Lots a Snow

lance said:

Central Park was picture postcard goregeous....ran into about
a dozen runners loving the weather

Good for you, for getting out in it. 'tis beautiful out there, no
doubt about it. Even Brooklyn looks pretty good under 2' of snow.

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Good for you, for getting out in it. 'tis beautiful out there, no
doubt about it. Even Brooklyn looks pretty good under 2' of snow.

And now, here's Dan for the weather in L.A.:

Well, Charlie, we're looking at about 80F under clear, windless skies.

Going to a Neighborhood Association Pot Luck in a few minutes, and need to
be prepared for about 3" of grass. I'm wearing my waffles. Gotta get some
more sunscreen.

Back to you, Charlie...

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Going to a Neighborhood Association Pot Luck in a few minutes, and need to

be prepared for about 3" of grass.
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So the neighbors are getting together to smoke a little acapulco gold
or maui wowi and you're bracing up for a 3" in spliff?

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"Jeff Tongue, a National Weather Service meteorologist, said 24.8
inches of snow had been measured in Central Park at 1 p.m., the second
most ever recorded there. The continuing precipitation could threaten
the all-time mark of 26.4 inches in December 1947".

90 miles north and we got maybe 3 inches. I was hoping for more but not
as much as you're getting. I did manage a blustery 5

-DF

here in NYC doug...we broke the all time recorded record...26.9" from
about 11pm on Sat night through to 3pm-ish on Sunday. it was kind of
crazy sunday morning because this snow storm came with thunder and
lightning. no kidding...excpetionally rare. furthermore there was an
actual "eye", like a hurricane off the NJ/NY coast....of this
storm...very much like the movie "The Day After". This storm of this
magnitude /eye they say was due to the unusually warm Atlantic
waters....

The USA XC Championships are in 6 days in Van Courtland Park. It's
supposed to hit 50 degreed by weeks end. Should be a muddy / sloppy
race.

Dan Stumpus said:

Well, Charlie, we're looking at about 80F under clear, windless skies.

Why, you BAS'-turd!

Keep taunting me like that, and I may just move out there and become
your neighbor. When property values consequently plummet we'll see
who's lauging, mister sunny eighties.

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"Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Good for you, for getting out in it. 'tis beautiful out there, no
doubt about it. Even Brooklyn looks pretty good under 2' of snow.

And now, here's Dan for the weather in L.A.:

Well, Charlie, we're looking at about 80F under clear, windless skies.

Too hot! This time of year Georgia has the best running weather. ;-)

--
Phil M.

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here in NYC doug...we broke the all time recorded record...26.9" from
about 11pm on Sat night through to 3pm-ish on Sunday. it was kind of
crazy sunday morning because this snow storm came with thunder and
lightning. no kidding...excpetionally rare. furthermore there was an
actual "eye", like a hurricane off the NJ/NY coast....of this
storm...very much like the movie "The Day After". This storm of this
magnitude /eye they say was due to the unusually warm Atlantic
waters....

Are you running in this madness? Even 1 mile would classify you as a feat
accomplisher! ;-)

--
Phil M.

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Going to a Neighborhood Association Pot Luck in a few minutes, and need
to
be prepared for about 3" of grass.

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So the neighbors are getting together to smoke a little acapulco gold
or maui wowi and you're bracing up for a 3" in spliff?

Actually, here in LA, when we say grass, nowadays it's understood to be the
stuff that needs mowing every week, and which grows in Thorstein Veblen's
"conspicuously unconsumed pasture" in front of the house.

-- Dan (who's gonna have to look up "spliff"😉

"Phil M." <[email hidden]> wrote

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Well, Charlie, we're looking at about 80F under clear, windless skies.

Too hot! This time of year Georgia has the best running weather. ;-)

I made sure to get started before 8am...Actually, this is a bit of a heat
wave, the avg temps in Feb are normally in the 50-65 range.

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"Jeff Tongue, a National Weather Service meteorologist, said 24.8
inches of snow had been measured in Central Park at 1 p.m., the second
most ever recorded there. The continuing precipitation could threaten
the all-time mark of 26.4 inches in December 1947".

Albany NY a whopping total of .69 of an inch!
I'm gald we didn't get two feet but I was hoping for 6 inches or so, this
would cover the ice on the trails that are still icy, some of the PineBush
trails are runnable but some are ice and to do some XC skiing!

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Central Park was picture postcard goregeous....ran into about a dozen
runners loving the weather and plugging (running) through this stuff.
We kind of gave each other the "we're crazy & thumb's up" look.
Spotted several XC skiers, 1 snow shoe'ing person, a couple of snow
boarders.

I don't believe there is snow in the city hosting the Olympics
(Turin)..only in the mountains over there........it's all here in NYC.

...and it's still snowing....

Parker Race said:

this would cover the ice on the trails that are still icy

Parker, I don't know if you get enough days of icy to justify the
purchase - in retrospect, I don't - but I can heartily endorse the
efficacy of IceBug running shoes, with spring-mounted retractable
carbide spikes so they work on ice and snow and pavement (but not so
much for newly refinished hardwood floors).

I was able to employ my pair this morning for the first time this
season, and as always they effectively eliminated the ice - traction
comparable to regular shoes on dry pavement. The only surface which
remains even a minor nuisance in these shoes is a thick blanket of
loose snow so that your foot doesn't hit bottom and find something to
grip.

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Parker Race said:

this would cover the ice on the trails that are still icy

Parker, I don't know if you get enough days of icy to justify the
purchase - in retrospect, I don't - but I can heartily endorse the
efficacy of IceBug running shoes, with spring-mounted retractable
carbide spikes so they work on ice and snow and pavement (but not so
much for newly refinished hardwood floors).

Thanks, I never thought to look for something like that though I have
thought to myself that retractable spikes would be a great idea. I used my
old trainers that have the homemade screws solution applied to them in the
trail run on Saturday. It wasn't icy but I was slippery due to a light coat
of snow on the grass and leaves. I tried shoes without them in my warmup and
I was slipping a lot.
The women's winner wore spikes.

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I was able to employ my pair this morning for the first time this
season, and as always they effectively eliminated the ice - traction
comparable to regular shoes on dry pavement. The only surface which
remains even a minor nuisance in these shoes is a thick blanket of
loose snow so that your foot doesn't hit bottom and find something to
grip.

I purchased Yaktrax this year and glad I did. I wanted to stay on the
trails as long as possible this year so my dog can run off leash. The
trails have been really icy. Our temperatures (up to recently) had been
hovering around 0 C so it would melt in the day and freeze at night. I was
running the trails one day and passed a woman who asked me how I could run
when she was having trouble walking on the ice. Highly recommended under
these conditions.
Jane

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Parker Race said:

this would cover the ice on the trails that are still icy

Parker, I don't know if you get enough days of icy to justify the
purchase - in retrospect, I don't - but I can heartily endorse the
efficacy of IceBug running shoes, with spring-mounted retractable
carbide spikes so they work on ice and snow and pavement (but not so
much for newly refinished hardwood floors).

Jane said:

I purchased Yaktrax this year and glad I did. I wanted to stay on the
trails as long as possible this year so my dog can run off leash. The
trails have been really icy. Our temperatures (up to recently) had been
hovering around 0 C so it would melt in the day and freeze at night. I was
running the trails one day and passed a woman who asked me how I could run
when she was having trouble walking on the ice. Highly recommended under
these conditions.
Jane

If you get cold and ice, that is the ice is hard, you might want to
consider screw shoes, ice joggers, or stabilicers. Where I am, yaktrax
tend to skid off the ice since there's nothing sharp to dig in and they
keep your shoe off the ice so reduces traction further - or at least
that's my experience. My yaktrax (original and pro) sit unused while I
run trails in snowshoes, stabilicers, or ice joggers (and on rare
occasion, just my shoes). The yaktrax are ok in snow or soft ice like
you get near freezing, but really treacherous on black ice, at least
where I am.

Also, I think there's more traction while running than while walking,
since there's a stronger footplant (more vertical). At least that's what
I think I've seen on some of my runs this winter, when I was going to
take a walk break and decided it wasn't worth it.

FWIW, we had a lot of ice last year also, and I was struggling with
yaktrax. I noticed many others doing just fine - and not one person was
wearing yaktrax besides myself. Many also had poles.

Just some different experiences from up north.

Dot

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Just wing it, it's an adventure; don't think about strategy.
~Julie Udchachon, in reference to the upcoming Susitna 2006

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The yaktrax are ok in snow or soft ice like you get near freezing, but
really treacherous on black ice, at least where I am.

I wondered about that. On one occasion when it was colder I thought there
was a bit more give, particularly on the downhills.

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Also, I think there's more traction while running than while walking,
since there's a stronger footplant (more vertical).

That has not been my experience. I have tried these conditions both with
and without the yaktrax and when I wasn't wearing them I ended up walking
because I found running too treacherous.

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"Jeff Tongue, a National Weather Service meteorologist, said 24.8
inches of snow had been measured in Central Park at 1 p.m., the second
most ever recorded there.

You don't know what real snow is... 😉

this time last year we got 7 feet in 48 hours
and I ran in it...

The continuing precipitation could threaten

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the all-time mark of 26.4 inches in December 1947".

Central Park was picture postcard goregeous....ran into about a dozen
runners loving the weather and plugging (running) through this stuff.
We kind of gave each other the "we're crazy & thumb's up" look.
Spotted several XC skiers, 1 snow shoe'ing person, a couple of snow
boarders.

I don't believe there is snow in the city hosting the Olympics
(Turin)..only in the mountains over there........it's all here in NYC.

...and it's still snowing....

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You don't know what real snow is... 😉

this time last year we got 7 feet in 48 hours
and I ran in it...

Is this like pool running, but in 7 feet of snow instead?

--
Phil M.

Phil M. said:

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You don't know what real snow is... 😉

this time last year we got 7 feet in 48 hours
and I ran in it...

Is this like pool running, but in 7 feet of snow instead?

I'd imagine so 😉 Our mid winter/spring snow
here has a high snow-water content/ Lot's of
resistence and it helps to keep the knees high
(as opposed to pushing water/snow with the feet/
knees/hams...

Actually the snow depth I ran in was about 42
inches about mid-blizzard. The seven feet was
cumulative total...