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  1. Hi folks,

    I've owned a couple of decent bikes in the past, but have moved to Brazil
    and been bought a somewhat cheaper model (Shimano parts etc. it doesn't
    have). The bike arrived flat packed so I had to setup the gears and brakes,
    as well as assembling other bits 'n' bobs.

    Most of the bike is OK, but I can't seem to get the brake pads to line up
    properly with the rims. One end of the pad is significantly closer to the
    rim than the other. Practical upshot, they're not working very well and I
    can't stop the bike going down hills. Not a good thing.

    They're direct-pull cantilever brakes on a mountain bike. I've looked at
    Sheldon's guide, but as far as I can see I've tried everything outlined
    there. I'll try to take some photos to illustrate the problem.

    I'm basically wondering if there's anything I can do, short of buying a new
    brake set, or whether it's normal for lower quality bikes?

    TIA

  2. in message <[email hidden]>, StainlessSteelRat

    (') said:

    Hi folks,

    I've owned a couple of decent bikes in the past, but have moved to
    Brazil and been bought a somewhat cheaper model (Shimano parts etc. it
    doesn't have). The bike arrived flat packed so I had to setup the gears
    and brakes, as well as assembling other bits 'n' bobs.

    Most of the bike is OK, but I can't seem to get the brake pads to line
    up properly with the rims. One end of the pad is significantly closer
    to the rim than the other. Practical upshot, they're not working very
    well and I can't stop the bike going down hills. Not a good thing.

    They're direct-pull cantilever brakes on a mountain bike. I've looked
    at Sheldon's guide, but as far as I can see I've tried everything
    outlined there. I'll try to take some photos to illustrate the problem.

    I'm basically wondering if there's anything I can do, short of buying a
    new brake set, or whether it's normal for lower quality bikes?

    There are some truly [censored] bikes out there with truly [censored] brakes. But
    most of them can at least be set up reasonably, even if they won't work
    very well. Some photographs would help.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    [ This .sig subject to change without notice ]

  3. StainlessSteelRat said:

    Hi folks,

    I've owned a couple of decent bikes in the past, but have moved to
    Brazil and been bought a somewhat cheaper model (Shimano parts etc.
    it doesn't have). The bike arrived flat packed so I had to setup the
    gears and brakes, as well as assembling other bits 'n' bobs.

    Most of the bike is OK, but I can't seem to get the brake pads to
    line up properly with the rims. One end of the pad is significantly
    closer to the rim than the other. Practical upshot, they're not
    working very well and I can't stop the bike going down hills. Not a
    good thing.

    They're direct-pull cantilever brakes on a mountain bike. I've looked
    at Sheldon's guide, but as far as I can see I've tried everything
    outlined there. I'll try to take some photos to illustrate the
    problem.

    I'm basically wondering if there's anything I can do, short of buying
    a new brake set, or whether it's normal for lower quality bikes?

    Some better brake blocks might help: ones with "orbital adjustment" that
    allow the block to be pivoted, or ones with more adjustment if yours do
    have some. The more expensive Kool Stop models are good. But this might
    not be enough if the problem is very bad. How big is the error?

    ~PB

  4. StainlessSteelRat said:

    Hi folks,

    I've owned a couple of decent bikes in the past, but have moved to Brazil
    and been bought a somewhat cheaper model (Shimano parts etc. it doesn't
    have). The bike arrived flat packed so I had to setup the gears and brakes,
    as well as assembling other bits 'n' bobs.

    Most of the bike is OK, but I can't seem to get the brake pads to line up
    properly with the rims. One end of the pad is significantly closer to the
    rim than the other.

    Is it not possible to shape the brake pads with a Stanley Knife so there
    is more contact with the rims.

  5. Simon Brooke said:

    There are some truly [censored] bikes out there with truly [censored] brakes. But
    most of them can at least be set up reasonably, even if they won't
    work very well. Some photographs would help.

    Thanks for the reply. I think it might just be [censored], but there's a bike shop
    a couple of blocks from here and I'm tempted to take it there. I have a
    feeling that being a Brazilian bike shop they might be able to work
    miracles.

    Failing that I'll take some photos and post the links.

  6. Pete Biggs said:

    Some better brake blocks might help: ones with "orbital adjustment"
    that allow the block to be pivoted, or ones with more adjustment if
    yours do have some. The more expensive Kool Stop models are good.
    But this might not be enough if the problem is very bad. How big is
    the error?

    Thanks for the reply. The difference is so big that even pulling the brake
    levels to their maximum extent I can't stop the bike on a hill. This is with
    at least one brake block already rubbing, as I got to the end of my patience
    trying to adjust them. There's probably a 3 or 4mm gap at one end of the
    brake block when the other is touching the rim.

    I'll try and take some photos.

  7. Joseph said:

    Is it not possible to shape the brake pads with a Stanley Knife so
    there is more contact with the rims.

    It's a possibility perhaps, but it would mean cutting a lot from the blocks.
    I need to have another look at the bike to be sure I'm not missing something
    stupid, and perhaps have a chat with the local cycle shop (although it
    wasn't bought there). Brazil's a rather odd place, and there are this
    tuppeny ha'penny cycle shops every few blocks (at least in São Paulo). Most
    don't have much to sell, but perhaps they have some skill with setting the
    bike up.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>

    StainlessSteelRat said:

    Hi folks,

    I've owned a couple of decent bikes in the past, but have moved to Brazil
    and been bought a somewhat cheaper model (Shimano parts etc. it doesn't
    have). The bike arrived flat packed so I had to setup the gears and brakes,
    as well as assembling other bits 'n' bobs.

    Most of the bike is OK, but I can't seem to get the brake pads to line up
    properly with the rims. One end of the pad is significantly closer to the
    rim than the other. Practical upshot, they're not working very well and I
    can't stop the bike going down hills. Not a good thing.

    They're direct-pull cantilever brakes on a mountain bike. I've looked at
    Sheldon's guide, but as far as I can see I've tried everything outlined
    there. I'll try to take some photos to illustrate the problem.

    I'm basically wondering if there's anything I can do, short of buying a new
    brake set, or whether it's normal for lower quality bikes?


    Even the nastiest bikes can usually be coaxed into some semblance of
    functionality - the problem is the time it takes to do it, and that once
    done it may not last very long as parts wear or deform. Getting them to
    work can take some hammering and bending, but if you hit the wrong bit
    or bend too far you can break parts or dangerously weaken them.
    Without any pictures I can't really make specific suggestions.

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