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  1. Hi,

    You may have already read about our campaign, and if so, please feel
    free to skip to the end! We set this campaign up after long discussions
    on the Cycling Plus forum about accidents, near misses, and overtaking
    that removes a layer of skin from your elbow and a layer of paint from
    you bike.

    And why is it that even though you've got twin lights that are brighter
    than the sun, reflective and day-glo bits from your overshoes to your
    helmet and you sleep with a copy of Cyclecraft under your pillow, you
    still don't get seen by the guy coming out of the junction 50 yards in
    front of you?

    Rant over, with apologies!

    At the same time someone else asked if anyone knew where to get 'I pull
    out for cyclists' window stickers - similar to the ones about horses
    that everyone has seen. After much hunting around, it seemed that no-one
    could find them anywhere. So we thought we'd do it ourselves, and the
    logo you see above is the result. large, bold and simple. Any
    resemblance to me is purely coincidental!

    On a more serious note, we're donating money to Roadpeace, Essex Air
    Ambulance and we're supplying stickers to cycling clubs at a discount
    for them to sell on for club coffers. We're also planning to donate to
    the Dave Rayner Fund and the Braveheart Fund which support young racers
    from Scotland (where I am) and England and Wales (where most of you
    are!). Please feel free to make recommendations for any other good
    (cycling related) causes.

    NEWS!

    Buses

    Those of you in South Yorkshire will be seeing the logo of the backs of
    increasing numbers of buses, thanks to Robert Sheperdson of South
    Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive, who seems to be almost as
    evangelical as we are!

    Obviously this is a great thing as we firmly believe that the more
    people who see the logo, the more chance there is that we'll get the
    room we need on the roads as the message drip-feeds into drivers. If any
    of you are involved with fleet vehicles, whether Council Vans, Buses or
    large-scale logistics, please get in touch!

    Leeds Uni

    The University of Leeds will be incorporating the stickers into their
    Bike Week campaign, and there are several other smaller projects for the
    week that we're helping to promote. The key messages we're pushing are
    that cyclists need 'Road-Room' and that we need safer cycling for Bike
    Week - and every other week too!

    Give Cyclists Room in London!

    We've been invited to the City of London Police's Bike Week Bike Show in
    the Guidhall Yard on the 21st and 22nd June (Wed & Thurs), where we'll
    be pushing our message out to the public alongside

    -City of London Police cycle Patrol team
    -Roads Policing unit
    -Corporation of London
    -Endura
    -Evans Cycles
    -Datatag
    -Abus
    -Immobilise.com
    -CDRP (City)
    -Dr Bike
    -Epping forest Police
    -Road Safety organisation
    -Transport for London
    -London Ambulance Service

    Feel free to pop down and say hello! We'll not only be talking to the
    public, but we'll also be having a friendly word with TfL about Bendy
    Buses, and seeing if we can't work together to get the message out with
    them too. Ahh, the irony of getting wedged against railing by a bendy
    bus with a 'Give Cyclists Room' logo on the back! Our thinking is that
    if the driver sees the logo as he turns up for work, there's more chance
    of him thinking about it when he sees a 15mph cyclist 50 yards from his
    next stop.

    Oh yes, since we're doing this on a limited budget, feel free to bring
    an extra coffee! I take mine white, no sugar (insert fluttering
    eyelashes here!)

    Sample Letter

    We recently had reason to compose a snotty letter to a local bus
    company, and we were so pleased with the result that we decided to post
    it on the website (with details removed to protect the guilty chap) -
    lets just say the driver will be waiting patiently behind cyclists from
    now on! Please feel free to use some, all, or none of it if you have
    cause to write your own. And by saying that you're 'involved in a
    cycling safety campaign', I'd include reading newsletters and buying
    stickers!

    Blowing Our Own Trumpet!

    We swithered (there's a good Scottish word for you!) about mentioning
    this one, but we received the Congratulations of the Scottish Parliament
    a while back. This was supported by MSPs of all political stripes, from
    the Conservatives to the Scottish Socialist Party via the Greens! OK so
    it doesn't, in and of itself, make much difference to the behaviour of
    drivers, which is how we'd choose to measure our success, but it keeps
    it on the political horizon.

    Give Cyclists Room—
    That the Parliament congratulates Justin Beattie of Helensburgh on
    setting up the “Give Cyclists Room” campaign to promote greater
    awareness of cyclists on Britain’s roads; notes that awareness is being
    raised through a new website, www.givecyclistsroom.co.uk, and the sale
    of car window stickers; acknowledges that the grassroots campaign has
    been set up to alert drivers and cyclists alike to the fact that the
    single largest cause of collisions and near-collisions for cyclists is
    when other road users fail to appreciate just how much space a cyclist
    requires on the road; notes that in 2004 a total of 134 cyclists were
    killed on Britain’s roads and 2,174 were seriously injured, while
    14,340 suffered from other injuries; wishes the campaign every success
    for the future, and encourages the Scottish Executive to alert other
    road users to their safety responsibilities in respect of cyclists in
    any road safety information and literature.

    Thanks for taking the time to read this newsletter, and if you don't
    want me to keep you informed occasionally about what we're up to and our
    larger news stories, just reply to say "Stop hassling me!" or words to
    that effect.

    --

    Justin Beattie
    Campaign Manager
    Give Cyclists Room

  2. 'Natch the motor of The Unfit Family has a "Give Cyclists Room" sticker in
    the rear window...

    http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/wafflycat/GCR002.jpg

    Cheers, helen s

  3. wafflycat said:


    'Natch the motor of The Unfit Family has a "Give Cyclists Room" sticker
    in the rear window...

    http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/wafflycat/GCR002.jpg

    Cheers, helen s


    Hi Helen!

    [waves]

    Are there any cycling-related fora you don't post on?

    [grins]

    Justin

  4. Jim Price said:
    Padbeat said:

    So we thought we'd do it ourselves, and the logo you see above is the
    result. large, bold and simple. Any resemblance to me is purely
    coincidental!

    Simple I'll grant you. Large, bold and logo didn't seem to work too well
    in a text only newsgroup.

    Dammit! I knew there was a flaw in that plan!

    You can see it at www.givecyclistsroom.co.uk!

    Justin

  5. Padbeat said:

    So we thought we'd do it ourselves, and the
    logo you see above is the result. large, bold and simple. Any
    resemblance to me is purely coincidental!

    Simple I'll grant you. Large, bold and logo didn't seem to work too well
    in a text only newsgroup.

    --

    JimP

    " " - John Cage

  6. Padbeat said:
    Jim Price said:
    Padbeat said:

    So we thought we'd do it ourselves, and the logo you see above is the
    result. large, bold and simple. Any resemblance to me is purely
    coincidental!

    Simple I'll grant you. Large, bold and logo didn't seem to work too well
    in a text only newsgroup.


    Dammit! I knew there was a flaw in that plan!

    You can see it at www.givecyclistsroom.co.uk!

    It works even better when you don't shout or surprise us with it
    though. :-) www.givecyclistsroom.co.uk

    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  7. Padbeat said:
    Jim Price said:
    Padbeat said:

    So we thought we'd do it ourselves, and the logo you see above is the
    result. large, bold and simple. Any resemblance to me is purely
    coincidental!

    Simple I'll grant you. Large, bold and logo didn't seem to work too
    well in a text only newsgroup.


    Dammit! I knew there was a flaw in that plan!

    You can see it at www.givecyclistsroom.co.uk!


    Yep, that's more like it.

    --

    JimP

    " " - John Cage


  8. Quoted message said:

    Hi Helen!

    [waves]

    Are there any cycling-related fora you don't post on?

    [grins]

    Justin

    I'm like the bad penny ;-)

  9. Jim Price said:
    Padbeat said:

    So we thought we'd do it ourselves, and the logo you see above is the
    result. large, bold and simple. Any resemblance to me is purely
    coincidental!

    Simple I'll grant you. Large, bold and logo didn't seem to work too well
    in a text only newsgroup.

    JimP

    " " - John Cage

    I just thought it was a John Cage version ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
    his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
    - Leonardo da Vinci

  10. Quoted message said:

    Obviously this is a great thing as we firmly believe that the more
    people who see the logo, the more chance there is that we'll get the
    room we need on the roads as the message drip-feeds into drivers. If
    any of you are involved with fleet vehicles, whether Council Vans,
    Buses or large-scale logistics, please get in touch!


    Getting the stickers to Halfords would be good too since they have an
    interest in motorists and cyclists.
    --
    del 8-)

  11. Padbeat said:

    You can see it at www.givecyclistsroom.co.uk!

    Instead of give cylcists room, or somthing inflamatory like "stay out
    of my lane", I'd prefer "Yes, I am stopped at a red light -- you're not
    seeing things", or "When I stick my arm out it means I'm intending to
    turn", or perhaps "No, I don't take your wingmirror off"

    Having said that, most (90%+) car drivers never cause me any problem.
    It's WVM parked up in cycle lanes, or busses overtaking then pulling
    straight in, that cause the problem.

    Vanishing cycle-lanes and no markings don't help either.

  12. Paul Weaver said the following on 14/06/2006 11:35:

    Quoted message said:

    Instead of give cylcists room, or somthing inflamatory like "stay out
    of my lane", I'd prefer "Yes, I am stopped at a red light -- you're not
    seeing things",

    Nah - that'll never work. Cars will have to stop at red lights as well!

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  13. wafflycat said:

    'Natch the motor of The Unfit Family has a "Give Cyclists Room" sticker in
    the rear window...

    http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/wafflycat/GCR002.jpg

    Isn't that trailer a bit heavy to pull?

    ...d

  14. Paul Weaver said:

    Instead of give cylcists room, or somthing inflamatory like "stay out
    of my lane", I'd prefer "Yes, I am stopped at a red light -- you're not
    seeing things", or "When I stick my arm out it means I'm intending to
    turn", or perhaps "No, I don't take your wingmirror off"

    or "No, I don't take your wing mirror off but if you pass that close
    again I'll ensure you are passing it"

    aggressively..

    ...d

  15. David Martin said:
    wafflycat said:

    http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/wafflycat/GCR002.jpg

    Isn't that trailer a bit heavy to pull?

    I liked the Einstein one:

    http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/wafflycat/?action=view&current=Einste
    in006.jpg

  16. del said:
    Quoted message said:

    Obviously this is a great thing as we firmly believe that the more
    people who see the logo, the more chance there is that we'll get the
    room we need on the roads as the message drip-feeds into drivers. If
    any of you are involved with fleet vehicles, whether Council Vans,
    Buses or large-scale logistics, please get in touch!


    Getting the stickers to Halfords would be good too since they have an
    interest in motorists and cyclists.

    Will there be any in evidence at the York Rally?
    I'd definitely pick up a few if there are..

    ...d

  17. "Simon Bennett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    David Martin said:
    wafflycat said:

    http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/wafflycat/GCR002.jpg

    Isn't that trailer a bit heavy to pull?

    I liked the Einstein one:

    http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/wafflycat/?action=view&current=Einste
    in006.jpg

    Albert knows a thing or two...

    http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/wafflycat/?action=view&current=Einstein003.jpg

    Cheers, helen s

  18. David Martin said:
    del said:
    Quoted message said:

    Obviously this is a great thing as we firmly believe that the more
    people who see the logo, the more chance there is that we'll get the
    room we need on the roads as the message drip-feeds into drivers. If
    any of you are involved with fleet vehicles, whether Council Vans,
    Buses or large-scale logistics, please get in touch!

    Getting the stickers to Halfords would be good too since they have an
    interest in motorists and cyclists.

    Will there be any in evidence at the York Rally?
    I'd definitely pick up a few if there are..

    ..d


    I'm afraid not, unless one of the clubs are taking them. The campaign
    consists of 4 cyclists and a whole lot of sympathisers!

    Justin

  19. Padbeat said:
    David Martin said:
    del said:

    On Wednesday 14 Jun 2006 00:30 Padbeat, wrote:

    > Obviously this is a great thing as we firmly believe that the more
    > people who see the logo, the more chance there is that we'll get the
    > room we need on the roads as the message drip-feeds into drivers. If
    > any of you are involved with fleet vehicles, whether Council Vans,
    > Buses or large-scale logistics, please get in touch!
    >

    Getting the stickers to Halfords would be good too since they have an
    interest in motorists and cyclists.

    Will there be any in evidence at the York Rally?
    I'd definitely pick up a few if there are..

    ..d


    I'm afraid not, unless one of the clubs are taking them. The campaign
    consists of 4 cyclists and a whole lot of sympathisers!

    Justin

    If perhaps you could get one of the retailers at York to sell them I am
    sure they will go fast.

    Sam Salt

  20. In message <[email hidden]>, David
    Martin <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    del said:
    Quoted message said:

    Obviously this is a great thing as we firmly believe that the more
    people who see the logo, the more chance there is that we'll get the
    room we need on the roads as the message drip-feeds into drivers. If
    any of you are involved with fleet vehicles, whether Council Vans,
    Buses or large-scale logistics, please get in touch!


    Getting the stickers to Halfords would be good too since they have an
    interest in motorists and cyclists.

    Will there be any in evidence at the York Rally?
    I'd definitely pick up a few if there are..

    ..d


    Its also the Great Yorkshire Bike Ride this Saturday, 1500 cyclists
    riding out from Wetherby to Filey. Pity you didn't post the newsletter a
    week back, I could maybe have organised something (I've known the event
    organiser, John, for many years). I'm doing the ride, so don't have time
    to do any selling myself. Could maybe one of the local clubs sort a few
    bodies to hawk stickers at the event?
    (Already got a sticker on the car!)
    --
    steve

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