Lance's shifter

onefred said:

I noticed that other riders, like Ulrich, do the same.

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and Joseba Belocki

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I noticed that other riders, like Ulrich, do the same.

Dave

Where have you guys been? The down-tube shifter thing has been standard practice ( in the mountain
stages ) for a lot of riders for about 10 years...

Wade

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Zeen said:

I noticed in a recent Tour photo that Lance used a downtube shifter for his front chainring
during a mountain stage. I had read that it was to save weight but I can't believe it saves that
much weight even assuming he replaced his left STI shifter with a plain brake lever.

Weight is saved on cable as well as the shifter.

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Was weight savings the real reason for this? I suppose every gram counts.

That's the idea.

I wonder whether that cross he wears around his neck is titanium.

I noticed in a recent Tour photo that Lance used a downtube shifter for his front chainring during a
mountain stage. I had read that it was to save weight but I can't believe it saves that much weight
even assuming he replaced his left STI shifter with a plain brake lever. Was weight savings the real
reason for this? I suppose every gram counts.

Zeen said:

I noticed in a recent Tour photo that Lance used a downtube shifter for his front chainring during
a mountain stage. I had read that it was to save weight but I can't believe it saves that much
weight even assuming he replaced his left STI shifter with a plain brake lever.

Weight is saved on cable as well as the shifter.

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Was weight savings the real reason for this? I suppose every gram counts.

That's the idea.

~PB

I noticed that other riders, like Ulrich, do the same.

Dave

When you're as skinny as those guys, you don't really have the option to trin weight off your waist.
🙂 These guys get the bike right at the UCI mininum weight.

Zeen said:

I noticed in a recent Tour photo that Lance used a downtube shifter for

his

Quoted message said:

front chainring during a mountain stage. I had read that it was to save weight but I can't believe
it saves that much weight even assuming he replaced his left STI shifter with a plain brake lever.
Was weight savings the real reason for this? I suppose every gram counts.

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The ONCE guys had frames so light (through butting) that they would only last one stage. In the Tour
Italia a few years back Jalabert's frame had cracked by the time he crossed the finish line.

mfeller-<< I noticed in a recent Tour photo that Lance used a downtube shifter for his front
chainring during a mountain stage. I had read that it was to save weight but I can't believe it
saves that much weight even assuming he replaced his left STI shifter with a plain brake lever.

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May be a wee bit of weight savings but I think the other reason is to micro adjust the front der so
there is never any rubbing, particularly as these guys cross gear a lot, not worrying about wearing
anything out.

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Alex am I missing part of your message? It looks like you have everything marked as a quote
from another poster by having a > in front of everything including your name. I am assuming,
but not sure, that you added the remark "and Joseba Belocki" and then your name but am not
sure. What is going on?

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onefred said:

I noticed that other riders, like Ulrich, do the same.

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and Joseba Belocki

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Alex Wheaton

W K said:

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Weight is saved on cable as well as the shifter.

Long length of cable housing included.

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Was weight savings the real reason for this? I suppose every gram counts.

That's the idea.

I wonder whether that cross he wears around his neck is titanium.

Titanium plated carbon. He wouldn't ride without his cross, though.

~PB

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I noticed in a recent Tour photo that Lance used a downtube shifter for his front chainring during
a mountain stage. I had read that it was to save weight but I can't believe it saves that much
weight even assuming he replaced his left STI shifter with a plain brake lever. Was weight savings
the real reason for this? I suppose every gram counts.

Believe it. He is a weight weeny.
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Where have you guys been? The down-tube shifter thing has been standard practice ( in the mountain
stages ) for a lot of riders for about 10 years...

Actually, the "down-tube shifter thing" has been around much longer than 10 years, my friend.

Dave

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I noticed that other riders, like Ulrich, do the same.

and Joseba Belocki

It doesn't surprise me that Beloki uses a DTS for the front. I just didn't notice because he spent
so little time in front of the camera. I wasn't paying much attention to the equipment on the bikes
but seeing Ulrich reach down to shift was unmistakable.

Dave

What are you babbling about?

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

May be a wee bit of weight savings but I think the other reason is to micro adjust the front der
so there is never any rubbing, particularly as these guys cross gear a lot, not worrying about
wearing anything out.

If they're concerned about micro-adjustments, then an additional reason for downtube shifters
is that they aren't on moving handlbars, and don't have long cable housings that need to
constantly bend.

Hey, also, no cable in the wind.

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Where have you guys been? The down-tube shifter thing has been standard practice ( in the
mountain stages ) for a lot of riders for about 10 years...

Actually, the "down-tube shifter thing" has been around much longer than

10 years, my

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friend.

Dave

Ha. Ha. The context of the comment/discussion is that all professional riders (and 99% amateurs
races too) use STI/Ergo levers these days. In fact it has been that way for about 10 years. When did
Shimano introduce STI ? About 1991/92? However, to save weight for the mtn stages, many GC
contenders will use a down-tube lever for the front derailleur. A couple of posters seemed somewhat
surprised by this. I was mearly pointing out that it was nothing new.

Wade

onefred said:

What are you babbling about?

What are _you_ babbling about?

If you quoted, we'd know, then somebody could be properly offended. Instead, you have failed to
properly offend anybody.

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Rick Onanian

Could have something to do with Lance realising Shimano front shifters don't really work.

Jon

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I noticed in a recent Tour photo that Lance used a downtube shifter for

his

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front chainring during a mountain stage. I had read that it was to save weight but I can't believe
it saves that much weight even assuming he replaced his left STI shifter with a plain brake lever.
Was weight savings the real reason for this? I suppose every gram counts.