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  1. I want to know the diference in an ISIS hub, like the ones that come on
    the koxx unis, and how they compare to the KH splined hub, or any other
    hub.

    Just some basic info, like which one is stronger, why is the isis hub
    stronger or is the KH stronger? any difference on how they mad, just
    stuff like that =p

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  2. 'HERE' (http://unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38277)

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  3. Ive seen that before, but it doesnt give that good of info on ISIS
    splined hubs, it helps with everything else, but im kinda just
    wondering what makes ISIS so special =p

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  4. ISIS is a standardized crank interface. it's very useful on bikes where
    tons of companies have their own interfaces. ISIS cranks can be swapped
    with other ISIS cranks, profile's for example can only be replaced with
    profiles. that's the cool thing about ISIS. other than that it's a
    fairly strong interface on par with KH and profile. basically a well
    made splined system will be super strong and very hard to break
    regardless of exact design.

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  5. kool =p i noticed they had a much larger selection of crank sizes, and
    ive seen yoggi do insane drops and his stuff hold out fine, but i never
    see ppl do anything that big with profiles or KH's.

    Now im probably gonna get a KOXX for a new uni unsted of buying a
    profile wheelset, or i still might get a KH, still not decided =p

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  6. You have never seen anyone go big with profiles or kh's. Pfffft. Seen
    defect, any good quality riding videos on here. Im sure you have you
    just dont know.

    Mike

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  7. You are right Koxx crank sets take big drops. So do the KH ones. Check
    this photo.

    http://tinyurl.com/k27fc

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  8. Ive seen Kh going big, but not as big as what ive seen done on KOXX,
    like the photo of yoggi doing that insane drop shown on his profile on
    koxx one.

    But seriously, what makes the isis hubs different then ones made by
    torker, qu-ax (i heard they were switching to a isis), and KH. like,
    what do they do different to them to make them stand out?

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  9. re-read my post. KH is 36 spline, profile is 48 spline and ISIS is 10,
    12? something like that. splines are the little slots or ridges where
    the hub and cranks meet. more doesn't necessarily mean better. these
    companies set their stuff apart from qu-ax and torker by being stronger
    and lighter.

    //edit: what makes them stand out (as i said before) is that you can
    you more than just the koxx cranks. you can use any ISIS cranks you
    want. this is a huge plus, expecially for muni.

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  10. i know that, and i know about the fact on how more splines doesnt mean
    its gonna be the strongest, i know that more splines doesnt mean its
    stronger, and different materials can make it lighter and stronger.

    I having a hard time trying to put what i want here lol, probably from
    lack of sleep, i shouldnt of stayed up all last night =(

    So for ISIS, they are around 10, or 12 splined, KH is 36, Profile are
    48, but even though isis has less splines is it the material the use
    that makes it so strong, or the design or the way the make the ridges?

    And the added crank options are a big plus =p

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  11. I found a really nice explenation on ISIS hubs, went through tons of
    search result, but i finally found what i needed, so now im going to
    bed, =p

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  12. Could you post what you found? im interested aswell...

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  13. Jerrick said:

    Ive seen Kh going big, but not as big as what ive seen done on KOXX,
    like the photo of yoggi doing that insane drop shown on his profile on
    koxx one.

    I will give that link again.... I was very specific on the photo. I
    gave in that link again.

    http://tinyurl.com/k27fc

    Roger

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  14. im pretty sure yoggi had profiles on in that photo... and his entire
    wheelset got totalled.

    yoggi does break KOXX ISIS cranks too... nothing can withstand things
    like 14ft drops to flat for very long.

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  15. KH 2005 crank and hubset.

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  16. I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure that Yoggi rode a wheelset with
    Onza hub/cranks during the last Unicon (when the picture was taken).

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  17. oops, I think you are right. It must have been the Onza ones because I
    have a feeling that the KH hub was not out then. There is a picture of
    the trashed wheel somewhere up, but I could not find it, that would
    confirm it.

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  18. And the drop was in a tire, I think you cant compare a drop in a
    bouncing tire with a drop on normal ground.

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  19. The ISIS crank availability "advantage", unfortunately, is a deceptive
    one, since the range of ISIS-compatible cranks out there is largely
    limited to 170-175mm lengths. If the rider does not need those
    lengths, the (current) ISIS crank availability situation is not much of
    a driving consideration.

    For the ISIS, KH, and Profile hubs, the question is, what crank lengths
    does the hub manufacturer supply that are compatible with its hub? A
    refinement of this question also asks, for which applications?

    This is not the place for a full discussion of this topic; the main
    thing is for the consumer to think of his/her specific application
    (i.e., "I'm a small guy doing trials but prefer low cadences", or "I'm
    a tall woman doing extreme off-road and can spin like heck"😉, and
    consider the range of cranks that are suitable for that application
    from each hub supplier. This range, for the KH and Koxx, is 4-5 lengths
    that span a reasonable portion of the unicycling market's needs. For
    the Profile, this is 10 lengths that cover the longer range more
    thoroughly, and is limited in the shorter range to 145mm. If you are
    primarily a MUni rider, then being able to purchase a 125mm crankset is
    irrelevant to you, and you might appreciate the refinement that is
    available from the Profile line. For instance, some riders use 165 or
    160mm cranks on their 24" MUnis. If you are doing mod trials and are a
    small person, then you might want to use 125mm cranks on your trials
    setup, and choose the KH or Koxx instead. Finally, the same rider
    might want to swap cranks for different purposes. Participating in a
    24 hour race might prompt a rider to swap in shorter cranks for more
    speed.

    However, if the ISIS 170-175mm predominance fits the rider's needs,
    then he/she has a HUGE selection, and this is a great advantage. A
    small caveat is that (again) most ISIS cranks are designed for road
    bicycle use. However, there are exceptions, such as the Bonz trials
    cranks, which come in 160 and 170mm.

    I've also been glad to see and test some trials-quality square taper
    cranks, such as the Profile trials 158mm, and the Middleburn 165-180mm
    trials cranks. These cranks work very well on the 36" unis that
    'LiveWire' (http://www.livewireunicycles.com) supplies to customers,
    and are integral to the Outta Phaze unicycle. The Middleburn crankset
    is the practical successor to the Kooka crankset that was so popular.
    They are also available with the ISIS interface. Please 'contact us'
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    fine cranks.

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  20. im getting my koxx isis hub and cranks for $170 CAD ...is that a good
    price?

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