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  1. This has been my handle history with my miyata CF base...

    Reeder...good handle but [censored] for flatland because it hurts when it
    hits me.

    Kinport #1...body varial down from stand up ww, I clipped the handle on
    the way down. snap.

    KH handle... had to bend a lot to fit on the base so it flexed a lot
    and got smashed down easily.

    Kinport# 2...I got a brand new kinport and I was trying a Xavier style
    flatland trick that involved putting a lot of weight on the front of
    the seat and it bent down and kind of got pushed out on the bottom part
    where my old one snapped and it started to flex.

    So I kind of ran out of handle options so I decided to try to reinforce
    my kinport so it can't bend anymore in that one spot where my first one
    snapped. I drillled it and put 2 bolts through it near the bottom in a
    good place where it won't mess up how the handle fits on the base and
    it won't poke my fingers from the inside.

    I tried to drill my handle last night but I went outside and stepped on
    a bee so it got postponed:o

    I am not too sure how well this will actually work but hopefully it
    will be better off than before.

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  2. That's a pretty damn good idea.

    You're sexy.

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  3. does the fact that the handle isn't curved hurt your hand?

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  4. um asuming your both guys i would say that

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  5. skianduniaddict said:

    um asuming your both guys i would say that

    Welcome to sarcastic humour. It's so fun.

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  6. The 'GB4 handle reinforcement plate'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=614) will also stiffen
    up the Kinport handle (or any other handle with the Miyata bolt
    pattern). An alternative is to use 'big fender washers to reinforce
    the handle' (http://tinyurl.com/yn4xmu).

    Looks like the center hole on your Kinport is already starting to pull
    though. That's gonna cause flex.

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  7. where did you get a kinport? Nice solution if it works.

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    it wouldn't matter anyway.

    Ducttape said:

    A cx? yeah..... the seat isn't really a seat it's a brick in
    disguise.....


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  8. john_childs said:

    The 'GB4 handle reinforcement plate'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=614) will also stiffen
    up the Kinport handle (or any other handle with the Miyata bolt
    pattern). An alternative is to use 'big fender washers to reinforce
    the handle' (http://tinyurl.com/yn4xmu).

    Looks like the center hole on your Kinport is already starting to pull
    though. That's gonna cause flex.

    I dont think that would really help my problem though, it doesnt snap
    where it bolts on. Mine snap right here...
    [image:
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    and the new one has started to flex in the same place and it has gotten
    bulged out there too.

    I got my kinport from Darren, I don't think he is selling them anymore
    though.

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  9. Spencer Hochberg said:

    I dont think that would really help my problem though, it doesnt snap
    where it bolts on. Mine snap right here...

    I've been snapping handles in the same location... both Kinport and KH
    handles. I should probably upgrade to a CF handle, but I'm holding out
    for an ambidextrous version... if that's ever coming out 🙁

    Any other ideas? I'm fresh out...

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  10. maestro8 said:

    I've been snapping handles in the same location... both Kinport and KH
    handles. I should probably upgrade to a CF handle, but I'm holding out
    for an ambidextrous version... if that's ever coming out 🙁

    Any other ideas? I'm fresh out...

    Yeah, the choice of handles is way too limited. The miyata/lx handle is
    small and weak, the kh doesn't fit my base well, the kinport snaps, the
    reeder hurts...

    A CF kinport style handle would be nice. Possibly even a kinport style
    handle machined out of a chunk of light metal...

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  11. Spencer Hochberg said:

    I dont think that would really help my problem though, it doesnt snap
    where it bolts on. Mine snap right here...

    Some have failed up around the bolts. It's a vulnerable area. It
    doesn't hurt to reinforce it there with fender washers.

    One problem with comparing the failure modes of different Kinport
    handles is that not all of them were made the same. They went through
    several revisions. Some were thicker with more material where the
    bolts are because the early ones were failing there. You may have the
    more recent ones so now the failure point has moved to the next weakest
    spot.

    Your Frankenstein fix with the two bolts should stiffen that up.
    'Yoopers made a similar Frankenyata fix'
    (http://www.newyorkunicycle.com/howto/yoopersfix/) for the made in
    China Miyata handles.

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  12. Well, my solution helped for a while but I might have tightened the
    bolts too much or something. This time it cracked right next to the
    bolt. I think I am going to ditch the carbon fiber seat and just use a
    kh street seat...that way I can use the kh handle and have less
    problems except for flexy base. If I do that then I will put the reeder
    back on my CF seat and just use it for my muni.

    This is the crack...my isight camera isn't good in low light.
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  13. Have you tried the Death Grip handle?
    I don't know much about it, but I think they're custom made by Scott
    Wallis and they're supposed to be really strong.

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  14. Evan has one of those and I have tried it. He has a lefty one though and
    I use my right hand. I want a symmetrical handle I think...mostly I
    just don't want to spend $65 on a handle.
    I might go the Shaun way and use a viscount without a handle, less
    parts there to break.

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  15. bcwheelriderguyhehehehehe said:

    Good it's the way to go man. Bumper style freestyle handles are the
    best.

    haha thats what I learned to jump w/ 🙂
    really good for SIF too
    but anyways
    i have a Velo seat on my DX and I got rid of the flexing 100%
    completely, the weakest link on my uni is now my seatpost ... and not
    the weld either, the plate that the seat bolts to, but anyways I took
    the reinforcement plate that comes in it, welded 2 somewhat closely
    shaped plates to it, drilled them out, got stainless bolts that are too
    long and bolted it on. It is a dream, i love it...except now I have a
    bruise on my hand because its so stiff, and the handle is universal, i
    couldn't use your kinport for that reason.
    what if you get a reeder (if it is what I am thinking of) handle welded
    so that it has a curve added to the other end for safety reasons?

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  16. Here is my update for those who care.

    I first decided that I could run it without a handle and have nothing
    to worry about (other than potientially smashing my base and ripping my
    cover because I didn't have a front bumper). I tried it without a
    handle and I didnt like it at all, my hand was all smushed in there and
    way too close to me.

    So I put another KH handle back on. This time I used a cool cutout one
    that Evan made me. It feels really cool, it fits my hand well and looks
    cool. Last time I tightened it down all the way so the handle touched
    my base where it bolts on and since they aren't meant to fit together
    there was a pretty big gap so the handle was warped to fit in there.
    This time I shimmed it up a little bit more using all the washers I had
    (it turned out I only had 12 so there are 3 under each bolt). I am
    hoping that with it shimmed up it won't die like last time.

    Here are pictures of my cool cutout KH handle...
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    [image:
    http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q5/Spencer_Hochberg/Photo35.jpg]
    [image:
    http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q5/Spencer_Hochberg/Photo37.jpg]

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  17. That's pretty neat.

    I personally don't put my fingers in the handle to need that though.

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  18. i second that

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  19. I've thought about doing that before... Does it help for seat in
    unispins particularly? And, is it weaker?

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  20. Spencer Hochberg said:


    Here are pictures of my cool cutout KH handle...

    Nice seat mod. It will be interesting to hear how that cut out Kris
    Holm handle holds up. You have that on a Miyata style CF seat base
    right? That would explain the need for the washers to act as spacers.

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