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  1. Trailer Trash Recommendation

    that would be marty aka friday mom.

  2. Vincent Patrick said:

    The Monoporter is meant to carry a maximum of 25 kg.

    Then way over priced and easily to overload if it really has an 80 litre
    bag. I doubt if I could pack that fluffy.

  3. Peter Signorini said:

    "Murray R. Van Luyn" wrote:


    <<snipped>>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Maybe I should have another look at panniers, and just accept the added
    risk of broken spokes and axles that my stature seems to make inevitable
    in any case.

    Pssst! Four panniers and a racktop bag will carry more gear than a BOB bag,
    and the bike handling on steep, rough or slippery surfaces will be far
    better. As for broken gear - wheels built of 36 spokes (14g) should cope
    with most weights and terrain bumps. But then I'm a lightweight so it's
    difficult to compare.

    Of course, you could just get an xtracycle...

    www.xtracycle.com

    Rated to 95 kg of load
    Multiple configurations (long, wide, flat, etc).
    The weight can easily be distributed down low for better handling.
    No bump steering from the a trailer.
    Ample heel clearance to load unlike some pannier setups.
    More rigid design reduces pannier rack wobble

    --
    Pete.B

  4. Terryc said:
    Vincent Patrick said:

    The Monoporter is meant to carry a maximum of 25 kg.

    Then way over priced and easily to overload if it really has an 80 litre
    bag. I doubt if I could pack that fluffy.

    Hmmm. Litres and kgs are not eqivalent - unless you are carrying water.

    With my pannier-equipped bike I have:

    Bikepacker rear - 40L
    Sportpacker front - 30L
    Packsack racktop gear bag - 35L
    Handlebar bag - 10L

    Total load capacity - 125L [1]

    But even fully loaded to the gunwhales I'd never carry much more than 35kg.
    Pushing the bike on any steep grades (cycling or walking) just becomes
    intolerably difficult.

    [1] As I've posted elsewhere, a fully kitted out touring rig can carry
    considerably more than a trailer. Trailers, be it a BOB, BOB-clone or
    Monoporter are really only useful for overnight lightweight MTB trail tours,
    or as a supplementary load carrier for a tour that demands lots of
    water/food. I've used mine as extra carrying space for tandem touring.

    --
    Cheers
    Peter

    ~~~ ~ _@
    ~~ ~ _- \,
    ~~ (*)/ (*)

  5. Peter Signorini said:

    Bikepacker rear - 40L
    Sportpacker front - 30L
    Packsack racktop gear bag - 35L
    Handlebar bag - 10L

    Total load capacity - 125L [1]

    Ooops! That should be 115L of course.

    D'oh!!

    --
    Cheers
    Peter

    ~~~ ~ _@
    ~~ ~ _- \,
    ~~ (*)/ (*)

  6. Hi Friday,

    Hmm, that's the 2nd report I've heard about the Bob coming undone. A trailer
    breakdown in the bush wouldn't be life threatening, but it sure could get
    expensive dumping everything and having to pedal off with just the water.

    Maybe I should have another look at panniers, and just accept the added risk
    of broken spokes and axles that my stature seems to make inevitable in any
    case.

    Regards,
    Murray R. Van Luyn.

    "Friday" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Murray R. Van Luyn said:

    Hi David,

    Thanks very much for your post. I'd seen a few comments about the Bob and
    it's coupling issues. I believe that it can lose cotter pins, come undone
    and result in a bent something-or-other. I think you may have sold me on
    the clone if this isn't going to be an issue for it.

    Thanks also for the including the origin of your trailer. I didn't think
    that I was going to get one in WA, but it seems that if I have a bit of a
    ring around, then I might save on the $110 freight that one supplier at
    least quoted me.

    I wonder how the clone is going to cope with rough forrest trails, as I
    expect the Munda Biddi will be?

    Regards,
    Murray R. Van Luyn.

    "davidm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    >Soooo much cheaper than a BoB. Tri-Sled http://www.trisled.com.au/
    >also sell them (I spoke to Ian from flyingfurniture yesterday and he

    I've used the clone and the real thing, and also a 2 wheeler trailer. I
    now own the clone. I liked the coupling of the clone better than the
    original BOB whihc is ery "fussy" for my liking.

    For touring, you'll find it's great. When we tour I carry a 3 person
    tent, 10L of water, and two sets of sleeping bags and mattresses, a tarp
    and food.. My wife carries clothes etc in her panniers. The trailer did
    fine.

    I got mine for cheap, maybe $200 (?) from Mercer Cycles in Fremantle.
    Can't recall the exact amount, but much cheaper than a BOB.

    Cheers
    David M

    I've seen one person on the Mundabidd with a Bob and I did notice that the
    mesh on the bottom had broken away and had been resecured with cable ties.

    Friday

  7. "Peter Signorini" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    .... snip

    Quoted message said:

    [1] As I've posted elsewhere, a fully kitted out touring rig can carry
    considerably more than a trailer. Trailers, be it a BOB, BOB-clone or
    Monoporter are really only useful for overnight lightweight MTB trail
    tours, or as a supplementary load carrier for a tour that demands lots
    of water/food. I've used mine as extra carrying space for tandem
    touring.

    In the context of the OP's question (MTB touring), I agree. However I
    think a trailer will be superior to panniers for carrying heavy bulky
    objects that are not easily broken down. For example, a 35 litre bag of
    cat litter and a large bag of cat biscuits. I had to take the car
    yesterday, on a 10 km round trip to get same, and I think the trip would
    have been faster with a trailer-equipped bicycle - even allowing for the
    load on the return journey. It would certainly have been more enjoyable.

    I liked the look of the BOB clone at flying furniture, mentioned in an
    earlier post. I can definitely see one of these in my future.

    --
    beerwolf
    (To reply by email, remove numbers from my address)

  8. In aus.bicycle on Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:07:00 -0000

    beerwolf said:


    I liked the look of the BOB clone at flying furniture, mentioned in an
    earlier post. I can definitely see one of these in my future.

    Or you can buy one of Moz's utility trailers, see www.mozbike.com

    Pick up from Petersham.

    Zebee

  9. Skewer said:
    Peter Signorini said:

    "Murray R. Van Luyn" wrote:


    <<snipped>>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Maybe I should have another look at panniers, and just accept the added
    risk of broken spokes and axles that my stature seems to make inevitable
    in any case.

    Pssst! Four panniers and a racktop bag will carry more gear than a BOB
    bag, and the bike handling on steep, rough or slippery surfaces will be
    far better. As for broken gear - wheels built of 36 spokes (14g) should
    cope with most weights and terrain bumps. But then I'm a lightweight so
    it's difficult to compare.

    Of course, you could just get an xtracycle...

    www.xtracycle.com

    Rated to 95 kg of load
    Multiple configurations (long, wide, flat, etc).
    The weight can easily be distributed down low for better handling.
    No bump steering from the a trailer.
    Ample heel clearance to load unlike some pannier setups.
    More rigid design reduces pannier rack wobble

    --
    Pete.B

    Nice idea, but I wonder how the long wheelbase would go on rough trails,
    over rocks, etc.

    Cheers,

    Vince

  10. Peter Signorini said:

    Hmmm. Litres and kgs are not eqivalent - unless you are carrying water.

    Well, given my packing mechanism (both feet and both handles in pressure
    mode, I have to be careful {:-).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Total load capacity - 125L [1]

    I have no idea what my home made set's capacity is, but that has never
    stopped me adding a wheat bag or two [1] {:-).

    Quoted message said:


    But even fully loaded to the gunwhales I'd never carry much more than 35kg.
    Pushing the bike on any steep grades (cycling or walking) just becomes
    intolerably difficult.

    hmm, will have to see what I've measured over the years.

    Quoted message said:


    [1] As I've posted elsewhere, a fully kitted out touring rig can carry
    considerably more than a trailer.

    Agreed.

    I mainly play with them for shopping and hard rubbish scrounging trips.

    Quoted message said:

    or as a supplementary load carrier for a tour that demands lots of
    water/food.

    They do have the advantage that the weight is low down, which is useful
    for batteries, bulk water, etc (yep, done that)

    [1] we took an enormous load of supplies out of Adelaide for three
    months in NT in the 70s (via train and bus {:-).

  11. beerwolf said:

    In the context of the OP's question (MTB touring), I agree. However I
    think a trailer will be superior to panniers for carrying heavy bulky
    objects that are not easily broken down. For example, a 35 litre bag of
    cat litter and a large bag of cat biscuits. I had to take the car
    yesterday, on a 10 km round trip to get same, and I think the trip would
    have been faster with a trailer-equipped bicycle - even allowing for the
    load on the return journey. It would certainly have been more enjoyable.

    Warning, this IMHO would be an exceptional trailer. It would have to be
    rock solid and the coupling would have to be the same. the problem isn't
    getting started or steering, the problem is bumps and what happens when
    your load suddenly drops an inch crossing the driveway, etc. Harmonics
    can be deadly.

  12. Vincent Patrick said:

    Skewer wrote:


    <snipped>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Of course, you could just get an xtracycle...

    www.xtracycle.com

    Rated to 95 kg of load
    Multiple configurations (long, wide, flat, etc).
    The weight can easily be distributed down low for better handling.
    No bump steering from the a trailer.
    Ample heel clearance to load unlike some pannier setups.
    More rigid design reduces pannier rack wobble

    --
    Pete.B

    Nice idea, but I wonder how the long wheelbase would go on rough trails,
    over rocks, etc.

    Cheers,

    Vince

    Like these?
    <<http://xtracycle.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=Going-Coastal&page=1>>

    I'm not a trails rider so can't comment directly.

    Discussions on the Xtracycle board seem to indicate they acquit
    themselves well.

    Here's a Blog from some guys presently riding their X's along the North
    American Continental Divide through the U.S.
    http://www.ridingthespine.com/main.html

    --
    --
    Pete.B

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