STI shifter problem

"Doug B." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Just want to verify the common wisdom:
If the WD-40 treatment doesn't fix shifter problems, replace the
shifter?

Left Ultegra ST-6501 front lever moves when rear lever is pushed,
preventing downshift. Appears the spring for the front lever has
weakened. When front lever is held stationary, rear lever works as
expected.

Thanks.
Doug B.

See http://www.billcotton.com/sti_shifter_repair.htm

Bill Cotton said:

"Doug B." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Just want to verify the common wisdom:
If the WD-40 treatment doesn't fix shifter problems, replace the
shifter?

Left Ultegra ST-6501 front lever moves when rear lever is pushed,
preventing downshift. Appears the spring for the front lever has
weakened. When front lever is held stationary, rear lever works as
expected.

Thanks.
Doug B.

See http://www.billcotton.com/sti_shifter_repair.htm

How elegant! But I'm already home. Can't imagine initiating a ride
with that solution.
Doug B.

Doug B. said:

Just want to verify the common wisdom:
If the WD-40 treatment doesn't fix shifter problems, replace the
shifter?

Left Ultegra ST-6501 front lever moves when rear lever is pushed,
preventing downshift. Appears the spring for the front lever has
weakened. When front lever is held stationary, rear lever works as
expected.

Thanks.
Doug B.

Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want
to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want

to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.<<

What would one need to do to use Campagnolo shifters in the place of
Ultegra 9s STI? Is there a web site that tells all the
compatabilities/incompatabilities between the two groups? I know alot of
parts are interchangable from what I've read in here-I just can't keep it
all straight. My Ultegra 9s are starting to feel loose and have many more
rattles in the last couple thousand miles than previous. It'd be great to
replace 'em when they finally give out with something repairable without
dropping green on a whole new groupset.

jj1075

jj1075 said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want

to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.<<

What would one need to do to use Campagnolo shifters in the place of
Ultegra 9s STI? Is there a web site that tells all the
compatabilities/incompatabilities between the two groups? I know alot of
parts are interchangable from what I've read in here-I just can't keep it
all straight. My Ultegra 9s are starting to feel loose and have many more
rattles in the last couple thousand miles than previous. It'd be great to
replace 'em when they finally give out with something repairable without
dropping green on a whole new groupset.

jj1075

What he said!
Doug B.

jj1075 said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want

to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.<<

What would one need to do to use Campagnolo shifters in the place of
Ultegra 9s STI? Is there a web site that tells all the
compatabilities/incompatabilities between the two groups? I know alot of
parts are interchangable from what I've read in here-I just can't keep it
all straight. My Ultegra 9s are starting to feel loose and have many more
rattles in the last couple thousand miles than previous. It'd be great to
replace 'em when they finally give out with something repairable without
dropping green on a whole new groupset.

jj1075

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/shiftmate.html

"Gary Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

jj1075 said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

>Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want

to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.<<

What would one need to do to use Campagnolo shifters in the place of
Ultegra 9s STI? Is there a web site that tells all the
compatabilities/incompatabilities between the two groups? I know alot of
parts are interchangable from what I've read in here-I just can't keep it
all straight. My Ultegra 9s are starting to feel loose and have many more
rattles in the last couple thousand miles than previous. It'd be great to
replace 'em when they finally give out with something repairable without
dropping green on a whole new groupset.

jj1075

http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/shiftmate.html

Another option that is to use a Campy 10 ergo shifters with Shimano 9
everything else - rear der, hub and cassette and route the cable on the
opposite side:

http://www.hubbub.com/articles_ergopower.html

Best part, its free!

jj1075 said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want

to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.<<

What would one need to do to use Campagnolo shifters in the place of
Ultegra 9s STI? Is there a web site that tells all the
compatabilities/incompatabilities between the two groups? I know alot of
parts are interchangable from what I've read in here-I just can't keep it
all straight. My Ultegra 9s are starting to feel loose and have many more
rattles in the last couple thousand miles than previous. It'd be great to
replace 'em when they finally give out with something repairable without
dropping green on a whole new groupset.

jj1075

Get any 10s ERGO, any Campag RD, and adjust RD, go ride. Compatible
with shimano 9s cogs/chains and chainrings.

Gary Young said:

Quoted message said:

sheldonbrown.comshiftmate.html<<Open ↗

Thanks! I shoulda figured on looking there first.

BFD said:

Quoted message said:

Another option that is to use a Campy 10 ergo shifters with Shimano 9

everything else - rear der, hub and cassette and route the cable on the
opposite side:

http://www.hubbub.com/articles_ergopower.html

Best part, its free! <<

Again, thanks. Looks highly do-able.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Get any 10s ERGO, any Campag RD, and adjust RD, go ride. Compatible

with shimano 9s cogs/chains and chainrings.<<

This is what I'll end up doing. I have access to both in Centaur.

jj1075

jj1075 said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want

to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.<<

What would one need to do to use Campagnolo shifters in the place of
Ultegra 9s STI? Is there a web site that tells all the
compatabilities/incompatabilities between the two groups? I know alot of
parts are interchangable from what I've read in here-I just can't keep it
all straight. My Ultegra 9s are starting to feel loose and have many more
rattles in the last couple thousand miles than previous. It'd be great to
replace 'em when they finally give out with something repairable without
dropping green on a whole new groupset.

http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946

Using Campy 10s with the Hubbub connection at the rear der works perfectly.
Perfectly.

Ron

Quoted message said:

Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want
to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.

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Is there a campag triple shifter that will work with Shimano triple ring
and front der?

Callistus Valerius said:

Quoted message said:

Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want
to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.

-------
Is there a campag triple shifter that will work with Shimano triple ring
and front der?

Any left ERGO, 2006 and earlier, will work great with shimano crank/FD,
double or triple. 2007 Record and Chorus as well. Centaur and below
lefts for 2007 have become 'indexed' and don't even work well with
Campag FDs.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Any left ERGO, 2006 and earlier, will work great with shimano crank/FD,
double or triple. 2007 Record and Chorus as well. Centaur and below
lefts for 2007 have become 'indexed' and don't even work well with
Campag FDs.

So, if I get that right, they threw away the major advantage of having
ERGO over STI in these gruppo's?

well, we can always go back to shimano front derailleur friction
shifting, I guess...

Quoted message said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Any left ERGO, 2006 and earlier, will work great with shimano crank/FD,
double or triple. 2007 Record and Chorus as well. Centaur and below
lefts for 2007 have become 'indexed' and don't even work well with
Campag FDs.

So, if I get that right, they threw away the major advantage of having
ERGO over STI in these gruppo's?

well, we can always go back to shimano front derailleur friction
shifting, I guess...

NO, same action in Chorus and Record as before. Repairable levers is
the advantage of ERGO over STI, and even on 2007 Centaur/Veloce/Mirage,
that has\n't changed. STI is still throwaway.

BUt DT shifters on both sides work just fine, thanks.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Quoted message said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Any left ERGO, 2006 and earlier, will work great with shimano crank/FD,
double or triple. 2007 Record and Chorus as well. Centaur and below
lefts for 2007 have become 'indexed' and don't even work well with
Campag FDs.

So, if I get that right, they threw away the major advantage of having
ERGO over STI in these gruppo's?

well, we can always go back to shimano front derailleur friction
shifting, I guess...

NO, same action in Chorus and Record as before. Repairable levers is
the advantage of ERGO over STI, and even on 2007 Centaur/Veloce/Mirage,
that has\n't changed. STI is still throwaway.

BUt DT shifters on both sides work just fine, thanks.

....or barends or levers mounted on Kelly Take-offs.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Callistus Valerius said:

Quoted message said:

Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want
to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.

-------
Is there a campag triple shifter that will work with Shimano triple ring
and front der?

Any left ERGO, 2006 and earlier, will work great with shimano crank/FD,
double or triple. 2007 Record and Chorus as well. Centaur and below
lefts for 2007 have become 'indexed' and don't even work well with
Campag FDs.

What denotes a pre 2007 ERGO from a 2007 ERGO?
Doug B.

Doug B. said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Callistus Valerius said:

>
> Common failure mode of 9s STI, both ultegra and DA...replace..may want
> to look at Campag, and no more busted, throw away lever problems.
-------
Is there a campag triple shifter that will work with Shimano triple ring
and front der?

Any left ERGO, 2006 and earlier, will work great with shimano crank/FD,
double or triple. 2007 Record and Chorus as well. Centaur and below
lefts for 2007 have become 'indexed' and don't even work well with
Campag FDs.

What denotes a pre 2007 ERGO from a 2007 ERGO?

2007 Record and Chorus didn't change...Centaur and below are the same
as Xenon in design, a step backward, IMO. Take the back cap off and it
will become obvious. Centaur for 2007 has carbon brake blades, Veloce
for 2007 has a hole in the shift lever.

Quoted message said:

Doug B.