I am a slightly overweight, 53 year old male. Up until I was in my
early twenties, I had trouble making it all around a 1/4 mile track. I
attribute this to 3 things -- my general lack of fitness, my weight,
and my poor instinctive coordination. I have been running on and off
for the last 20 something years, having slowly built myself up to about
5 miles. Although my instincts are poor, I have a very good head for
comprehending physical coordination intellectually. My question is
this: if you were to encounter a middle age adult who had never run in
his life, but had walked, so had some muscle development, what
instructions would you give him in order to run most efficiently, e.g.
lean forward, don't lean forward, push off your toes, don't push off
your toes, pull back from the hips, don't pull back from the hips, etc.
Thanks!
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"I have a very good head for comprehending physical coordination
intellectually."Uhh, ok.
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Richard said:
I am a slightly overweight, 53 year old male. Up until I was in my
early twenties, I had trouble making it all around a 1/4 mile track. I
attribute this to 3 things -- my general lack of fitness, my weight,
and my poor instinctive coordination. I have been running on and off
for the last 20 something years, having slowly built myself up to about
5 miles. Although my instincts are poor, I have a very good head for
comprehending physical coordination intellectually. My question is
this: if you were to encounter a middle age adult who had never run in
his life, but had walked, so had some muscle development, what
instructions would you give him in order to run most efficiently, e.g.
lean forward, don't lean forward, push off your toes, don't push off
your toes, pull back from the hips, don't pull back from the hips, etc.
Thanks!Sorry, you are much too fat to be worthy of our replys.
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Quoted message said:
Richard said:
I am a slightly overweight, 53 year old male. Up until I was in my
early twenties, I had trouble making it all around a 1/4 mile track. I
attribute this to 3 things -- my general lack of fitness, my weight,
and my poor instinctive coordination. I have been running on and off
for the last 20 something years, having slowly built myself up to about
5 miles. Although my instincts are poor, I have a very good head for
comprehending physical coordination intellectually. My question is
this: if you were to encounter a middle age adult who had never run in
his life, but had walked, so had some muscle development, what
instructions would you give him in order to run most efficiently, e.g.
lean forward, don't lean forward, push off your toes, don't push off
your toes, pull back from the hips, don't pull back from the hips, etc.
Thanks!Sorry, you are much too fat to be worthy of our replys.
the reply of someone who spells "replies", "replys" would not be of
much use, anyway. -
Richard said:
the reply of someone who spells "replies", "replys" would not be of
much use, anyway.You must be a spelll [censored]?
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Quoted message said:
Richard said:
the reply of someone who spells "replies", "replys" would not be of
much use, anyway.You must be a spelll [censored]?
"Spell [censored]"? No, actually. See, a [censored] is **female**, and I clearly
stated above that I am **male**. Do you comprehend now? Good boy.
Sheesh, what a group this appears to be. I certainly hope I encounter
some higher intellects than those that have replied so far. -
Richard said:
"Spell [censored]"? No, actually. See, a [censored] is **female**, and I clearly
stated above that I am **male**As usual, you are completely wrong. Trust me, you ARE a [censored]. Check
your rearend, and you'll find two holes.Quoted message said:
. Do you comprehend now? Good boy.
Do I get a Milk bone?
Quoted message said:
Sheesh, what a group this appears to be. I certainly hope I encounter
some higher intellects than those that have replied so far.We are far too smart to replY to an idiot like you. So [censored]!
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Richard said:
I am a slightly overweight, 53 year old male. Up until I was in my
early twenties, I had trouble making it all around a 1/4 mile track. I
attribute this to 3 things -- my general lack of fitness, my weight,
and my poor instinctive coordination. I have been running on and off
for the last 20 something years, having slowly built myself up to about
5 miles. Although my instincts are poor, I have a very good head for
comprehending physical coordination intellectually. My question is
this: if you were to encounter a middle age adult who had never run in
his life, but had walked, so had some muscle development, what
instructions would you give him in order to run most efficiently, e.g.
lean forward, don't lean forward, push off your toes, don't push off
your toes, pull back from the hips, don't pull back from the hips, etc.I wouldn't tell them anything of the sort. I'd tell him to just go out there,
run and enjoy himself. The best thing for efficiency is frequent practice.Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ -
Hay!
In army 1990
at Fort Bennings
there was this 19 year old from back back hills of Tennessee. Now most
hip.ate bear and mule most his life, never seen a store till he was
nineteen.
Way out of shape...3 push-ups, run a 1/4 mile ad top dead. Claw Claw
Claw.
The drills gave him too me.
after the hand shake and hell how you do.
first thing first. if were going to do this? were going to do it right.
all the way, no holding back.
O.K. he said all the way, no holding back.
309:>😉? 308:>😉 running partners thru training........
Dude Kick ass............
He didn't evan do the Fat farm
at the end we tear off the old army gear off our body and we not evan
trying it just fell off......butt we went all the way......
and won......308/309 won..c.o said so.....
all the way................
No Why..
308 We do it right.....just all the way...........
other then the [censored] runs some of us did. the c.o. said he was really
surprise and pride at our running feat 308 and 309..both of us.......
too this day I had the best buddies ever....a guy or 34 year old could
have......
we kick every body ass........
the [censored] part....
this 2 time thru marines and army dude started it.......1 thru got
caught..marines turn army thru.. con us all........drill had a hard time
with this. N.Y. and Hawaii dudes...... saw them on t.v. in irac.......2
cons....personnel note.
today got gas money for grass cutting now.....10¢ cans in back pack
along country roads.....
I fixes the no 10¢ can probe. instead of following the fagget labor
construction worker driving paths. Like I should........I I took the gay
office workers trail.....back pack full. looking for 308..........
don't fret on thre hills....glad you home....it is monday..nothing butt lite beer cans and ......ha ha ha......
when you think the state pick up all the cans..follow the gay
construction workers.....ha ha ha.....60 miles north of detroit.
man.......you fretting again......
remember when the way tarzan said on a 1000 mile journey if you met up
with your enemy what would your wish be......?and tarzan said that the 1000 mile was his...............
you no how that is right.....
Quit fretting ND dO IT..........jST dO IT.......42°N,83°W 90°N,180° 90°lat,
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Quoted message said:
Richard said:
"Spell [censored]"? No, actually. See, a [censored] is **female**, and I clearly
stated above that I am **male**As usual, you are completely wrong.
As usual?? We have only just met. If you think I am wrong about having
stated that I am male, you may have a reading comprehension problem. A
skilled professional may be able to helpQuoted message said:
Trust me, you ARE a [censored]. Check
your rearend, and you'll find two holes.Yawn. Another vulgar usenet lowlife who gets his rocks off saying
things on usenet that he doesn't have the courage to in real life.Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
. Do you comprehend now? Good boy.
Do I get a Milk bone?
If that's what you want, I imagine even a burger flipper like you can
afford them.Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Sheesh, what a group this appears to be. I certainly hope I encounter
some higher intellects than those that have replied so far.We are far too smart to replY to an idiot like you. So [censored]!
Your post indicates anything but smarts. And, precisely who is "we"? Do
you think everyone in this group is a vulgar usenet lowlife like you?You seem to have a lot of animosity. They say that going for a run is
good for that. GIve it a try. -
Donovan Rebbechi said:
Richard said:
I am a slightly overweight, 53 year old male. Up until I was in my
early twenties, I had trouble making it all around a 1/4 mile track. I
attribute this to 3 things -- my general lack of fitness, my weight,
and my poor instinctive coordination. I have been running on and off
for the last 20 something years, having slowly built myself up to about
5 miles. Although my instincts are poor, I have a very good head for
comprehending physical coordination intellectually. My question is
this: if you were to encounter a middle age adult who had never run in
his life, but had walked, so had some muscle development, what
instructions would you give him in order to run most efficiently, e.g.
lean forward, don't lean forward, push off your toes, don't push off
your toes, pull back from the hips, don't pull back from the hips, etc.I wouldn't tell them anything of the sort. I'd tell him to just go out there,
run and enjoy himself. The best thing for efficiency is frequent practice.Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/Thank you for the reasonable reply. I was beginning to think I had
entered the twilight zone of usenet. -
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:13:25 -0400, [email hidden] (Beach
Bounty) said:
at the end we tear off the old army gear off our body and we not evan
trying it just fell off......butt we went all the way......[censored].
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Richard said:
Thank you for the reasonable reply. I was beginning to think I had
entered the twilight zone of usenet.You just replied to this groups biggest troll.
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Quoted message said:
Richard said:
Thank you for the reasonable reply. I was beginning to think I had
entered the twilight zone of usenet.You just replied to this groups biggest troll.
Read his reply, then read the other replies to my question. See what
you think. -
Richard said:
Read his reply, then read the other replies to my question. See what
you think.I think you are completly insane.
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Quoted message said:
Richard said:
Read his reply, then read the other replies to my question. See what
you think.I think you are completly insane.
You are entitled to your opinion. Thanks for sharing.
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Richard said:
... My question is
this: if you were to encounter a middle age adult who had never run in
his life, but had walked, so had some muscle development, what
instructions would you give him in order to run most efficiently,Read: "Mindful Running" http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.html
Read: "Chi Running" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/074325144X
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Steve Hansen said:
Richard said:
... My question is
this: if you were to encounter a middle age adult who had never run in
his life, but had walked, so had some muscle development, what
instructions would you give him in order to run most efficiently,Read: "Mindful Running" http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.html
Read: "Chi Running" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/074325144X
Thank you for your reply. I have read 1/2 of Chi Running. I found it
had some good things, but also some obvious errors. For example, he
misdefines foot pronation. He says "lift your feet", but doesn't
specify *how* (e.g. one can flex the knee, the hip, or even extend the
hip), he is ambiguous in his pace recommendation, etc. He claims the
calf muscle is completely uninvolved in running, an obvious error. I
don't really have a problem with his idea of thinking from the center,
but it can be just as beneficial to think about what is happening at
the ankle. I think he thinks he has a panacea, and I think that
thinking is almost always dangerous. I will look at mindful running
now. :Thanks again. -
Steve Hansen said:
Richard said:
... My question is
this: if you were to encounter a middle age adult who had never run in
his life, but had walked, so had some muscle development, what
instructions would you give him in order to run most efficiently,Read: "Mindful Running" http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.html
A fascinating site. Thanks again. I have not gotten halfway through the
site, and have already found 2 apparent disagreements with Chi Running." 7. At uniform top speed with zero acceleration, if the athlete was
running in a vacuum with no wind resistance, there would be no
body lean at all."Of course body lean is a primary concept of chi running.
And
"In race walking, the emphasis of the arm is not on the back swing,
(partly because a back swing is going in the opposite direction you are
moving. Rather the focus is the forward thrust of the arm to assist in
moving in the forward direction faster."Now, I don't know if one can infer that he believes this is true of
running as well, but if he does, this contradicts chi running, where
the emphasis is on the backward thrust of the arms.More when I finish. Thanks for a great site.
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Read: "Chi Running" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/074325144X -
Richard said:
Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply. Let me try to tell you where
I'm coming from. I am a pianist.Leave your sex life out of this discussion please. Pianist, or
vaginalist, it's not relative.
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