Bridleways

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Is it legal to cycle along bridleways?

Yes.

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Dave Larrington said:

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Is it legal to cycle along bridleways?

Yes.

Give way to walkers and pedestrians though. (Section 30 1968
Countryside act)

Tim

On 19 Apr, 11:31, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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Is it legal to cycle along bridleways?

Yes.
The Countryside Act 1968 gave cyclists the right to use bridleways.

30. Riding of pedal bicycles on bridleways.-
(1) Any member of the public shall have, as a right of way, the right
to ride a bicycle, [F1 not being a mechanically propelled vehicle], on
any bridleway, but in exercising that right cyclists shall give way to
pedestrians and persons on horseback.
(2) Subsection (1) above has effect subject to any orders made by a
local authority, and to any byelaws.
(3) The rights conferred by this section shall not affect the
obligations of the highway authority, or of any other person, as
respects the maintenance of the bridleway, and this section shall not
create any obligation to do anything to facilitate the use of the
bridleway by cyclists.

Tim Hall said:

Dave Larrington said:

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Is it legal to cycle along bridleways?

Yes.

Give way to walkers and pedestrians though...

JOOI, what's the difference between a "walker" and a "pedestrian" for
these purposes?

Paul George said the following on 19/04/2007 12:02:

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The Countryside Act 1968 gave cyclists the right to use bridleways.

I wish we had the Scottish system in E&W though. If it's a path, you
can ride it. OK, that was a gross simplification, but you don't have
these bridleways that start and end as a footpath (so how do you get to
them?), you don't have to worry about whether that path that is
identical to this path is a footpath or a bridleway...

So much simpler.

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Dave Larrington said:

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Quoted message said:

Is it legal to cycle along bridleways?

Yes.

Give way to walkers and pedestrians though. (Section 30 1968
Countryside act)

I wonder what the difference is, between walkers and pedestrians?

Just being awkward!

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Tim

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Paul George said the following on 19/04/2007 12:02:

Quoted message said:

The Countryside Act 1968 gave cyclists the right to use bridleways.

I wish we had the Scottish system in E&W though. If it's a path, you
can ride it. OK, that was a gross simplification, but you don't have
these bridleways that start and end as a footpath (so how do you get to
them?), you don't have to worry about whether that path that is
identical to this path is a footpath or a bridleway...

So much simpler.

No, you don't get it at all. In Scotland, you can ride it. It does not
matter whether there is a path there or not. Yes, there is a very short
list of limitations to that (things like motorways, the immediate vicinity
of other people's houses, factories); but the basic rule it you can ride
your bicycle - anywhere you like.

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Paul Rudin said:

JOOI, what's the difference between a "walker" and a "pedestrian" for
these purposes?

Hairy socks?

-dan

Paul Rudin said:

Tim Hall said:

Dave Larrington said:

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> Is it legal to cycle along bridleways?

Yes.

Give way to walkers and pedestrians though...

JOOI, what's the difference between a "walker" and a "pedestrian" for
these purposes?

None. Brain fade.

Let's try "walkers and horse riders".

Tim

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Quoted message said:

Dave Larrington said:

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Quoted message said:

Is it legal to cycle along bridleways?

Yes.

Give way to walkers and pedestrians though.

Or horse riders. :-)

Simon Brooke said the following on 19/04/2007 13:21:

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No, you don't get it at all. In Scotland, you can ride it. It does not
matter whether there is a path there or not. Yes, there is a very short
list of limitations to that (things like motorways, the immediate vicinity
of other people's houses, factories); but the basic rule it you can ride
your bicycle - anywhere you like.

Even better! I did think it was just paths.

So if, for instance, I was cycling along Glen Nevis and saw an
interesting bit way off any path, I can just legally ride there? Having
lived in England all my life, that seems an unnatural thing to be
allowed to do.

--
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In article said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Paul Boyd

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Paul George said the following on 19/04/2007 12:02:

Quoted message said:

The Countryside Act 1968 gave cyclists the right to use bridleways.

I wish we had the Scottish system in E&W though. If it's a path, you
can ride it. OK, that was a gross simplification, but you don't have
these bridleways that start and end as a footpath (so how do you get to
them?), you don't have to worry about whether that path that is
identical to this path is a footpath or a bridleway...

So much simpler.

No, you don't get it at all. In Scotland, you can ride it. It does not
matter whether there is a path there or not. Yes, there is a very short
list of limitations to that (things like motorways, the immediate vicinity
of other people's houses, factories); but the basic rule it you can ride
your bicycle - anywhere you like.

Across growing crops of a type that might be damaged by it? That might
be one of a short list of limitations, but there are places where it's
a huge proportion of that land that isn't roads, paths or immediate vicinity
of houses.

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Simon Brooke said the following on 19/04/2007 13:21:

Quoted message said:

No, you don't get it at all. In Scotland, you can ride it. It does not
matter whether there is a path there or not. Yes, there is a very short
list of limitations to that (things like motorways, the immediate
vicinity of other people's houses, factories); but the basic rule it you
can ride your bicycle - anywhere you like.

Even better! I did think it was just paths.

So if, for instance, I was cycling along Glen Nevis and saw an
interesting bit way off any path, I can just legally ride there? Having
lived in England all my life, that seems an unnatural thing to be
allowed to do.

Yes.

The act is here:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/legislation/scotland/acts2003/20030002.htm

It's worth reading because it's such a gloriously simple, straightforward
piece of legislation. Occasionally even lawmakers can use simple, straight
forward language to say what they mean.

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Simon Brooke said:

Occasionally even lawmakers can use simple, straight
forward language to say what they mean.

Just not very often :-(

Alan Braggins said:

In article said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Paul Boyd
('usenet.dont.work@plusnet'😉 wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No, you don't get it at all. In Scotland, you can ride it. It does not
matter whether there is a path there or not. Yes, there is a very short
list of limitations to that (things like motorways, the immediate vicinity
of other people's houses, factories); but the basic rule it you can ride
your bicycle - anywhere you like.

Across growing crops of a type that might be damaged by it? That might
be one of a short list of limitations, but there are places where it's
a huge proportion of that land that isn't roads, paths or immediate vicinity
of houses.

It's called responsible access. There is a code to go with the law.
Which covers things like growing crops ands livestock.
http://www.outdooraccess-scotland.com/default.asp

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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

On 19/04/2007 15:29, Simon Brooke said,

Quoted message said:

The act is here:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/legislation/scotland/acts2003/20030002.htm

Thanks - duly bookmarked...

Quoted message said:

It's worth reading because it's such a gloriously simple, straightforward
piece of legislation.

Isn't it just? I had a quick look at some of the more obviously
relevant bits. I suspect the Fort William area might be back on the
agenda after a few year's break - I've never been there with a bike but
done loads of walking (*without* having to rely on a mobile phone to get
me out!)

Oh, and I won't be trying the famous DH course in that neck o'the woods :-)

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On 19/04/2007 14:18, Tim Hall said,

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Let's try "walkers and horse riders".

Where is this supposed antagonism between bikers and horse riders? I
occasionally encounter horsey types, and without exception so far they
have been courteous and cheery, even pulling over to let me pass.
Perhaps it's my winning smile! Red-socks on the other hand...

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Paul Boyd said:

On 19/04/2007 14:18, Tim Hall said,

Quoted message said:

Let's try "walkers and horse riders".

Where is this supposed antagonism between bikers and horse riders? I
occasionally encounter horsey types, and without exception so far they
have been courteous and cheery, even pulling over to let me pass.

Likewise. However, just as some people are scared of small and large
spiders, I'm petrified of any creature significantly larger than me. I
tend to smile nervously at horse-riders and keep well away from cattle
of all descriptions.

Cheers,
Luke

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Paul Boyd said:

Where is this supposed antagonism between bikers and horse riders?
I occasionally encounter horsey types, and without exception so far
they have been courteous and cheery, even pulling over to let me
pass. Perhaps it's my winning smile! Red-socks on the other
hand...

In general, I get on OK with horsey types. On the recumbent, I often
have to get off while they coax their giant herbivore past, anyway.

However, there is the occasional snotty git. Like the woman that
positively sneered down her nose at me, while saying loudly to her
companion "I thought this was a bridleway". Which was dumb, dumb,
dumb, because not only had it been a bridleway, I'd have been entitled
to ride my bicycle along it (and I had at this point stopped to let
them pass), but also the route in question was actually not a
bridleway, but a BOAT - I could legally have been there in a 40 tonne
HGV, never mind a bicycle. Stupid cow.

Also, we have a lot of race-horses round here. Stupid flighty
easily-panicked by unexpected things like the sky, or trees, or some
such. When one of these takes exception to you (I have, for example,
had one object to me standing stationary) the riders seem to assume
you will naturally go miles out of your way, at great inconvenience,
so as not to trouble their over-priced animal.

But most horse-riders, most of the time, are bearable.

Unlike (as you say) ramblers...

regards, Ian SMith
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