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  1. aloha
    Archived post
    #21

    i'm using X10-93 SILVER chain and MISSING LINK 10-SPEED
    and take m on and off all the time
    its very conveniend
    I CAN remember the first time to take it off it took some thinking
    I use pliers (carefull) and keep these at a weird angle to unclick
    would be hard to do without pliers / it's just a click away, but would
    be awkward to do with your fingers only

    mt
    holland

    On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    during installation

    Report
  2. Email address hidden
    Archived post
    #22
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    [email hidden] wrote:
    > On 24 May 2006 20:04:49 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> On 24 May 2006 19:48:23 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >
    > >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:26:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:02:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 18:55:16 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>
    > >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    > >> >> >> >> >> >during installation
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> Dear Sammy,
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> It's advertised as removable.
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >Is it now? Let's go to the source:
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/hlq9d
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >Click on "missing link"
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >See: installation instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel knows more than KMC does
    > >> >> >> >> >about their own product. And he's ready to prove it with a big dollop
    > >> >> >> >> >of passive-aggressive "humor".
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >Care to share, Fogel?
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >"Cheers"
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> ><Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
    > >> >> >> >point or withdraw.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
    > >> >> >with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
    > >> >> >as removable".
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Prove your point or withdraw.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
    > >> >
    > >> >Dear Carl,
    > >> >
    > >> >I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
    > >> >Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
    > >> >so. Please advise.
    > >> >
    > >> >Cheers!
    > >> >OZ
    > >>
    > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    > >
    > >Prove the relevance, please!
    > >>
    > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
    > >
    > >This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
    > >
    > >I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
    > >no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
    >
    > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6

    Dear Carl,

    Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
    anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
    post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.

    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.

    Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
    Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
    admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
    removable"?

    Sad.

    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source

    Report
  3. Ozark Bicycle
    Archived post
    #23
    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    Quoted message said:

    On 25 May 2006 03:36:48 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >
    >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> On 24 May 2006 20:04:49 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:48:23 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >
    >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:26:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:02:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 18:55:16 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >during installation
    >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Sammy,
    >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> It's advertised as removable.
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >Is it now? Let's go to the source:
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/hlq9d
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >Click on "missing link"
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >See: installation instructions.
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel knows more than KMC does
    >> >> >> >> >> >about their own product. And he's ready to prove it with a big dollop
    >> >> >> >> >> >of passive-aggressive "humor".
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >Care to share, Fogel?
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >"Cheers"
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> ><Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
    >> >> >> >> >point or withdraw.
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
    >> >> >> >with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
    >> >> >> >as removable".
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Prove your point or withdraw.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Dear Carl,
    >> >> >
    >> >> >I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
    >> >> >Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
    >> >> >so. Please advise.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Cheers!
    >> >> >OZ
    >> >>
    >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    >> >
    >> >Prove the relevance, please!
    >> >>
    >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
    >> >
    >> >This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
    >> >
    >> >I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
    >> >no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
    >>
    >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
    >
    >
    >Dear Carl,
    >
    >Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
    >anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
    >post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.

    Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
    Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
    admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
    removable"?

    Sad.

    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about KMC
    Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will do
    anything to avoid admitting your error.

    Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)

    Cheers,
    Oz

    "Carl Fogel /wrong/? I'm shocked! Shocked!"

    Report
  4. Email address hidden
    Archived post
    #24
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    [email hidden] wrote:
    > On 25 May 2006 03:36:48 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> On 24 May 2006 20:04:49 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >
    > >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:48:23 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:26:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:02:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 18:55:16 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >during installation
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Sammy,
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> It's advertised as removable.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Is it now? Let's go to the source:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/hlq9d
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Click on "missing link"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >See: installation instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel knows more than KMC does
    > >> >> >> >> >> >about their own product. And he's ready to prove it with a big dollop
    > >> >> >> >> >> >of passive-aggressive "humor".
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Care to share, Fogel?
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >"Cheers"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> ><Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
    > >> >> >> >> >point or withdraw.
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
    > >> >> >> >with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
    > >> >> >> >as removable".
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Prove your point or withdraw.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Dear Carl,
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
    > >> >> >Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
    > >> >> >so. Please advise.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Cheers!
    > >> >> >OZ
    > >> >>
    > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    > >> >
    > >> >Prove the relevance, please!
    > >> >>
    > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
    > >> >
    > >> >This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
    > >> >
    > >> >I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
    > >> >no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
    > >>
    > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
    > >
    > >
    > >Dear Carl,
    > >
    > >Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
    > >anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
    > >post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.
    > >
    > >Cheers,
    > >Oz
    >
    > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.

    Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
    Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
    admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
    removable"?

    Sad.

    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about KMC
    Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will do
    anything to avoid admitting your error.

    Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)

    Cheers,
    Oz

    "Carl Fogel /wrong/? I'm shocked! Shocked!"

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf?dmode=source

    Report
  5. Ozark Bicycle
    Archived post
    #25
    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    Quoted message said:

    On 25 May 2006 10:16:30 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >
    >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> On 25 May 2006 03:36:48 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> On 24 May 2006 20:04:49 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >
    >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:48:23 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:26:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:02:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 18:55:16 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >during installation
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Sammy,
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's advertised as removable.
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is it now? Let's go to the source:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/hlq9d
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >Click on "missing link"
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >See: installation instructions.
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel knows more than KMC does
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >about their own product. And he's ready to prove it with a big dollop
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >of passive-aggressive "humor".
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >Care to share, Fogel?
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >"Cheers"
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> ><Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>
    >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
    >> >> >> >> >> >point or withdraw.
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
    >> >> >> >> >with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
    >> >> >> >> >as removable".
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >Prove your point or withdraw.
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Dear Carl,
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
    >> >> >> >Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
    >> >> >> >so. Please advise.
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Cheers!
    >> >> >> >OZ
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Prove the relevance, please!
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
    >> >> >
    >> >> >This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
    >> >> >no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
    >> >>
    >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >Dear Carl,
    >> >
    >> >Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
    >> >anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
    >> >post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.
    >> >
    >> >Cheers,
    >> >Oz
    >>
    >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source
    >
    >Dear Carl,
    >
    >Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.
    >
    >Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
    >Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
    >admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
    >removable"?
    >
    >Sad.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about KMC
    Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will do
    anything to avoid admitting your error.

    Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)

    Cheers,
    Oz

    "Carl Fogel /wrong/? I'm shocked! Shocked!"

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    I see you have nothing to say regarding KMC Missing Links.

    I'll take this as your admission the you shot your cyber-mouth off
    without knowing your ass from your elbow.

    Just a typical Carl Fogel, eh?

    Cheers,
    Oz

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  6. Paul Hobson
    Archived post
    #26

    [total waste of bandwidth snipped]

    Wow. Sure am glad y'all proved those points. Out into the real world I
    go with my new outlook on life!
    \\paul

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  7. John Forrest Tomlinson
    Archived post
    #27
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    [email hidden] wrote:
    > On 25 May 2006 03:36:48 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> On 24 May 2006 20:04:49 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >
    > >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:48:23 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:26:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:02:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 18:55:16 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >during installation
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Sammy,
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> It's advertised as removable.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Is it now? Let's go to the source:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/hlq9d
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Click on "missing link"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >See: installation instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel knows more than KMC does
    > >> >> >> >> >> >about their own product. And he's ready to prove it with a big dollop
    > >> >> >> >> >> >of passive-aggressive "humor".
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Care to share, Fogel?
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >"Cheers"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> ><Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
    > >> >> >> >> >point or withdraw.
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
    > >> >> >> >with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
    > >> >> >> >as removable".
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Prove your point or withdraw.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Dear Carl,
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
    > >> >> >Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
    > >> >> >so. Please advise.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Cheers!
    > >> >> >OZ
    > >> >>
    > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    > >> >
    > >> >Prove the relevance, please!
    > >> >>
    > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
    > >> >
    > >> >This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
    > >> >
    > >> >I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
    > >> >no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
    > >>
    > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
    > >
    > >
    > >Dear Carl,
    > >
    > >Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
    > >anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
    > >post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.
    > >
    > >Cheers,
    > >Oz
    >
    > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.

    Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
    Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
    admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
    removable"?

    Sad.

    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about KMC
    Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will do
    anything to avoid admitting your error.

    Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)

    Reminds me of my distinct impression of your making up the story about
    someone bragging about buying a helmet for $189.

    I didn't even ask you to prove me wrong, just to state that you heard
    such a thing. Still no answer....

    JT

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  8. gary jacobson
    Archived post
    #28

    "Antti Salonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I can spoil this by revealing that I have removed the Missing Link on my
    KMC X-10 dozens of times. No problems. I can't see how there even
    could be a problem, as the link is pretty much identical to the SRAM
    PowerLink. It doesn't know how many times it has been removed and
    reattached.

    -as

    Good to learn that the Missing Link *is* reusable. The instructions in the
    10 speed KMC chain I just put on says that it is not reusable. But after I
    installed the chain I couldn't figure out why it is not reuseable, as it so
    much resembles SRAM and other links.

    Is there any *trick* to resuing the Missing Link?

    Gary Jacobson
    Rosendale, NY

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  9. Kenny
    Archived post
    #29
    gary jacobson said:

    Good to learn that the Missing Link *is* reusable. The instructions in the
    10 speed KMC chain I just put on says that it is not reusable. But after I
    installed the chain I couldn't figure out why it is not reuseable, as it so
    much resembles SRAM and other links.

    Is there any *trick* to resuing the Missing Link?

    Gary Jacobson
    Rosendale, NY

    On the Missing Links that I've used they all had a small notch in the
    slot where you pull the chain tight to "snap" the chain together. I
    couldn't detach the chain at the MIssing Link by using my hands only
    because of the notch. I did detach it though by using a pair of needle
    nose pliers, but that was a pain. I would imagine if someone had the
    right tool you could grind that notch away and the link would be
    reusable.

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  10. Email address hidden
    Archived post
    #30
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    [email hidden] wrote:
    > On 25 May 2006 10:16:30 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> On 25 May 2006 03:36:48 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >
    > >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> On 24 May 2006 20:04:49 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:48:23 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:26:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:02:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 18:55:16 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >during installation
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Sammy,
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's advertised as removable.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is it now? Let's go to the source:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/hlq9d
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Click on "missing link"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >See: installation instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel knows more than KMC does
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >about their own product. And he's ready to prove it with a big dollop
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >of passive-aggressive "humor".
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Care to share, Fogel?
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >"Cheers"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> ><Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
    > >> >> >> >> >> >point or withdraw.
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
    > >> >> >> >> >with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
    > >> >> >> >> >as removable".
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >Prove your point or withdraw.
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Dear Carl,
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
    > >> >> >> >Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
    > >> >> >> >so. Please advise.
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Cheers!
    > >> >> >> >OZ
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Prove the relevance, please!
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
    > >> >> >no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >Dear Carl,
    > >> >
    > >> >Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
    > >> >anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
    > >> >post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.
    > >> >
    > >> >Cheers,
    > >> >Oz
    > >>
    > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source
    > >
    > >Dear Carl,
    > >
    > >Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.
    > >
    > >Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
    > >Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
    > >admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
    > >removable"?
    > >
    > >Sad.
    > >
    > >Cheers,
    > >Oz
    >
    > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about KMC
    Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will do
    anything to avoid admitting your error.

    Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)

    Cheers,
    Oz

    "Carl Fogel /wrong/? I'm shocked! Shocked!"

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    I see you have nothing to say regarding KMC Missing Links.

    I'll take this as your admission the you shot your cyber-mouth off
    without knowing your ass from your elbow.

    Just a typical Carl Fogel, eh?

    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/343025bd4efbfaa1?dmode=source

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  11. Ozark Bicycle
    Archived post
    #31
    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    Quoted message said:

    On 25 May 2006 14:01:58 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >
    >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> On 25 May 2006 10:16:30 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> On 25 May 2006 03:36:48 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >
    >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 20:04:49 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:48:23 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:26:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:02:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 18:55:16 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >during installation
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Sammy,
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's advertised as removable.
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is it now? Let's go to the source:
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/hlq9d
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Click on "missing link"
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >See: installation instructions.
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel knows more than KMC does
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >about their own product. And he's ready to prove it with a big dollop
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >of passive-aggressive "humor".
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Care to share, Fogel?
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"Cheers"
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ><Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc1826af36?dmode=source
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
    >> >> >> >> >> >> >point or withdraw.
    >> >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
    >> >> >> >> >> >with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
    >> >> >> >> >> >as removable".
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> >Prove your point or withdraw.
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >Dear Carl,
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
    >> >> >> >> >Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
    >> >> >> >> >so. Please advise.
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >Cheers!
    >> >> >> >> >OZ
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f536fde014?dmode=source
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >Prove the relevance, please!
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d6504c76c671378?dmode=source
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
    >> >> >> >no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/hread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Dear Carl,
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
    >> >> >anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
    >> >> >post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Cheers,
    >> >> >Oz
    >> >>
    >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c69a7b08?dmode=source
    >> >
    >> >Dear Carl,
    >> >
    >> >Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.
    >> >
    >> >Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
    >> >Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
    >> >admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
    >> >removable"?
    >> >
    >> >Sad.
    >> >
    >> >Cheers,
    >> >Oz
    >>
    >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d5e867eda2c87?dmode=source
    >
    >
    >Dear Carl,
    >
    >I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about KMC
    >Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will do
    >anything to avoid admitting your error.
    >
    >Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)
    >
    >Cheers,
    >Oz
    >
    >
    >
    >"Carl Fogel /wrong/? I'm shocked! Shocked!"

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d8bf6abf?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    I see you have nothing to say regarding KMC Missing Links.

    I'll take this as your admission the you shot your cyber-mouth off
    without knowing your ass from your elbow.

    Just a typical Carl Fogel, eh?

    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/Dear Carl,

    Still nothing regarding KMC Missing Links, eh?

    Do you know how pathetic you seem?

    Cheers,
    Oz

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  12. Email address hidden
    Archived post
    #32
    Ozark Bicycle said:
    Quoted message said:

    On 25 May 2006 14:54:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > On 25 May 2006 14:01:58 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> [email hidden] wrote:
    >>> On 25 May 2006 10:16:30 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    >>> <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>> [email hidden] wrote:
    >>>>> On 25 May 2006 03:36:48 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
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    >>>>>>> <[email hidden]> wrote:

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    >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 May 2006 19:26:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or permanent once set during installation

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sammy,

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's advertised as removable.

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it now? Let's go to the source:

    http://tinyurl.com/hlq9d

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Click on "missing link"

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See: installation instructions.

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows more than KMC does about their own
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product. And he's ready to prove it with a big
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollop of passive-aggressive "humor".

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Care to share, Fogel?

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cheers"

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc1826af36?dmode=source

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You clearly said: "It is advertised as
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> removable". Now, prove that point or withdraw.

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>>>>>>>> Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing
    >>>>>>>>>>>> whatever to do with the fiction you posted: that the
    >>>>>>>>>>>> KMC Missing Link is "advertised as removable".

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    >>>>>>>>>>>>Prove your point or withdraw.

    groups.google.com25c18d35d0ad754a

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    >>>>>>>>>> Dear Carl,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>>>>>> I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the
    >>>>>>>>>> KMC Missing Link is "advertised as removable". But, this
    >>>>>>>>>> link seems to fail to do so. Please advise.

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
    >>>>>>>>>> OZ

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f536fde014?dmode=source

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>>>> Prove the relevance, please!

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d6504c76c671378?dmode=source

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    >>>>>>>> This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>>>> I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this
    >>>>>>>> exchange, I had no idea of the dimensions.Sad.

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/hread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6

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    >>>>>> Dear Carl,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>> Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't
    >>>>>> find anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know
    >>>>>> you would never post an off topic link, so please point me
    >>>>>> to the relevant post.

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>>>> Cheers,
    >>>>>> Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c69a7b08?dmode=source

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>> Dear Carl,

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>> Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>> Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC
    >>>> Missing Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very
    >>>> hard time admitting you were just wrong when you said they
    >>>> were "advertised as removable"?

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>> Sad.

    Quoted message said:
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    >>>> Cheers,
    >>>> Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d5e867eda2c87?dmode=source

    Quoted message said:
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    >> Dear Carl,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    >> I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about
    >> KMC Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will
    >> do anything to avoid admitting your error.

    Quoted message said:
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    >> Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)

    Quoted message said:
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    >> Cheers,
    >> Oz

    Quoted message said:
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    >> "Carl Fogel /wrong/? I'm shocked! Shocked!"

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d8bf6abf?dmode=source

    Quoted message said:
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    Dear Carl,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    I see you have nothing to say regarding KMC Missing Links.

    Quoted message said:
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    I'll take this as your admission the you shot your cyber-mouth off
    without knowing your ass from your elbow.

    Quoted message said:
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    Just a typical Carl Fogel, eh?

    Quoted message said:
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    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/Dear Carl,

    Quoted message said:

    Still nothing regarding KMC Missing Links, eh?

    Quoted message said:

    Do you know how pathetic you seem?

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers,
    Oz

    That's and interesting pattern of citations if nothing else... and it
    is nothing else.

    Jobst Brandt

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  13. Matt O'Toole
    Archived post
    #33
    Sammy Shuford said:

    Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    during installation

    Nope, it's just like the SRAM/Craig ones. I use them with Shimano chains,
    which are often on sale (because everybody wants the SRAM ones that come
    with a master link).

    Matt O.

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  14. Matt O'Toole
    Archived post
    #34
    carlfogel said:

    On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    during installation

    Dear Sammy,

    It's advertised as removable.

    Some people disassemble removable links effortlessly. Others find them
    impossible.

    Poor technique, dirt, and excessive wear can sometimes make it easier
    to use a chain tool and another "removable" link.

    Or pliers.

    Matt O.

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  15. Matt O'Toole
    Archived post
    #35
    Werehatrack said:

    On the KMC Europe site, there are Missing Links listed whose packaging
    is clearly labelled "New" and "Reusable", so it is certainly true that
    KMC makes a reusable Missing Link, but I have not found that product
    line listed as available in the US with that labelling. From the KMC
    site in Taiwan, it appears that the designs of the connector links
    were revised fairly recently (the part numbers seem to have changed
    from what I recall) which may reflect that new tech. Unfortunately,
    it looks like the US distributor is sitting on a pile of the older
    Missing Links with the problematic nubs that frustrate attempts to
    remove the link.

    Guys, relax. I've been using them for years, probably with and
    without the nubs, and they work fine. If they're stiff, give 'em a shot
    of WD40, and use pliers to undo.

    Matt O.

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  16. Email address hidden
    Archived post
    #36

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    That's and interesting pattern of citations if nothing else... and it
    is nothing else.

    Quoted message said:

    Jobst Brandt

    [snip]

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    groups.google.com25c18d35d0ad754a
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/343025bd4efbfaa1?dmode=source

    Dear Jobst,

    The stuff above is just something persistent that clings to my shoe.
    There's an amazing amount of it, but eventually it will go away.

    You may have missed these two links, which address the KMC question:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source

    It's hard to see those two links when that other stuff keeps covering
    them.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

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  17. Greg Estep
    Archived post
    #37
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    Still nothing regarding KMC Missing Links, eh?

    Do you know how pathetic you seem?

    Looked in a mirror lately?

    --
    Greg Estep

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  18. Email address hidden
    Archived post
    #38
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:


    [email hidden] wrote:
    > On 25 May 2006 14:01:58 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> On 25 May 2006 10:16:30 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >
    > >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> On 25 May 2006 03:36:48 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >>
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 20:04:49 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:48:23 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:26:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 19:02:32 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 18:55:16 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >[email hidden] wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <[email hidden]>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >during installation
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Sammy,
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's advertised as removable.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Is it now? Let's go to the source:
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/hlq9d
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Click on "missing link"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >See: installation instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel knows more than KMC does
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >about their own product. And he's ready to prove it with a big dollop
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >of passive-aggressive "humor".
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Care to share, Fogel?
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"Cheers"
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ><Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc1826af36?dmode=source
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> >point or withdraw.
    > >> >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
    > >> >> >> >> >> >with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
    > >> >> >> >> >> >as removable".
    > >> >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >> >Prove your point or withdraw.
    > >> >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >Dear Carl,
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
    > >> >> >> >> >Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
    > >> >> >> >> >so. Please advise.
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> >Cheers!
    > >> >> >> >> >OZ
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f536fde014?dmode=source
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >Prove the relevance, please!
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d6504c76c671378?dmode=source
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
    > >> >> >> >no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/hread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Dear Carl,
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
    > >> >> >anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
    > >> >> >post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >Cheers,
    > >> >> >Oz
    > >> >>
    > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c69a7b08?dmode=source
    > >> >
    > >> >Dear Carl,
    > >> >
    > >> >Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.
    > >> >
    > >> >Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
    > >> >Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
    > >> >admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
    > >> >removable"?
    > >> >
    > >> >Sad.
    > >> >
    > >> >Cheers,
    > >> >Oz
    > >>
    > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d5e867eda2c87?dmode=source
    > >
    > >
    > >Dear Carl,
    > >
    > >I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about KMC
    > >Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will do
    > >anything to avoid admitting your error.
    > >
    > >Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)
    > >
    > >Cheers,
    > >Oz
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >"Carl Fogel /wrong/? I'm shocked! Shocked!"
    >
    > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d8bf6abf?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    I see you have nothing to say regarding KMC Missing Links.

    I'll take this as your admission the you shot your cyber-mouth off
    without knowing your ass from your elbow.

    Just a typical Carl Fogel, eh?

    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/Dear Carl,

    Still nothing regarding KMC Missing Links, eh?

    Do you know how pathetic you seem?

    Cheers,
    Oz

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/bf6b2099dac5a961?dmode=source

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  19. Werehatrack
    Archived post
    #39
    gary jacobson said:


    "Antti Salonen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I can spoil this by revealing that I have removed the Missing Link on my
    KMC X-10 dozens of times. No problems. I can't see how there even
    could be a problem, as the link is pretty much identical to the SRAM
    PowerLink. It doesn't know how many times it has been removed and
    reattached.

    -as

    Good to learn that the Missing Link *is* reusable. The instructions in the
    10 speed KMC chain I just put on says that it is not reusable. But after I
    installed the chain I couldn't figure out why it is not reuseable, as it so
    much resembles SRAM and other links.

    Is there any *trick* to resuing the Missing Link?

    I think the published non-reusability statement in the US market may
    be an artifact of one or both of two things.

    First, the older design of KMC Missing Links was clearly built to
    resist removal. This design misfeature was easily defeated, but that
    wasn't an officially acknowledged fact.

    Second, I suspect (but have no hard evidence to back up my suspicion)
    that KMC's US reps either want to prop up the sales of their
    inexpensive link, or they have advised against re-use for liability
    reduction reasons, possibly related to the fact that the early design
    made it harder to remove the link without bending the sideplates.

    That's just my observations and opinions.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

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  20. Ozark Bicycle
    Archived post
    #40
    Quoted message said:

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    That's and interesting pattern of citations if nothing else... and it
    is nothing else.

    Quoted message said:

    Jobst Brandt

    [snip]

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
    groups.google.com25c18d35d0ad754a
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf?dmode=source
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/343025bd4efbfaa1?dmode=source

    Dear Jobst,

    The stuff above is just something persistent that clings to my shoe.
    There's an amazing amount of it, but eventually it will go away.

    You may have missed these two links, which address the KMC question:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    The phrase you used was "advertised as reusable". Did KMC hire Yellow
    Jersey Advertising to do ads on Usenet?

    Please advise.

    Cheers,
    Oz

    Quoted message said:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source

    Dear Carl,

    This post was made *after* you posted that KMC Missing Links were
    "advertised as reusable". If you had this knowledge in hand when making
    your original post, it would have been the first thing you pulled out
    of you pedantic, passive aggressive holster after I challenged your
    assertion. You didn't, as the Google record reflects. You know it, I
    know it. You are fooling no one.

    Cheers,
    Oz

    Quoted message said:

    It's hard to see those two links when that other stuff keeps covering
    them.

    Dear Carl,

    Who's covering up?

    Cheers,
    Oz

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