-- Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply - "Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning" - Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel
The best option is to let him continue the race. Win it--and then get disqualified. Then there can be the beginning of a streak of having no winner for le Tour. In just a few more years of this nonsense "no winner" will surpass LA's 7 straight and will be the new record holder.
[censored] and moan. He can't easily take the hard line he insisted on, now can he? I mean ASO is a for profit company and the tour is half over. He'd be cutting his own purse strings. Nothing will be done until Rasmussen is out of contention. He'll either fall off his bike seven times in the TT to beat his own TdF record and drop out of contention, drops out because Menchov sticks a stick in his spokes or has intestinal distress.
Rasmussen is a trash talker with a major attitude. He's made some bad karma for himself and karma always wins.
-- Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply - "Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning" - Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel
If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the program.
If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the program.
You must have been an administration speech writer in an earlier life :-)
If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the program.
You must have been an administration speech writer in an earlier life :-)
Does anyone here really think he had a shot at winning world's or the olympics anyway? Also, if I were him, I'd be sleeping with my door locked and bolted at night to keep Menchov from sneaking in and slipping a t-patch on my nutsack while i slept.
If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the program.
If a rider misses three tests it's presumed to be equivalent to a positive test regardless of whether he doped or not.
If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the program.
If a rider misses three tests it's presumed to be equivalent to a positive test regardless of whether he doped or not.
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I understand that, but I think one of cycling's biggest problems right now is that they seem to on a witch hunt, but unappreciative of the damages done to the sport's reputation by HOW they're conducting the witch hunt. I'm suggesting that a bit of PR damage control be used. If it turns out after the Tour is over that Rasmussen is ruled to have been positive by virtue of missing three tests, at least the stink won't be on the Tour. Plus, having gone through countless tests while wearing yellow may serve to bolster Rasmussen's case, assuming he passes them all. We don't really need another scandal involving a TdF leader at the moment.
On Jul 20, 12:43 pm, Scott <[email hidden]> wrote:
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If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the program.
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If a rider misses three tests it's presumed to be equivalent to a positive test regardless of whether he doped or not.
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I understand that, but I think one of cycling's biggest problems right now is that they seem to on a witch hunt, but unappreciative of the damages done to the sport's reputation by HOW they're conducting the witch hunt. I'm suggesting that a bit of PR damage control be used. If it turns out after the Tour is over that Rasmussen is ruled to have been positive by virtue of missing three tests, at least the stink won't be on the Tour. Plus, having gone through countless tests while wearing yellow may serve to bolster Rasmussen's case, assuming he passes them all. We don't really need another scandal involving a TdF leader at the moment.
No argument there. It is a witch hunt, but people like Rasmussen who have attitude and visit someplace like Mexico (not that there's anything wrong with that) give lots of fodder to the tongue waggers. His [censored] comment about there being someone higher up out to get him is bizarre. He's getting a public spanking at an embarrassing time - that's all it is.
He has to follow the rules like everyone else...and learn to shut his mouth. Or at least start posting on rbr so it would get lost in the fog. 🙂
On Jul 20, 11:26 am, RicodJour <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping > but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not > complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. > The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of > motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd > rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the > program.
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If a rider misses three tests it's presumed to be equivalent to a positive test regardless of whether he doped or not.
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I understand that, but I think one of cycling's biggest problems right now is that they seem to on a witch hunt, but unappreciative of the damages done to the sport's reputation by HOW they're conducting the witch hunt. I'm suggesting that a bit of PR damage control be used. If it turns out after the Tour is over that Rasmussen is ruled to have been positive by virtue of missing three tests, at least the stink won't be on the Tour. Plus, having gone through countless tests while wearing yellow may serve to bolster Rasmussen's case, assuming he passes them all. We don't really need another scandal involving a TdF leader at the moment.
No argument there. It is a witch hunt, but people like Rasmussen who have attitude and visit someplace like Mexico (not that there's anything wrong with that) give lots of fodder to the tongue waggers. His [censored] comment about there being someone higher up out to get him is bizarre. He's getting a public spanking at an embarrassing time - that's all it is.
He has to follow the rules like everyone else...and learn to shut his mouth. Or at least start posting on rbr so it would get lost in the fog. 🙂
On Jul 20, 11:26 am, RicodJour <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> On Jul 20, 12:43 pm, Scott <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping > > but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not > > complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. > > The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of > > motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd > > rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the > > program.
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> If a rider misses three tests it's presumed to be equivalent to a > positive test regardless of whether he doped or not.
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I understand that, but I think one of cycling's biggest problems right now is that they seem to on a witch hunt, but unappreciative of the damages done to the sport's reputation by HOW they're conducting the witch hunt. I'm suggesting that a bit of PR damage control be used. If it turns out after the Tour is over that Rasmussen is ruled to have been positive by virtue of missing three tests, at least the stink won't be on the Tour. Plus, having gone through countless tests while wearing yellow may serve to bolster Rasmussen's case, assuming he passes them all. We don't really need another scandal involving a TdF leader at the moment.
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No argument there. It is a witch hunt, but people like Rasmussen who have attitude and visit someplace like Mexico (not that there's anything wrong with that) give lots of fodder to the tongue waggers. His [censored] comment about there being someone higher up out to get him is bizarre. He's getting a public spanking at an embarrassing time - that's all it is.
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He has to follow the rules like everyone else...and learn to shut his mouth. Or at least start posting on rbr so it would get lost in the fog. 🙂
I wish that Richards would have just taken goods to the authorities when it occurred. There would then be no chance of it being one (or two) people's word against someone else's. There would be a police report and a chain of custody of evidence.
I'll be that he has thought the same thing since then (wishing it was more substantiated) ... but its a fellow racer he probably had doubts about trashing someone else's career (at the time).
By the way ... "any idea how much that [censored] cost?"
If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the program.
You must have been an administration speech writer in an earlier life :-)
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Does anyone here really think he had a shot at winning world's or the olympics anyway?
He intends to win the Olympic MTB race, not the road race.
> If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping > but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not > complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. > The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of > motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd > rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the > program.
You must have been an administration speech writer in an earlier life :-)
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Does anyone here really think he had a shot at winning world's or the olympics anyway?
He intends to win the Olympic MTB race, not the road race.
I understand there's another Rabobank rider with other intentions.
On Jul 20, 12:46 pm, gds <[email hidden]> wrote: > On Jul 20, 9:43 am, Scott <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping > > but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not > > complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. > > The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of > > motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd > > rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the > > program. > > You must have been an administration speech writer in an earlier > life :-)
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Does anyone here really think he had a shot at winning world's or the olympics anyway?
He intends to win the Olympic MTB race, not the road race.
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I understand there's another Rabobank rider with other intentions.
And from CN: Michael Rasmussen was suspected by some to be one of the "Men in Black". The Dane admits that he sometimes doesn't train in the Rabobank outfit, but says his jersey of choice is blue. He lives near Lago di Garda in Italy, but sometimes trains in the high altitudes of Mexico, where his wife is from.
Does Jersey choice blue -> blue cooler box -> alien DNA transplant -> extraterrestrial ?
-- Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply - "Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning" - Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel
The best option is to let him continue the race. Win it--and then get disqualified. Then there can be the beginning of a streak of having no winner for le Tour. In just a few more years of this nonsense "no winner" will surpass LA's 7 straight and will be the new record holder.
54 or so KM TT today...he will be off the back just like that...he's not going to win anything.
bar <[email hidden]> wrote: > On Jul 20, 12:46 pm, gds <[email hidden]> wrote: > > On Jul 20, 9:43 am, Scott <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If I were him, I'd point out that he is not under suspicion for doping > > > but rather has merely been dropped from the Danish team for not > > > complying with their protocols for advising them of his whereabouts. > > > The Danes have taken his lack of cooperation as a sign of lack of > > > motivation and proper commitment to the national program and they'd > > > rather give his spot on the team to someone more committed to the > > > program. > > > > You must have been an administration speech writer in an earlier > > life :-)
> Does anyone here really think he had a shot at winning world's or the > olympics anyway?
He intends to win the Olympic MTB race, not the road race.
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I understand there's another Rabobank rider with other intentions.
???
Sven Nys has been talking about doing the Olympic MTB race for a few years now. The man already has over 50 assorted jerseys and now wants a medal to accessorize them.