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  1. Just had another e-mail back from le Management; I need to produce a
    racing licence or doctor's certificate to get a placing otherwise

    "a defaut vous seriez classifie cyclotourist"

    I assume this means I won't get a placing without one but can still
    ride as a Randonneur?
    (as I have no licence and my GP certainly won't sanction such a ride
    having not seen me in 5 years), I hope I won't arrive there to be told
    "non". Anyone any experience of their rules?

  2. Quoted message said:

    and my GP certainly won't sanction such a ride
    having not seen me in 5 years),

    Um, is the doctors note to say you're well? In that case wouldn't not
    seeing him in five years bode well? Wouldn't he just do a brief checkup
    anyway, then sign the letter for you?

  3. Mark Thompson said:
    Quoted message said:

    and my GP certainly won't sanction such a ride
    having not seen me in 5 years),

    Um, is the doctors note to say you're well? In that case wouldn't not
    seeing him in five years bode well? Wouldn't he just do a brief checkup
    anyway, then sign the letter for you?

    for a fee; GP's get fairly fed up with time wasters in addition to
    their normal workload and charge them accordingly; if it's just for a
    placing I'm happy to go without. My 12yo was faced with a £20 fee to
    say he was OK to go on a US scout camp.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    MartinM () said:

    Just had another e-mail back from le Management; I need to produce a
    racing licence or doctor's certificate to get a placing otherwise

    "a defaut vous seriez classifie cyclotourist"

    I assume this means I won't get a placing without one but can still
    ride as a Randonneur?
    (as I have no licence and my GP certainly won't sanction such a ride
    having not seen me in 5 years), I hope I won't arrive there to be told
    "non". Anyone any experience of their rules?

    A friend required a medical stiffticket to be allowed to compete in the
    World HPV Championships in France this year and got one from his GP for
    the princely sum of eleven of the BRITONS' pounds. Quite why he didn't
    get his wife - a qualified though non-practicing MD - to write it is
    something of a mystery.

    FWIW one is required for The French Ride too, so get one, scan it and
    change the date for next year ;-)

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    This Unit is a productive Unit.

  5. MartinM said:

    Just had another e-mail back from le Management; I need to produce a
    racing licence or doctor's certificate to get a placing otherwise

    In France, all racers must get a doctor's certificate at periodic
    intervals. The doctor that signs it must be certified for "Medicine
    du Sport".

    Some (if not all the clubs) also request a similar certificate for
    regular admission. But here they also accept certificates issued
    by a family doctor (a generalist).

    So, what the e-mail means is that you must present either the license
    (that implies you had the medical test) or that you take the test
    yourself at any generalist.

    All this is required for legal and ensurance coverage.

    Quoted message said:

    "a defaut vous seriez classifie cyclotourist"

    I assume this means I won't get a placing without one but can still
    ride as a Randonneur?

    It means you will be considered as Randonneur. In other words: you will
    run on your own. What this translate in practice I cannot tell, it varies
    from tour to tour.

    I would try to get the certificate. There are no dedicated tests required.
    All the doctor must say is that there are no counter-indications for you
    practicing biking.

    Such certificates are usually accepted up to 12 months after the issuing
    date.

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  6. Dave Larrington said:

    FWIW one is required for The French Ride too,

    doesn't that one have to be countersigned by a qualified psychiatrist?

  7. Roberto Divia said:
    MartinM said:

    Just had another e-mail back from le Management; I need to produce a
    racing licence or doctor's certificate to get a placing otherwise

    In France, all racers must get a doctor's certificate at periodic
    intervals. The doctor that signs it must be certified for "Medicine
    du Sport".

    Some (if not all the clubs) also request a similar certificate for
    regular admission. But here they also accept certificates issued
    by a family doctor (a generalist).

    So, what the e-mail means is that you must present either the license
    (that implies you had the medical test) or that you take the test
    yourself at any generalist.

    All this is required for legal and ensurance coverage.

    Quoted message said:

    "a defaut vous seriez classifie cyclotourist"

    I assume this means I won't get a placing without one but can still
    ride as a Randonneur?

    It means you will be considered as Randonneur. In other words: you will
    run on your own. What this translate in practice I cannot tell, it varies
    from tour to tour.

    I would try to get the certificate. There are no dedicated tests required.
    All the doctor must say is that there are no counter-indications for you
    practicing biking.

    Such certificates are usually accepted up to 12 months after the issuing
    date.

    Thanks, the rules;
    http://www.sportcommunication.com/newsite/reglement04.pdf
    say more or less that. Working in a hospital you would think such
    things were easy to obtain, although the fact that I tell the medics at
    work about my exploits does not apparently enable them to give a
    professional opinion about my general health. I shall have to wait
    until the bruised rib I sustained trying to emulate my 13yo's stunt
    jump at the weekend (1) heals a bit before I present myself to my GP.
    (1) and just to add fuel to the fire yes I was, and yes the bike landed
    on it, and dented it.

  8. MartinM said:

    professional opinion about my general health. I shall have to wait
    until the bruised rib I sustained trying to emulate my 13yo's stunt
    jump at the weekend (1) heals a bit before I present myself to my GP.

    I wouldn't worry about that. Any GP will be able to ignore bruised ribs.

    When I asked for a medical note from my GP, he just checked that I was
    already doing lots of exercise and then wrote the note. I had to pay
    a small amount (10 quid?).

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune

  9. Arthur Clune said:
    MartinM said:

    professional opinion about my general health. I shall have to wait
    until the bruised rib I sustained trying to emulate my 13yo's stunt
    jump at the weekend (1) heals a bit before I present myself to my GP.

    I wouldn't worry about that. Any GP will be able to ignore bruised ribs.

    When I asked for a medical note from my GP, he just checked that I was
    already doing lots of exercise and then wrote the note. I had to pay
    a small amount (10 quid?).

    I should be able to get one from Occ Health at work; will have to pay
    tho they are well used to supplying Medical Services for the Med
    Students

    see you for the Dales Grimpeur; I shall have a badgerbadgerbadger on my
    bars

  10. MartinM said:

    see you for the Dales Grimpeur; I shall have a badgerbadgerbadger on my
    bars

    Sadly I won't be there. I've had a cold that left me feeling constantly
    tired for four weeks. I've now had a week off the bike and finally feel
    well again, but I'm want to wait another week before I try anything
    like the Grimper I'm afraid.

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune

  11. MartinM said:

    Just had another e-mail back from le Management; I need to produce a
    racing licence or doctor's certificate to get a placing otherwise

    "a defaut vous seriez classifie cyclotourist"

    I assume this means I won't get a placing without one but can still
    ride as a Randonneur?
    (as I have no licence and my GP certainly won't sanction such a ride
    having not seen me in 5 years), I hope I won't arrive there to be told
    "non". Anyone any experience of their rules?

    I needed one for the 2003 etape. I also haven't seen my GP in years. In
    fact I'm not sure she's even still practising. So I just went to a
    walk-in clinic in Twickenham and laid down some folding stuff for it.
    Took about 10 minutes.

    Actually I suppose I ought to think about a full medical. I'm a little
    past the age when men are supposed to start falling apart.

    --
    Dave...

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