Just back.......

Martin Bulmer said:

Just back from holiday. I assume there was a thread about bells. Can
someone point me in the right direction please?

Try Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

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Chris

Chris Slade said:

Martin Bulmer said:

Just back from holiday. I assume there was a thread about bells. Can
someone point me in the right direction please?

Try Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

That just opens a reply window, doesn't take me to a thread, but thanks for
trying.
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Martin Bulmer

Martin Bulmer wrote on 17/09/2006 18:13 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Chris Slade said:

Martin Bulmer said:

Just back from holiday. I assume there was a thread about bells. Can
someone point me in the right direction please?

Try Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

That just opens a reply window, doesn't take me to a thread, but thanks for
trying.

Search for the thread with Unclean in the title. There is only one in
September. Of course if you had a decent newsreader...... ;-)

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Martin Bulmer said:

Chris Slade said:

Martin Bulmer said:

Just back from holiday. I assume there was a thread about bells. Can
someone point me in the right direction please?

Try Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

That just opens a reply window, doesn't take me to a thread, but thanks for
trying.

It's a message-id. If you don't know what to do with it, that's your
failing, not the poster's.

If you don't have anything else, try taking it groups.google.com and
sticking it somewhere.

regards, Ian SMith
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In article <[email hidden]>

Martin Bulmer said:

Chris Slade said:

Martin Bulmer said:

Just back from holiday. I assume there was a thread about bells. Can
someone point me in the right direction please?

Try Message-ID: <[email hidden]>

That just opens a reply window, doesn't take me to a thread, but thanks for
trying.

Install Gravity and clicking on the ID gives you the option to find the
article on Google Groups :-)

Rob Morley wrote on 17/09/2006 19:36 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Install Gravity and clicking on the ID gives you the option to find the
article on Google Groups :-)

As does Thunderbird with the MessageID-finder extension. Allows you to
find the article on Google, any of the news servers you are subscribed
to or the local store.
http://messageidfinder.mozdev.org/

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Response to Tony Raven:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Install Gravity and clicking on the ID gives you the option to find the
article on Google Groups :-)

As does Thunderbird with the MessageID-finder extension. Allows you to
find the article on Google, any of the news servers you are subscribed
to or the local store.
http://messageidfinder.mozdev.org/

However, using a combined email app and newsreader does increase the
risk of occasional misposts. ;-)

--
Mark, UK
"Nothing sets a person up more than having something turn out just the
way it's supposed to be, like falling into a Swiss snowdrift and seeing
a big dog come up with a little cask of brandy round its neck."

Mark McNeill wrote on 17/09/2006 20:56 +0100:

Quoted message said:

Response to Tony Raven:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Install Gravity and clicking on the ID gives you the option to find the
article on Google Groups :-)

As does Thunderbird with the MessageID-finder extension. Allows you to
find the article on Google, any of the news servers you are subscribed
to or the local store.
http://messageidfinder.mozdev.org/

However, using a combined email app and newsreader does increase the
risk of occasional misposts. ;-)

First one I've ever done actually.

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Tony Raven said:

Of course if you had a decent newsreader...... ;-)

Mmm so Thunderbird and Norwetya are not decent newsreaders. OE needs
"news" in front of an ID too, but then everyone <==spot the hyperbole
says OE is a heap... .

in message <[email hidden]>, Arthur dent

(') said:

Tony Raven said:

Of course if you had a decent newsreader...... ;-)

Mmm so Thunderbird and Norwetya are not decent newsreaders. OE needs
"news" in front of an ID too, but then everyone <==spot the hyperbole
says OE is a heap... .

According to the standard, it should require 'news:' in front of it.
Perhaps it does, in which case full marks to OE, fail to Gravity and
Thunderbird. Of course the general principle 'be conservative about what
you generate, liberal about what you accept' allows Gravity and
Thunderbird a get-out clause, but if you teach your users that they can
get away with being sloppy they may never learn how to do things
correctly - and then blame other people with correctly functioning
software for things not working.

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me down. I think I'll upgrade to MSLife 97 -- you know, the one that
comes in a flash new box and within weeks you're crawling with bugs.

Simon Brooke wrote on 18/09/2006 10:37 +0100:
..

Quoted message said:

According to the standard, it should require 'news:' in front of it.
Perhaps it does, in which case full marks to OE, fail to Gravity and
Thunderbird. Of course the general principle 'be conservative about what
you generate, liberal about what you accept' allows Gravity and
Thunderbird a get-out clause, but if you teach your users that they can
get away with being sloppy they may never learn how to do things
correctly - and then blame other people with correctly functioning
software for things not working.

I don't think either does it by a click of the ID. Tbird treats is as an
e-mail address too (don't know about Gravity) But unlike OE you can add
an extension that allows you to right click it and query it to a news
server of your choice thus solving the problem of strict non-compliance.

BTW Chris Slade who posted the message link in question was using KNode
at the time, so not full marks for KNode for creating the problem in the
first place.

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Response to Tony Raven:

Quoted message said:

I don't think either does it by a click of the ID. Tbird treats is as an
e-mail address too (don't know about Gravity)

"This text is ambiguous. Please choose one of the following actions.

Search for this message-id using Google

Reply to this email address

Cancel, do nothing."

--
Mark, UK
"The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests
and his own are the same."

In article <[email hidden]>
Tony Raven <[email hidden]> wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

I don't think either does it by a click of the ID. Tbird treats is as an
e-mail address too (don't know about Gravity)

Gravity pops up a box that says
"This text is ambiguous. Please choose one of the
following actions.
Search for this message-id using Google
Reply to this email address
Cancel, do nothing"

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

Simon Brooke wrote on 18/09/2006 10:37 +0100:
.

Quoted message said:

According to the standard, it should require 'news:' in front of it.
Perhaps it does, in which case full marks to OE, fail to Gravity and
Thunderbird. Of course the general principle 'be conservative about what
you generate, liberal about what you accept' allows Gravity and
Thunderbird a get-out clause, but if you teach your users that they can
get away with being sloppy they may never learn how to do things
correctly - and then blame other people with correctly functioning
software for things not working.

I don't think either does it by a click of the ID. Tbird treats is as an
e-mail address too (don't know about Gravity) But unlike OE you can add
an extension that allows you to right click it and query it to a news
server of your choice thus solving the problem of strict non-compliance.

BTW Chris Slade who posted the message link in question was using KNode
at the time, so not full marks for KNode for creating the problem in the
first place.

KNode, which is what I'm using just now, has nothing to do with the
problem; it does not automatically generate message references in the body
text. It's luser error.

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Simon Brooke wrote on 18/09/2006 15:05 +0100:

Quoted message said:

KNode, which is what I'm using just now, has nothing to do with the
problem; it does not automatically generate message references in the body
text. It's luser error.

One assumes he lifted the message reference from his newsreader and if
the reference was properly formatted it would seem odd that he would
only copy and paste half of it. But ICBW

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

(') said:

Simon Brooke wrote on 18/09/2006 15:05 +0100:

Quoted message said:

KNode, which is what I'm using just now, has nothing to do with the
problem; it does not automatically generate message references in the
body text. It's luser error.

One assumes he lifted the message reference from his newsreader and if
the reference was properly formatted it would seem odd that he would
only copy and paste half of it. But ICBW

No, you're right, and I stand corrected. Or, to be more precise, I sit; but
there you go.

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-- Think Droid

Simon Brooke said:

KNode, which is what I'm using just now, has nothing to do with the
problem; it does not automatically generate message references in the body
text. It's luser error.

You may be right, I cut and pasted it from the headers in the message. Hand
formatting seemed superfluous at the time, but you live and learn...

Yet another reason to dislike knode.
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Chris