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"Can You Hear A Tomato Cry...???"

Gregory Morrow · 2006-06-17T20:09:37+00:00

A further reason people refer to this outfit as "Whole Fools"... http://www.nydailynews.com/business/story/427288p-360374c.html Whole Foods won't sell live lobsters BY MARIA SHEAHAN and JOSH FINEMAN BLOOMBERG NEWS "Whole Foods Market, the largest natural-foods grocery chain, will stop selling live lobsters and soft-shell crabs as part of its policy of treating animals humanely. Only frozen lobster products from suppliers that meet handling and processing standards developed during a seven-month evaluation will make it into Whole Foods stores. Lobsters and crabs "have some degree of awareness, feeling pain and having the ability to learn," Whole Foods said in a statement. Many lobsters spend several months in storage facilities before being displayed in supermarket tanks, the company said. One marine biologist disagrees with Whole Foods' assessment of lobsters. "We don't believe they feel pain and there are a number of studies that back this up," said Bob Bayer, professor and executive director at the Lobster Institute at the University of Maine. "They really don't have a brain. These are really not kind and gentle animals." The institute receives donations from the lobster industry, Bayer said. Whole Foods may resume selling live lobsters if it finds improvements in the handling to ensure humane treatment, Margaret Wittenberg, vice president of quality standards at Whole Foods, said in an interview. "We don't sell live cattle and chickens in our stores," Wittenberg said. "This is an issue about the live aspects of lobsters, the treatment and well being." About 183 million pounds of lobsters are caught in the U.S. and Canada annually, and 25% of them are sold live, Bayer said. Wild Oats Markets, the No. 2 natural-foods grocer, has never sold live lobsters at its stores because it considers the practice inhumane, spokeswoman Sonja Tuitele said. CEO John Mackey opened the first Whole Foods store in Austin, Texas, in 1980. Mackey, 52, is a vegan who has said the company will be one of the first to adopt humane animal treatment standards."

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Gregory Morrow
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17 June 2006, 20:09 UTC #1

A further reason people refer to this outfit as "Whole Fools"...
http://www.nydailynews.com/business/story/427288p-360374c.html
Whole Foods won't sell live lobsters
BY MARIA SHEAHAN and JOSH FINEMAN
BLOOMBERG NEWS
"Whole Foods Market, the largest natural-foods grocery chain, will stop
selling live lobsters and soft-shell crabs as part of its policy of treating
animals humanely.
Only frozen lobster products from suppliers that meet handling and
processing standards developed during a seven-month evaluation will make it
into Whole Foods stores.
Lobsters and crabs "have some degree of awareness, feeling pain and having
the ability to learn," Whole Foods said in a statement.
Many lobsters spend several months in storage facilities before being
displayed in supermarket tanks, the company said.
One marine biologist disagrees with Whole Foods' assessment of lobsters.
"We don't believe they feel pain and there are a number of studies that back
this up," said Bob Bayer, professor and executive director at the Lobster
Institute at the University of Maine. "They really don't have a brain. These
are really not kind and gentle animals."
The institute receives donations from the lobster industry, Bayer said.
Whole Foods may resume selling live lobsters if it finds improvements in the
handling to ensure humane treatment, Margaret Wittenberg, vice president of
quality standards at Whole Foods, said in an interview.
"We don't sell live cattle and chickens in our stores," Wittenberg said.
"This is an issue about the live aspects of lobsters, the treatment and well
being."
About 183 million pounds of lobsters are caught in the U.S. and Canada
annually, and 25% of them are sold live, Bayer said. Wild Oats Markets, the
No. 2 natural-foods grocer, has never sold live lobsters at its stores
because it considers the practice inhumane, spokeswoman Sonja Tuitele said.
CEO John Mackey opened the first Whole Foods store in Austin, Texas, in
1980.
Mackey, 52, is a vegan who has said the company will be one of the first to
adopt humane animal treatment standards."
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aem
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17 June 2006, 20:21 UTC #2

Gregory Morrow said:
A further reason people refer to this outfit as "Whole Fools"...
[snip]
"Whole Foods Market, the largest natural-foods grocery chain, will stop
selling live lobsters and soft-shell crabs as part of its policy of treating
animals humanely. [snip]
That's their prerogative and it will probably sit well with a lot of
their customers. I'd rather shop at the Asian markets where fish and
shellfish and crustaceans are available live if you want them. I have
never bought dead, pre-cooked crabs or lobsters. Buying them live
gives me control over the cooking and, obviously, the freshest possible
result. I don't really care whether a lobster can feel pain or has any
sort of brain to process that information, but if other people do care,
that doesn't bother me either. -aem

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-L.
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17 June 2006, 20:30 UTC #3

Gregory Morrow said:
A further reason people refer to this outfit as "Whole Fools"...
http://www.nydailynews.com/business/story/427288p-360374c.html
Whole Foods won't sell live lobsters
Good for them. Lobsters and their relatives have largest nerve cells
of any other species - it's used as a model system for drugs which
affect the ion channels in nerve pathways. They certainly feel pain.
Plus, one last outlet for the fishermen raping the oceans for profit.
Way to go, WF!
-L.

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Nathalie Chiva
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17 June 2006, 20:31 UTC #4

Gregory Morrow said:
A further reason people refer to this outfit as "Whole Fools"...
http://www.nydailynews.com/business/story/427288p-360374c.html
Whole Foods won't sell live lobsters
BY MARIA SHEAHAN and JOSH FINEMAN
BLOOMBERG NEWS
"Whole Foods Market, the largest natural-foods grocery chain, will stop
selling live lobsters and soft-shell crabs as part of its policy of treating
animals humanely.
Only frozen lobster products from suppliers that meet handling and
processing standards developed during a seven-month evaluation will make it
into Whole Foods stores.
Frozen lobsters are *foul*.
Nathalie in Switzerland

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Mark Thorson
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17 June 2006, 21:13 UTC #5

Not only can we hear tomatos cry, but modern
scientific instruments allow deep understanding
of their emotional states.
http://treefern.apana.org.au/~cmf/tomato.jpg

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T
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17 June 2006, 22:19 UTC #6

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted message said:
Not only can we hear tomatos cry, but modern
scientific instruments allow deep understanding
of their emotional states.
http://treefern.apana.org.au/~cmf/tomato.jpg
Oooh to funny. I actually had some very nice cherry tomatoes last night.
Chopped em' up along with some chopped onion over asparagus and then
broiled. Yum!

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Michel Boucher
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17 June 2006, 23:03 UTC #7

Mark Thorson <[email hidden]> wrote in news:44947095.857EC3A1
@sonic.net:
Quoted message said:
Not only can we hear tomatos cry, but modern
scientific instruments allow deep understanding
of their emotional states.
http://treefern.apana.org.au/~cmf/tomato.jpg
Clearly.
Bwahaha!!!!!!
--
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why
the poor have no food, they call me a communist."
Dom Helder Camara

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Gregory Morrow
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17 June 2006, 23:24 UTC #8

-L. said:
Gregory Morrow said:
A further reason people refer to this outfit as "Whole Fools"...
http://www.nydailynews.com/business/story/427288p-360374c.html
Whole Foods won't sell live lobsters
Good for them. Lobsters and their relatives have largest nerve cells
of any other species - it's used as a model system for drugs which
affect the ion channels in nerve pathways. They certainly feel pain.
They *inflict* pain too...they are voracious predators in their natural
habitats.
I say "just desserts" and all that...
Quoted message said:
Plus, one last outlet for the fishermen raping the oceans for profit.
What -- you think the fisherman should fish for free? You are simply
spewing more leftist eco - babble...
--
Best
Greg

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