

There won't be any wild places left in the UK at this rate. Why can't
people
just leave it alone? Why are people so obsessed with changing it and
fixing
it and leaving stuff there?

It was, as yet, uncorroborated assumption that it was for a local walker.

This subject give scope for verbose responses but in fact AFAIK there is
only ONE plaque - the one mentioned - and that may not be a remembrance
thing at all.

Do we need all this speculative narrative about the countyside being
covered with these things when in fact it is not.

Because it's too late when it is? There is a permanent(ish) memorial on top
of Cat Bells (or was) which I object to. As it happens I scattered both my
parent's ashes up there but we got off the top ad went round the side
overlooking the lake to a bit that was too steep to picnic and scattered
them in the long grass, leaving no permanent mark (or any at all after a
couple of days). On a return trip, not only was the memorial still there but
someone had clearly scattered ashes on the top, where people walk. I find
both that action and the memorial disrespectful to other visitors. The place
is its own memorial and is special to those who care (such as myself)
without foreign gee-gaws left lying about or shoving it in other people's
faces. Memorials may commemorate a great person and a fine life but, in the
wrong place, are mostly litter nonetheless.

--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)

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Do we need all this speculative narrative about the countyside being
covered with these things when in fact it is not.

I have not visited Wales for more than forty years, so I cannot comment
about the state of the Welsh countryside, but here in Scotland the
wretched things ARE proliferating, and by no means all of them
commemorate people who died near-by, or even climbers. After
considerable debate and soul searching the top of Ben Nevis has been
cleared of all, except the Peace Cairn (erected in 1945(?6), at the time
of a "peace & reconciliation" visit of a group of German children to
Fort William, and still regarded as untouchable), but new ones are still
put up most weeks, according to the Highland Council's Head Ranger in
the Nevis area.

Richard

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In message <[email hidden]>, Nick Pedley
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While up on Fan-y-Big I spotted a small, A4-sized, metal plaque with an
engraving of three people walking up a hill. This is very near the Diving
Board posing rock.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07029.jpg

Aren't they annoying? Should be removed asap.

That is your opinion - I think your attitude is disrespectful.

Do we really want to change our hills into crematoria and graveyards?
There seems to be more and more of these plaques planted around.

--
Martin Richardson
664/1554 Marilyns - aiming for 777 71/118 New Donalds - only 40% to go
88/211 Irish Hewitts - 123, it's easy 42/220 Corbetts - only 81% to go

In message <[email hidden]>, Martin Richardson
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In message <[email hidden]>, Bill Grey
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In message <[email hidden]>, Nick Pedley
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>While up on Fan-y-Big I spotted a small, A4-sized, metal plaque with an
>engraving of three people walking up a hill. This is very near the Diving
>Board posing rock.
>
>http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07029.jpg
>
Aren't they annoying? Should be removed asap.

That is your opinion - I think your attitude is disrespectful.

Do we really want to change our hills into crematoria and graveyards?
There seems to be more and more of these plaques planted around.

One swallow does not a summer make !
--
Bill Grey

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In message <[email hidden]>, Martin Richardson
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In message <[email hidden]>, Martin Richardson
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>In message <[email hidden]>, Nick Pedley
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>>While up on Fan-y-Big I spotted a small, A4-sized, metal plaque with an
>>engraving of three people walking up a hill.

Small? A4 is huge

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>>http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07029.jpg
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>Aren't they annoying? Should be removed asap.
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That is your opinion - I think your attitude is disrespectful.

It is disrepectful of my right to enjoy the countryside unadorned by
such tat.

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Do we really want to change our hills into crematoria and graveyards?
There seems to be more and more of these plaques planted around.

One swallow does not a summer make !

One snowflake means it has snowed.

Get rid of the things. They have no right to be there. Oh and whilst
we are at it get rid of all those cai^H^H^Hpiles of stones.
--
Phil Cook, last hill: Angletarn Pikes via Beda Fell.
http://www.p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk/May07/martin9.htm

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In message <[email hidden]>, Martin Richardson
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>In message <[email hidden]>, Nick
>Pedley <[email hidden]> writes
>>While up on Fan-y-Big I spotted a small, A4-sized, metal plaque with an
>>engraving of three people walking up a hill. This is very near the Diving
>>Board posing rock.
>>
>>http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07029.jpg
>>
>Aren't they annoying? Should be removed asap.
>
>

That is your opinion - I think your attitude is disrespectful.

Do we really want to change our hills into crematoria and graveyards?
There seems to be more and more of these plaques planted around.

One swallow does not a summer make !

One turkey does a lot of gobbling

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Martin Richardson
664/1554 Marilyns - aiming for 777 71/118 New Donalds - only 40% to go
88/211 Irish Hewitts - 123, it's easy 42/220 Corbetts - only 81% to go

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In message <[email hidden]>, Nick Pedley
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While up on Fan-y-Big I spotted a small, A4-sized, metal plaque with an
engraving of three people walking up a hill. This is very near the Diving
Board posing rock.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z181/Baloonick/Walking/July07029.jpg

Aren't they annoying? Should be removed asap.

I found very inobtrusive, quite well made, an interesting design and am
merely asking WHY IS IT THERE? WHO PUT IT THERE? etc.

I didn't invite the lot of you to start a slanging match about the rights
and wrongs of placing such things. I asked for information, not opinions.

BTW, if this one is so offensive then why are there so few mentions of it on
Google? Because people haven't seen it?

Nick

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"Nick Pedley" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I found very inobtrusive, quite well made, an interesting design and am
merely asking WHY IS IT THERE? WHO PUT IT THERE? etc.

I didn't invite the lot of you to start a slanging match about the rights
and wrongs of placing such things. I asked for information, not opinions.

....and because there seems to be a lack of information you got opinions.
Hardly abnormal for urw! have you been living on a different planet?

Graham

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I found very inobtrusive, quite well made, an interesting design and am
merely asking WHY IS IT THERE? WHO PUT IT THERE? etc.

If we told you that, we'd have to kill you. 8>.

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8,963 Km walked. 1,746Km PROWs surveyed. 31.7% complete.

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"Nick Pedley" <[email hidden]>

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I found very inobtrusive, quite well made, an interesting design and am
merely asking WHY IS IT THERE? WHO PUT IT THERE? etc.

Quoted message said:

I didn't invite the lot of you to start a slanging match about the rights
and wrongs of placing such things. I asked for information, not opinions.

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BTW, if this one is so offensive then why are there so few mentions of it on
Google? Because people haven't seen it?

And why shouldn't people be free to offer their opinions and start a
discussion on the pros and cons or reasons of anything any thread
brings up?

--
Simon Challands

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
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I found very inobtrusive, quite well made, an interesting design and am
merely asking WHY IS IT THERE? WHO PUT IT THERE? etc.

If we told you that, we'd have to kill you. 8>.

I know I saw some helicopters overflying Brecon but I don't think they were
black. Hang on, there's some men in black knocking at the door....
;-)

Nick

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