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  1. I am trying to change out the bb which has an existing spindle length
    of 122.5mm. The diameter is 73mm. The bb I want is Shimano UN-73 which
    is offered in 113mm spindle length and 73mm diameter. My question is:
    will the Shimano fit? I have a GF Zebrano hybrid bike. Thanks for your
    help. I did a search and I couldn't find anything online or in the
    groups.

    Steven

  2. Do some more checking. You can find a sealed cartridge bracket with that
    spindle length. A shorter spindle length will probably not function
    properly (ie chainrings not clearing chainstay) Is your bike a triple?
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    Quoted message said:

    I am trying to change out the bb which has an existing spindle length
    of 122.5mm. The diameter is 73mm. The bb I want is Shimano UN-73 which
    is offered in 113mm spindle length and 73mm diameter. My question is:
    will the Shimano fit? I have a GF Zebrano hybrid bike. Thanks for your
    help. I did a search and I couldn't find anything online or in the
    groups.

    Steven

  3. No it won't fit, it's too short. 9.5mm, about 1/3 inch would most
    likely leave the crank arm or chain ring rubbing on the frame.

    Shimano bottom brackets ARE available in many different lengths (107
    109 110 113 115 117 119 122.5 127 131, etc) , look for one of about
    122.5 mm to match the one you removed. They also offer different
    quality levels, although the main difference is weight. Some use
    steel, plastic, or aluminum for part of the construction. All the
    shimano bbs are pretty reliable.

    the diameter is not 73 mm. that is the spec for the width of the
    bottom bracket shell part of the frame. 68 70 or 73 are common. It
    doesn't have to be exact, just close.

    What you want based on your question is a 73 x 122.5.

    Bottom brackets typically are 2 different diameters. The size you are
    working with and a much larger size common in department store bikes,
    old schwinnns, some bmx bikes. There is no confusing bb axles or
    cranks between the two.

    the next bit of fun is the end of the bb axles. 4 sided / square taper
    is common for older bikes. newer higher end racing equipment uses a
    completely different shape. Some are called octalink.

    Newer square taper crank arms tend to use shorter axles too. If you
    are not changing crank arms, look for the same length of axle you took
    out.

    The reason to match up the bb axle length is to keep the crank in the
    same relative position to the derailer, chain line and frame. Too
    short and the crank will rub on the frame. Too long and the front
    derailer might not be able to shift to the largest chainring. Way
    different and the overall shifting will suffer.

    Expect to need to do minor adjustments on the front derailer when you
    change bottom brackets.

    Quoted message said:

    I am trying to change out the bb which has an existing spindle length
    of 122.5mm. The diameter is 73mm. The bb I want is Shimano UN-73 which
    is offered in 113mm spindle length and 73mm diameter. My question is:
    will the Shimano fit? I have a GF Zebrano hybrid bike. Thanks for your
    help. I did a search and I couldn't find anything online or in the
    groups.

    Steven

  4. Ok, I'm going to answer my own question so hopefully others in the
    future can be helped. The diameter of 73mm is the number that matters
    the most. If I purchase a new bottom bracket, it has to be 73mm in
    diameter. The new spindle length can vary. It can be 122.5mm or it can
    be 113mm. It depends on the model of my choosing.

    So the answer to my question is yes, the Shimano bb that I want to
    purchase will fit into my bike because it is 73mm in diameter.

    Thanks to the bike shop in Pleasanton on Santa Rita Rd for explaining
    to me.

    Steven

  5. Excuse me, I got it slightly wrong. 73mm is the width, not the
    diameter. Doesn't matter anyways, I got the gist of it. The basic
    answer is yes the Shimano will fit my bike.

    Steven

  6. Quoted message said:

    Excuse me, I got it slightly wrong. 73mm is the width, not the
    diameter. Doesn't matter anyways, I got the gist of it. The basic
    answer is yes the Shimano will fit my bike.

    Steven

    Perhaps you ignored the previous posts. While the bottom bracket width
    may fit your bike, the shorter spindle is likely to cause you problems.
    The shorter spindle will bring the cranks and the chainrings closer to
    the frame. If you don't have enough clearance, the chainrings or the
    crank will hit the frame. Even if it doesn't hit the frame, you will
    have to readjust your front derailler or you will drop the chain onto
    your foot when you try to shift to the big chainring.

    You are better off buying the correct size.

    -Buck

  7. Quoted message said:

    You are better off buying the correct size.> -Buck

    I guess that would entail buying the same spec unit that I have on now?

    The problem I kept having was chain suck. Haven't had it yet since I
    exchanged my old bike for my new one (thank god!), but I'm worried that
    it might happen again.

    I was reading that a change in geometry might actually be helpful in
    this case because of the way the original specs were setup. My bike is
    notorious for chain suck. I talked with LBS serviceman and he said that
    all Gary Fishers, Trek, and so forth have design issues which are more
    likely to cause chain suck.

    Quoted message said:

    From the research I have done, the source of the problem is the chain


    rings. That's what I'm trying to change.

    Steven

  8. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You are better off buying the correct size.> -Buck

    I guess that would entail buying the same spec unit that I have on now?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    The problem I kept having was chain suck. Haven't had it yet since I
    exchanged my old bike for my new one (thank god!), but I'm worried that
    it might happen again.

    I was reading that a change in geometry might actually be helpful in
    this case because of the way the original specs were setup. My bike is
    notorious for chain suck. I talked with LBS serviceman and he said that
    all Gary Fishers, Trek, and so forth have design issues which are more
    likely to cause chain suck.

    Quoted message said:

    From the research I have done, the source of the problem is the chain


    rings. That's what I'm trying to change.

    I think your LBS service guy is yanking your chain.

    You can change the chain rings without changing the geometry of the
    bike or the cranks. Take a look at this website for some ideas on
    correcting the problem:
    http://www.fagan.co.za/Bikes/Csuck/

    If you really need a new set of chainrings, you may be able to get some
    more life out of them by flipping them over. Just remember that you
    should also replaced the stretched chain and perhaps even the cogs at
    the same time. In the future, keep an eye on your chain wear and
    replace it when worn so it doesn't cause the damage to more expensive
    parts.

    -Buck

  9. Quoted message said:

    I am trying to change out the bb which has an existing spindle length
    of 122.5mm. The diameter is 73mm. The bb I want is Shimano UN-73 which
    is offered in 113mm spindle length and 73mm diameter. My question is:
    will the Shimano fit? I have a GF Zebrano hybrid bike. Thanks for your
    help. I did a search and I couldn't find anything online or in the
    groups.

    Steven

    Un-73 BBs come in a variety of lengths, including 122.5 Get the same
    one you are replacing..i have one-call me

    http://www.vechhios.com

  10. Quoted message said:

    Un-73 BBs come in a variety of lengths, including 122.5 Get the same
    one you are replacing..i have one-call me

    http://www.vechhios.com

    Your website link does not work. And thanks to the guys that have
    helped out. You guys are so kind. 🙂

    So far so good, I've decided to hold off on buying any parts until I
    experience at least one incidence of chain suck but so far it hasn't
    happened. I have purchased a good size bottle of degreaser however, for
    cleaning my chain. Gotta love that Finish Line chain cleaner do-hickey.
    It really gets the job done for squeaky clean chains.

    Steven

  11. Quoted message said:

    Un-73 BBs come in a variety of lengths, including 122.5 Get the same
    one you are replacing..i have one-call me

    Quoted message said:

    From the research I have done, the UN-73 BBs do indeed come in 122.5


    length. Unfortunately they are not offered in a 73mm width along with
    the 122.5 length which is what I need. Thanks anyways, maybe I'll go
    with Truvativ.

    Steven

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