Out of curiosity I checked the highlights MP3 from today's show. There was one outake about cycling:
Caller: Now I'm a sensible road user, I'm aware of cars but in five minutes I've been nearly written off on three separate occasions and on the return journey I had three car doors opened on me so how can you say that normal motorists are considerate towards cyclists?
Neil Mitchell: Oh well it must have been your fault
Caller: Oh oh clearly must have been *chuckles*
Neil Mitchell: Well I tell you something,
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
"Euan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Out of curiosity I checked the highlights MP3 from today's show. There was one outake about cycling:
Caller: Now I'm a sensible road user, I'm aware of cars but in five minutes I've been nearly written off on three separate occasions and on the return journey I had three car doors opened on me so how can you say that normal motorists are considerate towards cyclists?
Neil Mitchell: Oh well it must have been your fault
Caller: Oh oh clearly must have been *chuckles*
Neil Mitchell: Well I tell you something,
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
Nice to have the media onside eh? -- Cheers Euan
Neil Mitchell is a rabid anti-cyclist. I gave up listening to the opinionated so-and-so ages ago.
Out of curiosity I checked the highlights MP3 from today's show. There was one outake about cycling:
Caller: Now I'm a sensible road user, I'm aware of cars but in five minutes I've been nearly written off on three separate occasions and on the return journey I had three car doors opened on me so how can you say that normal motorists are considerate towards cyclists?
Neil Mitchell: Oh well it must have been your fault
Caller: Oh oh clearly must have been *chuckles*
Neil Mitchell: Well I tell you something,
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
Nice to have the media onside eh?
That was five minutes you could have spent cleaning and lubing your chain. Neil Mitchell!?
Out of curiosity I checked the highlights MP3 from today's show. There was one outake about cycling:
Caller: Now I'm a sensible road user, I'm aware of cars but in five minutes I've been nearly written off on three separate occasions and on the return journey I had three car doors opened on me so how can you say that normal motorists are considerate towards cyclists?
Neil Mitchell: Oh well it must have been your fault
Caller: Oh oh clearly must have been *chuckles*
Neil Mitchell: Well I tell you something,
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
Nice to have the media onside eh? -- Cheers Euan
Hmmm...now while I don't doubt that Mr. Mitchell has produced some truly remarkable kneejerk tossery in the past, I'd be inclined to suggest that if someone has three separate incidents that nearly wrote them off in the space of five minutes then it actually probably *was* their fault. I cover 150-200km per week and I have someone startle me perhaps once every month or two. If you're being frightened every time you go out, there's really only one common element.
Hmmm...now while I don't doubt that Mr. Mitchell has produced some truly remarkable kneejerk tossery in the past, I'd be inclined to suggest that if someone has three separate incidents that nearly wrote them off in the space of five minutes then it actually probably *was* their fault. I cover 150-200km per week and I have someone startle me perhaps once every month or two. If you're being frightened every time you go out, there's really only one common element.
That was my first thought too. Could have been phrased better though.
On 2006-07-18, Resound (aka Bruce) was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
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Euan said:
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
Nice to have the media onside eh?
Hmmm...now while I don't doubt that Mr. Mitchell has produced some truly remarkable kneejerk tossery in the past, I'd be inclined to suggest that if someone has three separate incidents that nearly wrote them off in the space of five minutes then it actually probably *was* their fault. I cover 150-200km per week and I have someone startle me perhaps once every month or two. If you're being frightened every time you go out, there's really only one common element.
Their fault in so far as they were nervous riders who were riding legally, but not defensively enough by being too close to the door zone. The car occupants opening the door were still the ones principally (and entirely legally) at fault.
-- TimC "Consider a spherical bear, in simple harmonic motion..." -- Professor in the UCB physics department
On 2006-07-18, Resound (aka Bruce) was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
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Euan said:
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
Nice to have the media onside eh?
Hmmm...now while I don't doubt that Mr. Mitchell has produced some truly remarkable kneejerk tossery in the past, I'd be inclined to suggest that if someone has three separate incidents that nearly wrote them off in the space of five minutes then it actually probably *was* their fault. I cover 150-200km per week and I have someone startle me perhaps once every month or two. If you're being frightened every time you go out, there's really only one common element.
Their fault in so far as they were nervous riders who were riding legally, but not defensively enough by being too close to the door zone. The car occupants opening the door were still the ones principally (and entirely legally) at fault.
-- TimC "Consider a spherical bear, in simple harmonic motion..." -- Professor in the UCB physics department
Yeah, I'm not really looking at the dooring so much...that's down to people not looking before opening the door. Sure, anyone riding on the road needs to position themselves appropriately, duty of care *does* go both ways but I was thinking more of general traffic scares. Some things will catch you out regardless of what you do, but three unrelated incidents in the space of five minutes speaks of either remarkably bad luck or poor roadcraft. I see people do really dumb stuff in front of me all the time, some of which even require me to take action, but it's not action of the scary emergency evasion type but rather a sit up, slow down and prepare to dodge the bits type action. If I wasn't paying attention to what's going on around me, some of these things could turn into a dangerous situation but in that scenario I'd be partially responsible for any injuries I incurred.
Out of curiosity I checked the highlights MP3 from today's show. There was one outake about cycling:
Caller: Now I'm a sensible road user, I'm aware of cars but in five minutes I've been nearly written off on three separate occasions and on the return journey I had three car doors opened on me so how can you say that normal motorists are considerate towards cyclists?
Neil Mitchell: Oh well it must have been your fault
Caller: Oh oh clearly must have been *chuckles*
Neil Mitchell: Well I tell you something,
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
Nice to have the media onside eh? -- Cheers Euan
Hmmm...now while I don't doubt that Mr. Mitchell has produced some truly remarkable kneejerk tossery in the past, I'd be inclined to suggest that if someone has three separate incidents that nearly wrote them off in the space of five minutes then it actually probably *was* their fault. I cover 150-200km per week and I have someone startle me perhaps once every month or two. If you're being frightened every time you go out, there's really only one common element.
Maybe not their "fault" as such, but it would be hard to say that they weren't excercising good roadcraft.
Like you, I ride, a -lot-, and rarely have near misses etc. Maybe a scare every 6 months or so?
Hmmm...now while I don't doubt that Mr. Mitchell has produced some truly remarkable kneejerk tossery in the past, I'd be inclined to suggest that if someone has three separate incidents that nearly wrote them off in the space of five minutes then it actually probably *was* their fault. I cover 150-200km per week and I have someone startle me perhaps once every month or two. If you're being frightened every time you go out, there's really only one common element.
That was my first thought too. Could have been phrased better though.
Could depend a lot on the value of 'near miss tho' I guarentee that if you ride down say Chapel st at 10 am you will have 3 people open thier door on you. Becouse this is us and we have a clue we are unlikely to be cought... (its still possible tho.... easy to think of circumstances where you might make an 'oops' which is why it happens rarely cos we are awake to the possibilities) But if all the evasion is ours then it could be considered a near miss if you see what I mean. I would feel required to yell "BOO" or something 🙂 Dave
Out of curiosity I checked the highlights MP3 from today's show. There was one outake about cycling:
Caller: Now I'm a sensible road user, I'm aware of cars but in five minutes I've been nearly written off on three separate occasions and on the return journey I had three car doors opened on me so how can you say that normal motorists are considerate towards cyclists?
Neil Mitchell: Oh well it must have been your fault
Caller: Oh oh clearly must have been *chuckles*
Neil Mitchell: Well I tell you something,
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
Nice to have the media onside eh? -- Cheers Euan
Hmmm...now while I don't doubt that Mr. Mitchell has produced some truly remarkable kneejerk tossery in the past, I'd be inclined to suggest that if someone has three separate incidents that nearly wrote them off in the space of five minutes then it actually probably *was* their fault. I cover 150-200km per week and I have someone startle me perhaps once every month or two. If you're being frightened every time you go out, there's really only one common element.
Maybe not their "fault" as such, but it would be hard to say that they weren't excercising good roadcraft.
Like you, I ride, a -lot-, and rarely have near misses etc. Maybe a scare every 6 months or so?
Hmmm. If I had cut into the bike lane without looking today I would have been collected by the fairly quick jag with 2 wheels up on the footpath. Not a near miss cos I was looking. But you know, I did all the dodging, I would call it an incident that could have written me off you know
Hmmm...now while I don't doubt that Mr. Mitchell has produced some truly remarkable kneejerk tossery in the past, I'd be inclined to suggest that if someone has three separate incidents that nearly wrote them off in the space of five minutes then it actually probably *was* their fault. I cover 150-200km per week and I have someone startle me perhaps once every month or two. If you're being frightened every time you go out, there's really only one common element.
I've had nothing for six months, then three life-threateners in one trip home.
Out of curiosity I checked the highlights MP3 from today's show. There was one outake about cycling:
Caller: Now I'm a sensible road user, I'm aware of cars but in five minutes I've been nearly written off on three separate occasions and on the return journey I had three car doors opened on me so how can you say that normal motorists are considerate towards cyclists?
Neil Mitchell: Oh well it must have been your fault
Caller: Oh oh clearly must have been *chuckles*
Neil Mitchell: Well I tell you something,
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
Nice to have the media onside eh? -- Cheers Euan
I recognise the name... is Neil Mitchell a journo for one of the papers, as well?
"Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Euan said:
Out of curiosity I checked the highlights MP3 from today's show. There was one outake about cycling:
Caller: Now I'm a sensible road user, I'm aware of cars but in five minutes I've been nearly written off on three separate occasions and on the return journey I had three car doors opened on me so how can you say that normal motorists are considerate towards cyclists?
Neil Mitchell: Oh well it must have been your fault
Caller: Oh oh clearly must have been *chuckles*
Neil Mitchell: Well I tell you something,
Caller: *inaudible*when I had right of way?
Neil Mitchell: you must have done something wrong if in the space of five (corrects himself) in a matter of minutes you've had six incidents.
Nice to have the media onside eh? -- Cheers Euan
I recognise the name... is Neil Mitchell a journo for one of the papers, as well?
Tam
Neil Mitchell is a top rating talkback radio host in Melbourne on radio station 3AW. I used to listen to him a long while ago, agreeing with many things he talked about. He is quite opinionated and hates teachers and, you guessed it - cyclists. I've heard several of his rants against cyclists. He's on a winner there - when would you listen to his show? While riding a bicycle? Not on your life! Most of his listeners are drivers, so any rants against cyclists are welcome. Neil has the gift of the gab, and takes delight in out-talking anyone attempting to reason with him or ridicule him. If he can't out talk them, then he uses the power of "the big red switch" and cuts them off in mid stride. If he doesn't do that, then he ridicules them after they have hung up, and by airing subsequent rants against the unfortunate caller by other listeners. A long while ago I thought he was good, but it took a couple of asinine topics to put me off him. For the past couple of years I've been commuting on my bicycle and haven't listened to radio at all.
Neil also writes every week for the Herald/Sun in Melbourne.
