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  1. I started Atkins at about 205 lbs (but was as high as 215 lbs or so at
    my highest pre-Atkins point). Last September I got down to 127 lbs, and
    my goal was 125 lbs. I arbitrarily chose 125 lbs because that was smack
    in the middle of the weight/height chart for me, and I remember feeling
    thin at that weight before (in my 20s and early 30s -- I'm 50 now). As
    many of you know, I've been feeling ambivalent about my weight loss
    after a certain point because I became so saggy. I panicked somewhat
    because of it , so I deliberately ate more to put some weight back on to
    see if it would help. I kept the carbs pretty much the same (most of the
    time), but increased the calories. I edged up to the mid-130 lbs, but
    the sagginess didn't improve -- in fact, it seemed to get worse as my
    body settled (literally) into it. In the meantime, I kept eating AFTER
    going to bed (that's always been a problem for me, but I seemed to have
    less control over it in the last 2-3 months). In the last month, I
    edged up further and am now at 140 lbs. Part of that may be due to my
    ever fluctuating hormones and some recent Chinese food, but since it's
    been that way for several days now AND I've plumped out some, I have to
    claim it.

    I often do what I think of as a "grope check" while I'm in bed, just
    sort of feeling myself up all over to gauge my size. I was doing this a
    couple of nights ago when I suddenly realized that I was thinking "Oh,
    THAT'S better" in regard to the plumped out parts! I did a double-take.
    WHAT? I jumped out of bed and rushed to look at myself in the bathroom
    mirror with the bright floodlights on -- sure enough, the wattle where
    my head and neck meet is NOTICEABLY better. My arms are better, too --
    my skin had been so saggy on my arms that I felt like they belonged on
    someone 20 years older than me! I could easily (and often idlly DID)
    pinch a bit of skin and have a good portion of it pull away and become
    flat between my fingers. Just tilting my arm caused the skin to crinkle
    and sag off the side and I HATED it! Now it doesn't do that and I can't
    pinch it flat like I did. My thighs are plumper than I'd like (but
    that's ALWAYS been the case, no matter WHAT my weight was), but at least
    I'm not feeling the underlying bones like I did at the lower weight and
    they aren't sagging NEARLY as much. It's weird how the body can change,
    and even though you see and feel it every day, you don't necessarily
    perceive the changes until it suddenly "clicks" into place in a blinding
    moment. A few days earlier, my Mom had told me that she thought I
    looked MUCH better at this weight, but she's my MOM and, like most moms,
    thinks her baby is beautiful ALL the time :-), so I took it with a grain
    of salt and didn't really look that hard.

    I had been depressed that going back up to about 135 lbs didn't seem to
    make any difference in the sagginess and had decided I might as well try
    to get back down into the 120s again since I was going to be
    wrinkly/saggy, regardless. I'd lost a lot of weight-loss enthusiasm
    (notice I said WEIGHT LOSS enthusiasm, not LOW CARB enthusiasm),
    however, since it was now something I was almost grudglingly doing, so I
    didn't push it. Now I think it's a good thing I DIDN'T push it --
    apparently I just had to go a little higher. I feel like my body is on
    a kind of balance beam now where I am slowly rocking from one side to
    the other as I settle into the JUST RIGHT spot. Now I'm going to
    concentrate on staying between 135-140 lbs (I DON'T want to gain any
    more) and see how that shakes out. If I lose a couple of lbs and see a
    definite increase in the sagging again, I'll go back up. OTOH, my
    lifelong sensibilities also balk at being out of the 130s, so maybe I'll
    drop down to 139 just for my ego :-)

    This is a whole new ballgame for me to be happy that my weight is HIGHER
    than I've EVER considered to be good/desirable for me! It's a little
    disconcerting, but there's no denying that I feel MUCH better about
    looking a little less elderly, even at a cost of weighing a little more
    than my ego would like. I don't want to look like a plump grape, but I
    REALLY don't want to look like a shriveld raisin! OTOH, I don't want
    to put any more strain than necessary on my feet and back, so it's a
    fine line I'll be treading. NOW, however, I feel like I can go out and
    buy some new jeans and bras because this 5 lb range IS where I want to
    be and will now strive to be. This IS my goal. This is the first time
    since I started low-carbing that I've felt like I'm THERE and can NOW
    begin post-weight-loss phase of my life.

    All my life I've tried to get down to at least 125 lbs (115 lbs being
    the ideal in my own mind, that being my "perfect" teenage weight).
    Those last 5 added lbs were unintentional (and a reminder of how VERY
    easy it is to regain), but what an epiphany to discover that I ***LIKE**
    my body at 140 lbs!!! There are some PARTS I'm not too happy with, but
    can EASILY make peace with. This is such an enlightening experience
    (and struggle) to have gone though with such different weights and
    dealing with my own body image and perceptions at different times. It
    feels a little odd to WANT to be 140 lbs when I KNOW I can go lower, but
    at this point in my life, it FITS me and feels RIGHT.

    I'm changing the goal in my sig from "125" to 135-140 (aka "just right"😉
    and am now declaring that I've reached it, at least as far as my weight
    goes. Continuing to low-carb and to make a stronger effort toward more
    exercising will be a lifetime plan.

    HALLELUJAH!!! Thank you, (almost) everyone, for being here for me on
    this incredible journey! I truly do not think I would have been NEARLY
    as successful without all the inspiration, encouragement and support
    that I've received here! I intend to STAY here, too!

    --
    Saffire
    205/140/135-140 (aka JUST RIGHT!)
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

    *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance
    in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. ***

  2. "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This IS my goal. This is the first time
    since I started low-carbing that I've felt like I'm THERE and can NOW
    begin post-weight-loss phase of my life.

    Good for you, Saffire - happy is the person who knows when to maintain : )

    Nicky.

    --
    A1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
    1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
    95/74/72Kg

  3. that is very interesting!!! It's hard not to get hung up on numbers so
    I understand. Here is the question, you look firmer at a higher weight
    but did you go up a pant size?? It's funny I weight now 127 and my
    husband says stop, you need to GAIN 5 to 10 lbs, I thought you looked
    better a little more weight. Now I will say I am not a thin flabby.
    So with time you are saying and more weight you are not saggy
    anymore? Great, how about weight lifting did that help or did you doit
    with just the weight gain? If your happy, I am happy!!

  4. Congrats!

    You really worked for it and deserve it utterly.

    New pics?

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    that is very interesting!!! It's hard not to get hung up on numbers so
    I understand. Here is the question, you look firmer at a higher weight
    but did you go up a pant size??

    I don't really know -- I assume so. I only bought one NEW pair of pants
    when I was about the same size on my way down) because I was taking in
    my old ones and unearthing some older jeans from the closet (with the
    older sizing -- sizes run bigger these days, so what was a size 14 ten
    or fifteen years ago is more of a size 10 now.

    Quoted message said:

    It's funny I weight now 127 and my
    husband says stop, you need to GAIN 5 to 10 lbs, I thought you looked
    better a little more weight. Now I will say I am not a thin flabby.
    So with time you are saying and more weight you are not saggy
    anymore?

    Well, not as MUCH :-) It's interesting what your husband said because,
    as you may recall, I had this ephiphany via my "grope test". I DO feel
    better to the HANDS ;-) Having gotten down to where I could be
    considered gaunt not because of the lbs on the scale, but because of the
    way the flesh no longer fit me, I realized that I didn't feel very
    feminine like that -- NOW I feel more "womanly", and I think I have an
    inkling as to what men MEAN when they tell you that they LIKE the way
    your body feels to them at a slightly higher weight and they really
    DON'T want you to be super skinny. That's a generalization, of course,
    but in years past I may or may not have truly believed it; I was too
    focused on my OWN perception of it. NOW my gut response is that my body
    feels more pleasing to the touch than it did at a lower weight. Since
    no one ELSE is touching it, though, I'll have to take my own word for it
    ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    Great, how about weight lifting did that help or did you doit
    with just the weight gain?

    Mostly just the weight gain. Exercising is tricky for me because I get
    sick easily if I overdo it, so it's easy to get out of the habit. I
    keep taking stabs at it though. I have a Body-By-Jake Total Body
    Trainer (with heavy-duty resistance bands), and Ab-Doer and a Bun &
    Thigh Max that I use. I had to get rid of my exercise bike when I
    moved. I think now that I'm not feeling so ambivalent about things I'll
    probably make more of an effort to exercise more regularly, as long as
    I'm careful not to overdo it.

    Quoted message said:

    If your happy, I am happy!!

    I AM happy about it in a way that I COULDN'T have been had I not gone to
    a lower weight FIRST and then regained some. Now I know with a
    CERTAINTY that I cannot go that low and be as happy with the results.

    --
    Saffire
    205/140/135-140 (aka JUST RIGHT!)
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

    *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance
    in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. ***

  6. you know the exercise factor would make you the perfect women!! Just
    add some weight lifting, and you will be so thrilled, it was the final
    hurdle for me, and I can get obsessive so I just go 3-4 times a week
    and not too crazy. Just a little really does goes a long way as to
    getting skin back in place.

  7. On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 01:44:34 -0700, Saffire
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    =>I started Atkins at about 205 lbs (but was as high as 215 lbs or so at
    =>my highest pre-Atkins point). Last September I got down to 127 lbs, and

    --snip snip--

    In my not so scientific theory(or opinion), low carb and not low cal make your
    body lean and weight somewhat heavier.

    ---
    The more we know, the less we know.
    Low carb cures hungry but stop not craving.
    k 1 6 8 9 a t h o t m a i l d o t c o m

  8. "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    In my not so scientific theory(or opinion), low carb and not low cal make
    your
    body lean and weight somewhat heavier.

    Your theory might have some validity, except she doesn't exercise. Which is
    probably the reason she goes all pruny when she tries to get down to a
    decent weight.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    you know the exercise factor would make you the perfect women!!

    Better, maybe, but nowhere NEAR perfect :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Just
    add some weight lifting, and you will be so thrilled, it was the final
    hurdle for me, and I can get obsessive so I just go 3-4 times a week
    and not too crazy. Just a little really does goes a long way as to
    getting skin back in place.

    I'll do what I can with the equipment I have. I have wrist AND foot
    problems, though, so traditional weight lifting is out.

    --
    Saffire
    205/140/135-140 (aka JUST RIGHT!)
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

    *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance
    in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. ***

  10. "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I started Atkins at about 205 lbs (but was as high as 215 lbs or so at
    my highest pre-Atkins point). Last September I got down to 127 lbs, and
    my goal was 125 lbs. I arbitrarily chose 125 lbs because that was smack
    in the middle of the weight/height chart for me, and I remember feeling
    thin at that weight before (in my 20s and early 30s -- I'm 50 now). As
    many of you know, I've been feeling ambivalent about my weight loss
    after a certain point because I became so saggy. I panicked somewhat
    because of it , so I deliberately ate more to put some weight back on to
    see if it would help. I kept the carbs pretty much the same (most of the
    time), but increased the calories. I edged up to the mid-130 lbs, but
    the sagginess didn't improve -- in fact, it seemed to get worse as my
    body settled (literally) into it. In the meantime, I kept eating AFTER
    going to bed (that's always been a problem for me, but I seemed to have
    less control over it in the last 2-3 months). In the last month, I
    edged up further and am now at 140 lbs. Part of that may be due to my
    ever fluctuating hormones and some recent Chinese food, but since it's
    been that way for several days now AND I've plumped out some, I have to
    claim it.

    I often do what I think of as a "grope check" while I'm in bed, just
    sort of feeling myself up all over to gauge my size. I was doing this a
    couple of nights ago when I suddenly realized that I was thinking "Oh,
    THAT'S better" in regard to the plumped out parts! I did a double-take.
    WHAT? I jumped out of bed and rushed to look at myself in the bathroom
    mirror with the bright floodlights on -- sure enough, the wattle where
    my head and neck meet is NOTICEABLY better. My arms are better, too --
    my skin had been so saggy on my arms that I felt like they belonged on
    someone 20 years older than me! I could easily (and often idlly DID)
    pinch a bit of skin and have a good portion of it pull away and become
    flat between my fingers. Just tilting my arm caused the skin to crinkle
    and sag off the side and I HATED it! Now it doesn't do that and I can't
    pinch it flat like I did. My thighs are plumper than I'd like (but
    that's ALWAYS been the case, no matter WHAT my weight was), but at least
    I'm not feeling the underlying bones like I did at the lower weight and
    they aren't sagging NEARLY as much. It's weird how the body can change,
    and even though you see and feel it every day, you don't necessarily
    perceive the changes until it suddenly "clicks" into place in a blinding
    moment. A few days earlier, my Mom had told me that she thought I
    looked MUCH better at this weight, but she's my MOM and, like most moms,
    thinks her baby is beautiful ALL the time :-), so I took it with a grain
    of salt and didn't really look that hard.

    I had been depressed that going back up to about 135 lbs didn't seem to
    make any difference in the sagginess and had decided I might as well try
    to get back down into the 120s again since I was going to be
    wrinkly/saggy, regardless. I'd lost a lot of weight-loss enthusiasm
    (notice I said WEIGHT LOSS enthusiasm, not LOW CARB enthusiasm),
    however, since it was now something I was almost grudglingly doing, so I
    didn't push it. Now I think it's a good thing I DIDN'T push it --
    apparently I just had to go a little higher. I feel like my body is on
    a kind of balance beam now where I am slowly rocking from one side to
    the other as I settle into the JUST RIGHT spot. Now I'm going to
    concentrate on staying between 135-140 lbs (I DON'T want to gain any
    more) and see how that shakes out. If I lose a couple of lbs and see a
    definite increase in the sagging again, I'll go back up. OTOH, my
    lifelong sensibilities also balk at being out of the 130s, so maybe I'll
    drop down to 139 just for my ego :-)

    This is a whole new ballgame for me to be happy that my weight is HIGHER
    than I've EVER considered to be good/desirable for me! It's a little
    disconcerting, but there's no denying that I feel MUCH better about
    looking a little less elderly, even at a cost of weighing a little more
    than my ego would like. I don't want to look like a plump grape, but I
    REALLY don't want to look like a shriveld raisin! OTOH, I don't want
    to put any more strain than necessary on my feet and back, so it's a
    fine line I'll be treading. NOW, however, I feel like I can go out and
    buy some new jeans and bras because this 5 lb range IS where I want to
    be and will now strive to be. This IS my goal. This is the first time
    since I started low-carbing that I've felt like I'm THERE and can NOW
    begin post-weight-loss phase of my life.

    All my life I've tried to get down to at least 125 lbs (115 lbs being
    the ideal in my own mind, that being my "perfect" teenage weight).
    Those last 5 added lbs were unintentional (and a reminder of how VERY
    easy it is to regain), but what an epiphany to discover that I ***LIKE**
    my body at 140 lbs!!! There are some PARTS I'm not too happy with, but
    can EASILY make peace with. This is such an enlightening experience
    (and struggle) to have gone though with such different weights and
    dealing with my own body image and perceptions at different times. It
    feels a little odd to WANT to be 140 lbs when I KNOW I can go lower, but
    at this point in my life, it FITS me and feels RIGHT.

    I'm changing the goal in my sig from "125" to 135-140 (aka "just right"😉
    and am now declaring that I've reached it, at least as far as my weight
    goes. Continuing to low-carb and to make a stronger effort toward more
    exercising will be a lifetime plan.

    HALLELUJAH!!! Thank you, (almost) everyone, for being here for me on
    this incredible journey! I truly do not think I would have been NEARLY
    as successful without all the inspiration, encouragement and support
    that I've received here! I intend to STAY here, too!

    --
    Saffire
    205/140/135-140 (aka JUST RIGHT!)
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333


    Wonderful news, Saffire🙂

    You know your body better than anyone else. When are you going to update
    your photos? Smile🙂

    Btw.. my surgery went great and I am healing well. I joined a gym 3 days ago
    and can't wait to start working out again. My husband has some work-out
    routines he wants me to try. I get so mad because he is a heavy lifter and
    always wants me to increase the weight. I like doing low weight with lots of
    reps. I like a toned look---not the bulky look. Of course, with him being a
    body builder I can see why he sees things differently than I do. I have a
    little pooch in my lower abdomen. I *really* need to work on that. Did you
    notice your upper arms started to sag after losing weight? I watched Dr
    90210 last night and it showed a lady who only lost 50lbs---she had *a lot*
    of excess skin on her upper arms. It really surprised me. She also worked
    out a lot.

    Hugs,
    Jolinda

  11. In article <[email hidden]>, Jolinda
    ([email hidden]) says...

    Quoted message said:

    You know your body better than anyone else. When are you going to update
    your photos? Smile🙂

    Eventually :-) I'm at nearly the same weight I was in the most recent
    progress photo, so I probably look about the same :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Btw.. my surgery went great and I am healing well.

    Glad to hear it!

    Quoted message said:

    Did you
    notice your upper arms started to sag after losing weight? I watched Dr
    90210 last night and it showed a lady who only lost 50lbs---she had *a lot*
    of excess skin on her upper arms. It really surprised me. She also worked
    out a lot.

    Yes, quite a bit. It's not an attractive look.

    --
    Saffire
    205/138/135-140 (aka JUST RIGHT!)
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

    *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance
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  12. so whats the anwer? I can't see running for sugery?

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] ([email hidden]) says...

    Quoted message said:

    so whats the anwer? I can't see running for sugery?

    What's the question?

    --
    Saffire
    205/138/135-140 (aka JUST RIGHT!)
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

    *** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance
    in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. ***

  14. the upper arms sag opst

  15. the upper arms sag post

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] ([email hidden]) says...

    Quoted message said:

    the upper arms sag opst

    Okay, this is getting ridiculous. You HAVE to start quoting the posts
    to which you are responding because a) we have no idea to WHOM you are
    responding, and b) without any context, something like the above makes
    no sense whatsoever. Presumably it's an answer to a question, but what
    was the question? Who asked it? When did they ask it? Usenet is not a
    realtime chatroom. People come and go at different times and read posts
    in different orders with different newsreaders. The order of messages
    depends on the person's newsfeed. I might see posts that you haven't
    seen yet, and vice-versa. Most people do NOT use a web-based newsreader
    such as Google, so once they read a message, it's marked as read and no
    longer shows up.

    I found the following in the Help section of Google Groups:

    *****
    How can I automatically quote the previous message when I post a reply?

    To quote the previous message in your reply, click the "show options"
    link then the blue "Reply" link at the top of the post. The full text of
    the previous message is included in the composition box and marked with
    angle brackets (>😉 at the start of each line. You can place your
    comments between lines of the quote or simply add your thoughts at the
    bottom.
    *****

    I don't know why they don't offer a custom setting to automatically do
    this, but they don't, so it's something you would have to do each time.
    Yes, it's an extra step, but it really IS necessary if you want to have
    coherent conversations with people on USENET. Without quoting for
    context, some posts just look like someone walking into a crowded room
    and randomly saying disjointed phrases to no one in particular and for
    no apparent reason.

    --
    Saffire
    205/138/135-140 (aka JUST RIGHT!)
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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