Blacks & swimming

"Alton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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There have been blacks swimming for years and some who are very good, but very few who have gotten
to world class status. In a sport where 100ths of a second count, it's a matter of physics. On
land, everyone's about equal and your particular muscular/skeletal/neurological system makes the
difference. However, in the water the rules change. Those with denser muscle/bone structure aren't
going to be as buoyant, and they'll be fighting against this no matter how much they train or how
talented they are. Notice that the few medalists there have been, are in short distance events.
And notice also that many of those swimmers status as "black" is dubious. Of the ones I've been
able to locate photos of, such as Anthony Ervin, Alison Terry, Sabir Muhammad, none of them are
clearly "Negroid".

It's true that there are few to none black swimming champions. It's just as true that West Africans
(in origin) dominate sprinting and heavyweight boxing, and that Arabs and East Africans dominate in
distance events.

That shows only that different physiologies are optimised for different tasks. It doesn't stop black
people swimming any more than it stops white people playing basketball - it just means that they're
unlikely to get into the top one percent.

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"Michael" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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One might note that if you're gonna troll it's best to do it intelligently. The 15m rule came,
for backstroke, as a few (swimmers) followed David Berkoff's lead, and in the fly & free after
watching Dennis Pankratov destroy record after record. One might note that this population, as
swimming in general tends to be for IMHO mostly socioeconomic factors, mostly 'white'.

You mean like in the Carribean etc.? I know, it's all those brutal winters and lack of pools down
there that keep them out of the water. If Jamaica could field a world-class *bobsled* team of all
things, surely they could produce some swimmers.

Where the per capita income wouldn't support a family of four in America for a week?

Yea. Those countries. Who has time to swim when that time is needed to feed your kids.

Tao te Carl

"Alton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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100ths of a second count, it's a matter of physics. On land, everyone's about equal and your
particular muscular/skeletal/neurological system makes the difference.

Ummm... when was the last time a white guy won the gold medal for the high jump or the 100m dash?

On 26 Feb 2003, yet another 2-Digit IQ racist Alton,[email hidden] was thinking out loud in the
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However, in the water the rules change. Those with denser muscle/bone structure aren't going to be
as buoyant, and they'll be fighting against this no matter how much they train or how talented
they are.

It was thought that blacks couldn't play golf and or tennis because of all reasons.....these were
"white" sports. You're living in an age where the dinosaurs ruled the land; I think it's about time
you got back to the present day.

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Please don't feed the troll in rss. Thank you.

Tao te Carl

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"Alton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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100ths of a second count, it's a matter of physics. On land, everyone's about equal and your
particular muscular/skeletal/neurological system makes the difference.

Ummm... when was the last time a white guy won the gold medal for the high jump or the 100m dash?

Someone actually watches that boring [censored]. I thought it went away decades ago.

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Please don't feed the troll in rss. Thank you.

Tao te Carl

But it's so much fun.

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Please don't feed the troll in rss. Thank you.

Tao te Carl

But it's so much fun.

Yes, but you're disturbing the neighbors and annoying the troll.

Tao te Carl

On 28 Feb 2003, the ever-whining, unimaginative racist Xander Cage who can't come up with an
original heading and never lets his lack of valid information prevent him from commenting was
mumbling out loud in the newsfroup alt.flame.[censored] and this happened to spew from his mongoloid
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However, in the water the rules change. Those with denser muscle/bone structure aren't going to
be as buoyant, and they'll be fighting against this no matter how much they train or how
talented they are.

It was thought that blacks couldn't play golf and or tennis because of all reasons.....these were
"white" sports.

Their lack of representation in those sports I would think was largely due to social barriers, and
I'd bet at least in part due to a limited desire on the part of blacks to participate in
significant numbers.

Although, can't help but notice a continued dearth of black tennis or golf champions. By the way,
Tiger Woods isn't black. Physiological? Dunno, but swimming is another matter.

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You're living in an age where the dinosaurs ruled the land; I think it's about time you got back
to the present day.]

In "todays world", there are plenty of opportunities for blacks to swim. AAU teams all over the
place, and most high schools of any size have a swim team and it's among the least expensive high
school sports to participate in. College scouts are always looking for talent, especially in today's
PC world, I guarantee if they shine, they'll be snatched up. What counts is the time clock, period.
Annoyingly inconvenient for you as it may be, the facts speak for themselves. In world class
circles, true negroid blacks aren't competitive in the water, just as whites aren't competitive in
sprinting, for similar physiological reasons.

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Here are the results of the last Summer Olympics from Sydney. One black, one latino and 23 WHITE
MEN, were the top finishers.

Wow! Those white boys may not be too bright, but they sure can run.

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1 NOOL, Erki 8641 - White 2 SEBRLE, 8606 - White 3 HUFFINS, 8595 - negro 4 MACEY, Dean 8567 -
White 5 PAPPAS, Tom 8425 - White 6 DVORAK, Tomas 8385 - White 7 BUSEMANN, Frank 8351 - White 8
ZSIVOCZKY, Attila 8277 - White 9 SCHMID, Stefan 8206 - White 10 DAGARD, Henrik 8178 - White 11
KURTOSI, Zsolt 8149 - White 12 ANIBAL, Mario 8136 - White 13 LOBODIN, Lev 8071 - White 14 RYBA,
Jiri 8056 - White 15 DUANY, Raul 8054 - latino 16 YURKOV, Olexandr 7993 - White 17 KASEORG, Indrek
7932 - White 18 AMBROSCH, Klaus 7917 - White 19 HERNU, 7909 - White 20 BOULINEAU, Wilfrid 7821 -
White 21 JANVRIN, Kip 7726 - White 22 MYKHAYLENKO, Volodymyr 7676 - White 23 LAUKHIN, Fedir 7652 -
White 24 HAMALAINEN, Eduard 7520 - White 25 MACZEY, Mike 4030 - - - - - White

Blacks are not only group underreprsentive as you go to higher levels of swimming. Asians while good
in international competition in Japan and China make up a small number of top swimmers but in a
state like California they represent about 25 to 30 percent of the school and age group swimmers.
Hispanic swimmers that are in the top in American college swimming are mainly from national teams of
different Latin American Countries, but few of them come from the United States or from immirgrant
families that came here when the children were young. Pablo Morales, the last hispanic swimmer to
medal in the olympics.