Trailer Recommendation

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

I don't want to carry very much. Just a light-weight tent, sleeping bag, a
few goodies and maybe 6-8 litres of water. I'm thinking about taking on
the Bibulmun track this Christmas, which is I believe just a forrest trail
extending from Perth to Albany in the West.

Don't really have the time or tools to make my own, but the keel sounds
like a good idea. The few sections of the Bibulmun track that I have seen
have been plenty rocky, so maybe it would be a good addition to a
commercial trailer.

Regards,
Muz.

The Bibbulmun track is a great walking trail (at least, the sections I've
been on were) but bikes are not allowed. Check the FAQ on:
http://www.bibbulmuntrack.org.au/

You might consider the Munda Biddi trail which is specifically intended for
(mountain) bikes, and goes from Perth to Collie. In future extensions, the
Munda Biddi trail is planned to reach Albany.
http://www.mundabiddi.org.au/

Cheers,

Vince

Murray,

flying furniture http://www.flyingfurniture.com.au/parts.html

have Bob Yak clones (a bit more 'industrial' but folding for easy
transport) for $289.

People rave about them and cheaper than a genuine bob

Geoff

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hi,

I'm looking to get hold of a bicycle trailer for on and off-road MTB use.
What's the best one to get?

Regards,
Muz.

I got one about 6 months ago.

It is brilliant. I take it shopping, on rides etc.

I've had 38kg in it (though that was on paved road).

Folds up into the bag for easy storage.

Can't see the benefit of the big extra $$$ for the BOB original.

SCotty

gmercer said:

Murray,

flying furniture flyingfurniture.com.auparts.htmlOpen ↗

have Bob Yak clones (a bit more 'industrial' but folding for easy
transport) for $289.

People rave about them and cheaper than a genuine bob

Geoff

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hi,

I'm looking to get hold of a bicycle trailer for on and off-road MTB use.
What's the best one to get?

Regards,
Muz.

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hi Terry,

Thanks for the quick reply.

Yeah, I though the BOB Yak might be the go. Not cheap,

I believe there is also a copy/look alike also floating around for a
fair bit less. Hopefully someone will point you to it.

It was previously mentioned on the group.

gmercer said:

Murray,

flying furniturehttp://www.flyingfurniture.com.au/parts.html

have Bob Yak clones (a bit more 'industrial' but folding for easy
transport) for $289.

People rave about them and cheaper than a genuine bob

Geoff

Soooo much cheaper than a BoB. Tri-Sled http://www.trisled.com.au/
also sell them (I spoke to Ian from flyingfurniture yesterday and he
said he doesn't have any in stock at the moment but will do before
Christmas, but I can't wait 'cause I'm an impatient git so I'm getting
one from Ben at Tri-Sled).

The trailer in qestion is the "Convenience-I" from twbents in Taiwan:
http://www.twbents.com.tw/HTM/convenience-i.htm

Hi,

I'm looking to get hold of a bicycle trailer for on and off-road MTB use.
What's the best one to get?

Regards,
Muz.

Hi Terry,

Thanks for the quick reply.

Yeah, I though the BOB Yak might be the go. Not cheap, though. There was a
brand new GNU foldable trailer just went off on Ebay for $255. Lots less
than a Yak, but I didn't know if it would fall apart or not. That's the real
decider in my case - durability.

I don't want to carry very much. Just a light-weight tent, sleeping bag, a
few goodies and maybe 6-8 litres of water. I'm thinking about taking on the
Bibulmun track this Christmas, which is I believe just a forrest trail
extending from Perth to Albany in the West.

Don't really have the time or tools to make my own, but the keel sounds like
a good idea. The few sections of the Bibulmun track that I have seen have
been plenty rocky, so maybe it would be a good addition to a commercial
trailer.

Regards,
Muz.

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Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hi,

I'm looking to get hold of a bicycle trailer for on and off-road MTB use.
What's the best one to get?

Commercially built, probably a bob yak or something similar i.e with one
wheel..

What weight do you want to carry?
what does the load consist of?
How off-road do you want?

If you are going to build one yourself (special load), can I suggest a
keel[1] for sliding over logs and rocks.

[1] just a piece of angle with the corner downwards.

Quoted message said:

Soooo much cheaper than a BoB. Tri-Sled http://www.trisled.com.au/
also sell them (I spoke to Ian from flyingfurniture yesterday and he

I've used the clone and the real thing, and also a 2 wheeler trailer. I now
own the clone. I liked the coupling of the clone better than the original
BOB whihc is ery "fussy" for my liking.

For touring, you'll find it's great. When we tour I carry a 3 person tent,
10L of water, and two sets of sleeping bags and mattresses, a tarp and
food.. My wife carries clothes etc in her panniers. The trailer did fine.

I got mine for cheap, maybe $200 (?) from Mercer Cycles in Fremantle. Can't
recall the exact amount, but much cheaper than a BOB.

Cheers
David M

Hi Vincent,

Yeah, I emailed CALM to ask them whether I could ride a mountain bike on the
Bibbulmun. I'm still waiting to hear back, but now I know better.

The Mundabiddi sounds interesting. I really don't have enough time for a
trip all the way to Albany. I just wanted to take-in a few day's worth of
the Darling Ranges, so the trip to Collie would be plenty for me. Thanks for
the advice and the link too.

Regards,
Murrauy R. Van Luyn.

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Quoted message said:

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

I don't want to carry very much. Just a light-weight tent, sleeping bag,
a
few goodies and maybe 6-8 litres of water. I'm thinking about taking on
the Bibulmun track this Christmas, which is I believe just a forrest
trail
extending from Perth to Albany in the West.

Don't really have the time or tools to make my own, but the keel sounds
like a good idea. The few sections of the Bibulmun track that I have seen
have been plenty rocky, so maybe it would be a good addition to a
commercial trailer.

Regards,
Muz.

The Bibbulmun track is a great walking trail (at least, the sections I've
been on were) but bikes are not allowed. Check the FAQ on:
http://www.bibbulmuntrack.org.au/

You might consider the Munda Biddi trail which is specifically intended
for
(mountain) bikes, and goes from Perth to Collie. In future extensions, the
Munda Biddi trail is planned to reach Albany.
http://www.mundabiddi.org.au/

Cheers,

Vince

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hi David,

Thanks very much for your post. I'd seen a few comments about the Bob and
it's coupling issues. I believe that it can lose cotter pins, come undone
and result in a bent something-or-other. I think you may have sold me on the
clone if this isn't going to be an issue for it.

Thanks also for the including the origin of your trailer. I didn't think
that I was going to get one in WA, but it seems that if I have a bit of a
ring around, then I might save on the $110 freight that one supplier at
least quoted me.

I wonder how the clone is going to cope with rough forrest trails, as I
expect the Munda Biddi will be?

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Soooo much cheaper than a BoB. Tri-Sled http://www.trisled.com.au/
also sell them (I spoke to Ian from flyingfurniture yesterday and he

I've used the clone and the real thing, and also a 2 wheeler trailer. I
now own the clone. I liked the coupling of the clone better than the
original BOB whihc is ery "fussy" for my liking.

For touring, you'll find it's great. When we tour I carry a 3 person tent,
10L of water, and two sets of sleeping bags and mattresses, a tarp and
food.. My wife carries clothes etc in her panniers. The trailer did fine.

I got mine for cheap, maybe $200 (?) from Mercer Cycles in Fremantle.
Can't recall the exact amount, but much cheaper than a BOB.

Cheers
David M

I've seen one person on the Mundabidd with a Bob and I did notice that
the mesh on the bottom had broken away and had been resecured with cable
ties.

Friday

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

I'm looking to get hold of a bicycle trailer for on and off-road MTB use.
What's the best one to get?

The best one? Best I've seen is the Weber Monoporter, displayed at the
recent Bike Australia Show.

http://www.weber-products.de/monoporter/index.html (Manufacturer website -
in German)

At around half the weight of a BOB Yak, and able to fold really compactly to
fit into a carry bag it has some practical advantages, and it is very well
engineered. But the price is quite high!

Details and RRP of the Weber Monoporter trailer from an enquiry to the
distributor
..

Quoted message said:

The monoporter can be bought as a complete setup for $1399.00 which
includes the Trailer, Waterproof 80 litre pack and the Transporter bag. Or
you can purchase just the trailer for just $1149 as it can be used with any
bag placed on top of it and strapped down with the straps that are supplied
(Handy for everyday use or touring alike). General Details on the
monoporter are as follows:

- Product Weight = 5.75 kg (Makes it one of the lightest yet
toughest trailer on the market)
- Overall length 150cm
- Packs down easily to 76x44x15cm
- High Grade steel spokes
- Solid high-grade steel axle with a scratch proof powder coating
- High-quality aluminium framework

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If you require any further information than what I have supplied you with
above please don't hesitate to contact either myself or [email hidden]
by email.

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Cheers
Peter

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It should be fine - depends how rough you are.

Mine generally goes on road, but I do take it up and down kerbs, across short dirt sections.

The coupling is easy - just be sure that when you slide the catch down to lock it in, make sure you pop the pin back out - that will fix it in. Even if you don't it should come out unless you get rough or take twisty turns. However, popping the pin back out that 1/4 cm secures it (you'll know when you see it)

Scotty

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hi SCotty,

Thanks very much for you comments about the Bob clone trailer.

It sounds as though you've had good use of yours on paved roads. How do you
think it would do with a moderate load on rough forrest trails? Is it going
to come unhitched or rattle to bits, or do you think it would be a certainty
to hang-in there?

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.

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Quoted message said:

I got one about 6 months ago.

It is brilliant. I take it shopping, on rides etc.

I've had 38kg in it (though that was on paved road).

Folds up into the bag for easy storage.

Can't see the benefit of the big extra $$$ for the BOB original.

SCotty

gmercer said:

Murray,

flying furniture flyingfurniture.com.auparts.htmlOpen ↗

have Bob Yak clones (a bit more 'industrial' but folding for easy
transport) for $289.

People rave about them and cheaper than a genuine bob

Geoff

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hi,

I'm looking to get hold of a bicycle trailer for on and off-road MTB

use.

Quoted message said:

What's the best one to get?

Regards,
Muz.

--
scotty72

Hi David,

Thanks very much for your post. I'd seen a few comments about the Bob and
it's coupling issues. I believe that it can lose cotter pins, come undone
and result in a bent something-or-other. I think you may have sold me on the
clone if this isn't going to be an issue for it.

Thanks also for the including the origin of your trailer. I didn't think
that I was going to get one in WA, but it seems that if I have a bit of a
ring around, then I might save on the $110 freight that one supplier at
least quoted me.

I wonder how the clone is going to cope with rough forrest trails, as I
expect the Munda Biddi will be?

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.

"davidm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Soooo much cheaper than a BoB. Tri-Sled http://www.trisled.com.au/
also sell them (I spoke to Ian from flyingfurniture yesterday and he

I've used the clone and the real thing, and also a 2 wheeler trailer. I
now own the clone. I liked the coupling of the clone better than the
original BOB whihc is ery "fussy" for my liking.

For touring, you'll find it's great. When we tour I carry a 3 person tent,
10L of water, and two sets of sleeping bags and mattresses, a tarp and
food.. My wife carries clothes etc in her panniers. The trailer did fine.

I got mine for cheap, maybe $200 (?) from Mercer Cycles in Fremantle.
Can't recall the exact amount, but much cheaper than a BOB.

Cheers
David M

Hi SCotty,

Thanks very much for you comments about the Bob clone trailer.

It sounds as though you've had good use of yours on paved roads. How do you
think it would do with a moderate load on rough forrest trails? Is it going
to come unhitched or rattle to bits, or do you think it would be a certainty
to hang-in there?

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.

"scotty72" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I got one about 6 months ago.

It is brilliant. I take it shopping, on rides etc.

I've had 38kg in it (though that was on paved road).

Folds up into the bag for easy storage.

Can't see the benefit of the big extra $$$ for the BOB original.

SCotty

gmercer said:

Murray,

flying furniture http://www.flyingfurniture.com.au/parts.html

have Bob Yak clones (a bit more 'industrial' but folding for easy
transport) for $289.

People rave about them and cheaper than a genuine bob

Geoff

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hi,

I'm looking to get hold of a bicycle trailer for on and off-road MTB

use.

Quoted message said:

What's the best one to get?

Regards,
Muz.

--
scotty72

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hi Friday,

Hmm, that's the 2nd report I've heard about the Bob coming undone.

Apart from the facts that I don't have QR wheels, nor could I get the
bob-style latches, I decided to make my trailer bolt on - pain in the
ass as it takes 15 minutes to attach trailer and rack on a pair of high
tensile bolts. Maybe not an option with commercial trailers.

Quoted message said:

Maybe I should have another look at panniers, and just accept the added risk
of broken spokes and axles that my stature seems to make inevitable in any
case.

that was way I built 4x wheels - it, plus going slower down hill and
spending more time ont he pedals on rough grounds tended to cut down on
broken spokes.

The only time I've broken axles (bolt ons) was when I was doing jumps
with some kids. Generally I tend to bend them and have slowly built up a
collection of bent axles.

Peter Signorini said:

The best one? Best I've seen is the Weber Monoporter, displayed at the
recent Bike Australia Show.

Is that just from your inspection? It does look good.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The monoporter can be bought as a complete setup for $1399.00 which

seems expensive, but that is just me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

includes the Trailer, Waterproof 80 litre pack and the Transporter bag.

I love to know how it handles with 80kg in it.
I suspect the curved tube from headstem to tray isn't going to last that
well.

Murray R. Van Luyn said:

Hmm, that's the 2nd report I've heard about the Bob coming undone. A
trailer breakdown in the bush wouldn't be life threatening, but it sure
could get expensive dumping everything and having to pedal off with just
the water.

Maybe I should have another look at panniers, and just accept the added
risk of broken spokes and axles that my stature seems to make inevitable
in any case.

Pssst! Four panniers and a racktop bag will carry more gear than a BOB bag,
and the bike handling on steep, rough or slippery surfaces will be far
better. As for broken gear - wheels built of 36 spokes (14g) should cope
with most weights and terrain bumps. But then I'm a lightweight so it's
difficult to compare.
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Cheers
Peter

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Terryc said:

Peter Signorini said:

The best one? Best I've seen is the Weber Monoporter, displayed at the
recent Bike Australia Show.

Is that just from your inspection? It does look good.

Yes, just checking out at the show. I'm not really a trailer afficionado,
have a BOB Yak but only use it occasionally. But the Monoporter sure loks
well put together and has some very fancy engineering to it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The monoporter can be bought as a complete setup for $1399.00 which

seems expensive, but that is just me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

includes the Trailer, Waterproof 80 litre pack and the Transporter bag.

I love to know how it handles with 80kg in it.
I suspect the curved tube from headstem to tray isn't going to last that
well.

You're damn right it is expensive, outside my budget. As for weight, I've
found even 25-30 kg on a trailer to be disconcertingly destabilizing to the
bike's handling. Much better in panniers. But the Monoporter is German-made,
and my experience of German gear is that it's of excellent design and very
well engineered. I doubt there'd be any problems with failure of the frame.
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Cheers
Peter

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Terryc said:

Peter Signorini said:

The best one? Best I've seen is the Weber Monoporter, displayed at the
recent Bike Australia Show.

Is that just from your inspection? It does look good.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The monoporter can be bought as a complete setup for $1399.00 which

seems expensive, but that is just me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

includes the Trailer, Waterproof 80 litre pack and the Transporter bag.

I love to know how it handles with 80kg in it.
I suspect the curved tube from headstem to tray isn't going to last that
well.

The Monoporter is meant to carry a maximum of 25 kg.

Cheers,

Vince