I've got a tire repair kit (from Greater AZ Bicyle Assn) that has small
patches that work GREAT for road tubes. I got some Park patch kits and the
patches are HUGE by comparison.
Where to get the smaller patches?
John
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I've got a tire repair kit (from Greater AZ Bicyle Assn) that has small
patches that work GREAT for road tubes. I got some Park patch kits and the
patches are HUGE by comparison.
Where to get the smaller patches?
John
John Crankshaw said:Where to get the smaller patches?
In your sewing kit? Apply a scissor? Regards, Roy Zipris
Per Roy Zipris:
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Where to get the smaller patches?
In your sewing kit? Apply a scissor? Regards, Roy Zipris
Been there, done that. You lose the tapering for one thing. For another,
the two pieces (assuming you cut a patch in half) aren't the greatest shape.
I just use the bigger patches, but smaller patches would be preferable for me
too.
--
PeteCresswell
John Crankshaw said:I've got a tire repair kit (from Greater AZ Bicyle Assn) that has small
patches that work GREAT for road tubes. I got some Park patch kits and the
patches are HUGE by comparison.Where to get the smaller patches?
John
What you want is a box of Maruni BB-Patch patches.
They're made by Maruni Industries in Japan.
They're only 24mm in diameter - perfect for bicycle patching. Find a
local distributor and buy a box of 200. Our bike shops charge 60c each,
but I paid something like 12c when I bought the whole box.
JB
(PeteCresswell) said:Been there, done that. You lose the tapering for one thing. For another,
the two pieces (assuming you cut a patch in half) aren't the greatest shape.
In a pinch you can add a taper back to the cut edge with an X-acto
knife. It isn't ideal but it is still better than leaving an abrubt
step on the surface of the tube.
It is really irritating that the kits I can get locally have only two
small round patches two medium rectangular patches and one huge
rectangular patch. I really wish there were an easy source where I
could get just the small round ones.
John Crankshaw said:I've got a tire repair kit (from Greater AZ Bicycle Assn) that has
small patches that work GREAT for road tubes. I got some Park patch
kits and the patches are HUGE by comparison.
Quoted message said:Where to get the smaller patches?
Typically for thorns, a smaller patch would be appropriate.
REMA makes 25mm and 15mm patches but has no web site other than retail
references to their products. Here is a picture of the small patches:
in comparison to the large ones:
I don't know where the local distributor is but your bicycle store
probably does.
Jobst Brandt
amakyonin said:(PeteCresswell) said:Been there, done that. You lose the tapering for one thing. For another,
the two pieces (assuming you cut a patch in half) aren't the greatest shape.In a pinch you can add a taper back to the cut edge with an X-acto
knife. It isn't ideal but it is still better than leaving an abrubt
step on the surface of the tube.It is really irritating that the kits I can get locally have only two
small round patches two medium rectangular patches and one huge
rectangular patch. I really wish there were an easy source where I
could get just the small round ones.
The friendly Rivendell folks have them... a bit costly at $10/10 patches
plus glue. It looks like they buy the patches bulk from Velox and
package them with the other bits.
John Crankshaw said:I've got a tire repair kit (from Greater AZ Bicyle Assn) that has small
patches that work GREAT for road tubes. I got some Park patch kits and the
patches are HUGE by comparison.Where to get the smaller patches?
This kit has small patches that work well on road tubes. Two tubes of
vulcanizing fluid as well:
http://tinyurl.com/g7lvg
Quoted message said:John Crankshaw said:I've got a tire repair kit (from Greater AZ Bicycle Assn) that has
small patches that work GREAT for road tubes. I got some Park patch
kits and the patches are HUGE by comparison.Quoted message said:Where to get the smaller patches?
Typically for thorns, a smaller patch would be appropriate.
REMA makes 25mm and 15mm patches but has no web site other than retail
references to their products. Here is a picture of the small patches:in comparison to the large ones:
I don't know where the local distributor is but your bicycle store
probably does.Jobst Brandt
Dear Jobst,
I have a box of 100 of the "1-inch" FO Rema patches.
The size claims are ridiculously confusing.
The carrier is an inch and a quarter square, not an inch.
The round patch is about 20 mm across at the thin orange rim.
The black round center is about 15mm wide.
Box of 100 Rema "1-inch" patches, $14.75, labeled "FO" (Feathered size
zero?) but listed by resellers as "F1P" (Feathered 1-inch Patch?):
http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=378227047037&d=single&c=Tire-Tube&sc=Repair-Kits-and-Supplies&tc=Patches&item_id=RE-F1P
or http://tinyurl.com/lvewp
Eight-ounce can of Rema glue for $9.95, enough to keep a whole high
school happy:
http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=378227047037&d=single&c=Tire-Tube&sc=Repair-Kits-and-Supplies&tc=Cement&item_id=RE-203
or http://tinyurl.com/onkwo
A thread last summer explored the strange sizing. They seem to be
1-inch square/15mm round and 2-inch square/25mm round:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/9d339ba346ad7887/e326c2d1998cf137?lnk=gst&q=carl+rema&rnum=1#e326c2d1998cf137
or http://tinyurl.com/f47p8
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
Quoted message said:
REMA makes 25mm and 15mm patches but has no web site other than retail
references to their products.
There is this:
http://www.rematiptop.com/trm.htm
BC
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Quoted message said:I've got a tire repair kit (from Greater AZ Bicyle Assn) that has small
patches that work GREAT for road tubes. I got some Park patch kits and the
patches are HUGE by comparison.Where to get the smaller patches?
John
I just recieved a box of 100 small Rema patches from Bike Tools. Sizes
available include 20 mm round, 1 inch round (25 mm), and 2 inch oval. The
size I usually see available at LBS is the 1 inch, but I like the smaller 20
mm patches:
http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=378227047037&d=single&c=Tire-Tube&sc=Repair-Kits-and-Supplies&tc=Patches&item_id=RE-F0P
-mC
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news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:I've got a tire repair kit (from Greater AZ Bicyle Assn) that has small
patches that work GREAT for road tubes. I got some Park patch kits and
the
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:patches are HUGE by comparison.
Where to get the smaller patches?
John
I just recieved a box of 100 small Rema patches from Bike Tools. Sizes
available include 20 mm round, 1 inch round (25 mm), and 2 inch oval. The
size I usually see available at LBS is the 1 inch, but I like the smaller
20
Quoted message said:mm patches:
Quoted message said:-mC
BTW, I just measured with a metric scale the Rema patches that I recieved
and that were listed as being "20 mm round."
The actual diameter of these small patches is 15 mm.
-mC
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<[email hidden]>,
amakyonin said:(PeteCresswell) said:Been there, done that. You lose the tapering for one thing. For another,
the two pieces (assuming you cut a patch in half) aren't the greatest shape.In a pinch you can add a taper back to the cut edge with an X-acto
knife. It isn't ideal but it is still better than leaving an abrubt
step on the surface of the tube.It is really irritating that the kits I can get locally have only two
small round patches two medium rectangular patches and one huge
rectangular patch. I really wish there were an easy source where I
could get just the small round ones.
Sheesh!
<http://www.icyclesusa.com/catalog/new/rema-tip-top-bicycle-tube-patch-refills-20.htm>
--
Michael Press
B.Drums said:Quoted message said:REMA makes 25mm and 15mm patches but has no web site other than retail
references to their products.
Quoted message said:There is this:
http://www.rematiptop.com/trm.htm
Now isn't that poor of Google not to find that when searching for
REMA? I'll have to ask the REMA man at InterBike what the letters
stand for. I understand Tip Top alright. This web site doesn't
mention the bicycle product line nor where the mane REMA arose other
than a long story about Mr. Klouza and his beginnings in the business.
Thanks,
Jobst Brandt
Michael Press said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Been there, done that. You lose the tapering for one thing. For
another, the two pieces (assuming you cut a patch in half) aren't
the greatest shape.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:In a pinch you can add a taper back to the cut edge with an X-acto
knife. It isn't ideal but it is still better than leaving an abrupt
step on the surface of the tube.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:It is really irritating that the kits I can get locally have only
two small round patches two medium rectangular patches and one huge
rectangular patch. I really wish there were an easy source where I
could get just the small round ones.
http://www.icyclesusa.com/catalog/new/rema-tip-top-bicycle-tube-patch-refills-20.htm
Although there is mention of 20mm patches on the main page, when you
click on the detail they show only 25mm patches. Besides, the $3.94
for 20 patches doesn't make clear what size patches these are while
the picture that comes up when clicking on it, shows a 100ea box of
25mm patches.
Jobst Brandt
In article <[email hidden]>,
Quoted message said:Michael Press said:Quoted message said:> Been there, done that. You lose the tapering for one thing. For
> another, the two pieces (assuming you cut a patch in half) aren't
> the greatest shape.Quoted message said:Quoted message said:In a pinch you can add a taper back to the cut edge with an X-acto
knife. It isn't ideal but it is still better than leaving an abrupt
step on the surface of the tube.Quoted message said:Quoted message said:It is really irritating that the kits I can get locally have only
two small round patches two medium rectangular patches and one huge
rectangular patch. I really wish there were an easy source where I
could get just the small round ones.http://www.icyclesusa.com/catalog/new/rema-tip-top-bicycle-tube-patch-refills-20.htm
Although there is mention of 20mm patches on the main page, when you
click on the detail they show only 25mm patches. Besides, the $3.94
for 20 patches doesn't make clear what size patches these are while
the picture that comes up when clicking on it, shows a 100ea box of
25mm patches.
I grabbed the first URL in a search that gives an
uncomplicated web page offering a practical quantity of
quality small patches. I was not writing a monograph on
tire patching. The OP wants small patches; he can do the
rest of the work. What's 5 mm among friends?
--
Michael Press
MykalCrooks said:BTW, I just measured with a metric scale the Rema patches that I recieved
and that were listed as being "20 mm round."
Quoted message said:The actual diameter of these small patches is 15 mm.
I guess that depends on where you measure. With the small ones, the
black area is 15 mm, the patch altogether 20 mm, and with the larger
ones, 17--19 mm and 23--25 mm (depending on whether you measure
between the tops or the bottoms of the sawtooth edge), all measurements
approximate and applicable manufacturing tolerances apply. The backing
paper is 30 mm square for either size.
I used to be able to get the 20 mm size, 'Innovation" brand patches in
100 ct. boxes. I have been told that Innovations stopped selling this
item several years ago and I didn't find a souce of the 20 mm patches.
I think the Rema actully has them with their tubular tire patch kit,
but not in bulk. I got some of those loose last year at Interbike.
There is also a Chinese company that sells the patch on large sheets
to people who could use them in private label patch kits. The
quantity they offer as a minimum was in the thousands.
"O-V R:nen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:MykalCrooks said:BTW, I just measured with a metric scale the Rema patches that I
recieved
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:and that were listed as being "20 mm round."
Quoted message said:The actual diameter of these small patches is 15 mm.
I guess that depends on where you measure. With the small ones, the
black area is 15 mm, the patch altogether 20 mm, and with the larger
ones, 17--19 mm and 23--25 mm (depending on whether you measure
between the tops or the bottoms of the sawtooth edge), all measurements
approximate and applicable manufacturing tolerances apply. The backing
paper is 30 mm square for either size.
Yeah, it's the diameter of the black patch area that is 15 mm. Or less. The
ones I measured are not exactly round. 15 mm across one way, as little as 12
mm across the other. The red-brown colored intermediate layer that is
feathered out does have larger diameter.
Regardless, these are the SMALL ones -- Rema Tip-Top F0:
I wallowed around at several LBSs trying to find these patches. Buyers
apparently are not particular about what size they stock, and the shops
normally just stock the larger ones. One shop had them available for 25
cents each for a while, but when they were gone they stayed gone. If these
15 mm patches are what the OP wants, then these are what the OP is probably
going to have to insist upon.
-mC
Quoted message said:John Crankshaw said:I've got a tire repair kit (from Greater AZ Bicycle Assn) that has
small patches that work GREAT for road tubes. I got some Park patch
kits and the patches are HUGE by comparison.Quoted message said:Where to get the smaller patches?
Typically for thorns, a smaller patch would be appropriate.
REMA makes 25mm and 15mm patches but has no web site other than retail
references to their products. Here is a picture of the small patches:
I'm guessing Jobst is refering to the REMA F0-P patches, which are
actually 16mm in diameter (but who's quibbling over a lousy 1mm?).
A google search for "rema f0-p" turned up 21 hits. Most of these are
places where you can order these in boxes of 100.
Actually there seems to be some confusion over these, as many of the
found sites list the F0-P patches as 20mm.
Okay, after typing the above I went down and measured the FP-0 patches
in my box of 100. They pretty uniformly measure 18mm. ;-)
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