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Bret · 2007-04-05T04:05:35+00:00

My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt. Bret

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Bret
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5 April 2007, 04:05 UTC #1

My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
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5 April 2007, 19:36 UTC #2

Put me down for Devolder

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Fred Fredburger
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5 April 2007, 20:14 UTC #3

Scott said:
Bret said:
My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
Bret
My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
Scott, your heart is a dumbass.

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Andre
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5 April 2007, 20:29 UTC #4

On Apr 5, 3:36 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>
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Put me down for Devolder
Write me in for Boonen
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Bill C
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5 April 2007, 21:03 UTC #5

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Put me down for Devolder
Write me in for Boonen
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1.Boonen
2.Paolini
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Scott
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5 April 2007, 21:10 UTC #6

Bret said:
My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
Bret
My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
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Scott
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5 April 2007, 21:27 UTC #7

Fred Fredburger said:
Scott said:
Bret said:
My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
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Bret
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My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
really big result in what is likely his last season.

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Bret
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5 April 2007, 21:42 UTC #8

Scott said:
On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
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Scott said:
On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
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> Bret
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My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
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Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
really big result in what is likely his last season.
If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
before his mechanical.
Bret

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Bob Schwartz
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5 April 2007, 22:02 UTC #9

Scott said:
Fred Fredburger said:
Scott said:
On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
> Bret
My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.

Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
really big result in what is likely his last season.
Current weather forecast is for 16C/61F, 20% chance of rain,
light winds. That will make for a larger group during later
stages of the race. There will be more possibilities for
the win, but as you remove elements of chance from the race
that favors strong teams that will have more riders in the
group.
If I was going on sentiment I'd take PVP, who is on a strong
team and could possibly take a win like Pozzato got in last
year's M-SR.
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Scott
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5 April 2007, 22:04 UTC #10

Bret said:
Scott said:
On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
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Scott wrote:
> On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
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>> Bret
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> My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
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Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
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Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
really big result in what is likely his last season.
If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
before his mechanical.
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Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
sentimental favorite.
FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!

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Bret
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5 April 2007, 22:23 UTC #11

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> Scott wrote:
> > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
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> >> Bret
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> > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
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> Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
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Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
really big result in what is likely his last season.
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If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
before his mechanical.
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Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
sentimental favorite.
Good luck with that.
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FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!
Why, because I'll be the only one likely to show up when it snows? The
last time it snowed, Bobio and I finished away together and we tried
to tie. They gave it to him. More details here:
http://tinyurl.com/yttym2
My pick is Bill.
Bret

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Scott
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5 April 2007, 22:51 UTC #12

Bret said:
Scott said:
On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
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> > Scott wrote:
> > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
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> > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
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> > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
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> Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> really big result in what is likely his last season.
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If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
before his mechanical.
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Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
sentimental favorite.
Good luck with that.
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FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!
Why, because I'll be the only one likely to show up when it snows? The
last time it snowed, Bobio and I finished away together and we tried
to tie. They gave it to him. More details here:
http://tinyurl.com/yttym2
My pick is Bill.
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Bill will likely be very heavily marked, so unless he just plain rips
the legs off any breakaway companions he may have, I don't see him
doing it. I think you're a more likely candidate, or perhaps Jim E.,
Vic, or even me if the planets align just right!
For a long-shot pick, I'm going with B. Simmons!

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Bret
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5 April 2007, 23:30 UTC #13

Scott said:
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On Apr 5, 4:04 pm, "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
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> > > Scott wrote:
> > > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
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> > > >> Bret
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> > > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
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> > > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
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> > Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> > not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> > really big result in what is likely his last season.
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> If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
> and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
> impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
> before his mechanical.
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Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
sentimental favorite.
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Good luck with that.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!
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Why, because I'll be the only one likely to show up when it snows? The
last time it snowed, Bobio and I finished away together and we tried
to tie. They gave it to him. More details here:
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http://tinyurl.com/yttym2
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My pick is Bill.
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Bill will likely be very heavily marked, so unless he just plain rips
the legs off any breakaway companions he may have, I don't see him
doing it. I think you're a more likely candidate, or perhaps Jim E.,
Vic, or even me if the planets align just right!
I have the advantage of knowing the team plan. 1. We set something up.
2. Bill rips the legs off of anyone crazy enough to follow him.
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For a long-shot pick, I'm going with B. Simmons!
I'll go with Thacker.
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Scott
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5 April 2007, 23:38 UTC #14

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Scott said:
On Apr 5, 4:23 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > > <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > > > Scott wrote:
> > > > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > > > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
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> > > > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
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> > > > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
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> > > Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> > > not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> > > really big result in what is likely his last season.
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> > If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
> > and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
> > impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
> > before his mechanical.
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> Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
> oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
> sentimental favorite.
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Good luck with that.
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> FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!
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Why, because I'll be the only one likely to show up when it snows? The
last time it snowed, Bobio and I finished away together and we tried
to tie. They gave it to him. More details here:
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http://tinyurl.com/yttym2
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My pick is Bill.
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Bill will likely be very heavily marked, so unless he just plain rips
the legs off any breakaway companions he may have, I don't see him
doing it. I think you're a more likely candidate, or perhaps Jim E.,
Vic, or even me if the planets align just right!
I have the advantage of knowing the team plan. 1. We set something up.
2. Bill rips the legs off of anyone crazy enough to follow him.
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For a long-shot pick, I'm going with B. Simmons!
I'll go with Thacker.
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I don't know... he didn't look particularly strong last Sunday. He's
always a favorite for any race involving dirt, I suppose, but he
wouldn't be my pick.

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Geraard Spergen
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5 April 2007, 23:53 UTC #15

Scott said:
Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
sentimental favorite.
Sentimental picks are usually the semi-has-beens (Zabel, VanPeet), or
someone with a close relative who just died, or maybe someone on a
comeback from a bad crash or butt boil.

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Michael Press
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6 April 2007, 05:52 UTC #16

In article
<[email hidden]>,
Bret said:
Scott said:
On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
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Scott wrote:
> On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
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>> Bret
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> My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
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Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
really big result in what is likely his last season.
If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
before his mechanical.
I heard the mechanical wasn't. He was coked to the
eyelids and the DS had to rein him in.
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Michael Press

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Alexander Lackner
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6 April 2007, 12:53 UTC #17

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Put me down for Devolder
My semi-educated guess is Alessandro "Gewiss" Ballan.

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Nev Shea
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6 April 2007, 16:06 UTC #18

Geraard Spergen <[email hidden]> wrote in news:46158b86$0$13256
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Scott wrote:
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Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
sentimental favorite.
Sentimental picks are usually the semi-has-beens (Zabel, VanPeet), or
someone with a close relative who just died, or maybe someone on a
comeback from a bad crash or butt boil.
I'd go with a sentimental favorite on the comeback from a doping
suspension, but Tyler isn't on the start list. So I guess I'll have to go
with Hondo even though I don't see him being with the leaders after the
climbs.
NS
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Morten Reippuert Knudsen
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6 April 2007, 17:23 UTC #19

Cancellara
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Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>
Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

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William Asher
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6 April 2007, 18:17 UTC #20

Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:

Cancellara
He's always trained well in these races.
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