Cowing Hell !!!!!!

Chris Hill said:

I don't
think there was any aggressive intent on their part, but as someone else
remarked - you don't know how good their brakes are.

As someone who regularly feeds groups of 50 cattle outside often at
the bottom of a slope so that they approach at speed I can report that
their brakes are rubbish !

Fortunately their steering is excellent so the only way they will hit
you is if the intend to. In other words as long as your fsahion sense
doen't offend them you should be safe 😉

Ashley Sanders said:

Quoted message said:

So there are at least 317 people a year who don't leave sheep alone
and get themselves injured? Whatever are they up to :-)?

I remember being near Mam Tor many years ago when a bunch of
children stopped for their lunch. One child was sat on the
ground eating a sandwich and it only took a moment for
the child to be flat on his/her back with a sheep stood
over him/her trying to eat the sandwich! As it happened
the child didn't come out any the worse for the experience.

Ashley.

In thirty years of walking I've only met one similar fearless sheep -
also when sat down for lunch, enjoying the view somewhere in the
Yorkshire Dales. The pesky thing must have crept up behind me, because
it was suddenly over my shoulder trying to nibble my sandwich.

Thing was, it was a cold roast lamb sandwich !!!!

Not only dangerous these sheep, cannibals too.

The ridiculous thing is that sheep can be aggressive! I went walking out
on the Malverns once. The weather was pretty fowl, and it was pretty
foggy up there. I came across a lot of sheep herds during the day. Most
of the time they just ran away as I approached, or just watched me walk
past. But in the case of one sheep that I saw on a narrow path that
wasn't the case. Instead of walking/running away off the path like the
others it backed away for a short distance and then stopped dead. It
watched me approach and then the little b.st..d charged at me!

Of course whenever I tell anyone this they laugh. The idea of an
aggressive sheep sounds silly. But many people forget that any animal
that feels threatened is capable of aggression. I remember last year a
badger went on the rampage somewhere causing the hilarious sight of two
police officers having to stand on the bonnet of their car to get away
from it!

Simon

On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:56:03 +0000 (UTC), Simon Wyndham
<[email hidden]> wrote:

... >The ridiculous thing is that sheep can be aggressive! I went walking out
... >on the Malverns once. The weather was pretty fowl, and it was pretty
... >foggy up there. I came across a lot of sheep herds during the day. Most
... >of the time they just ran away as I approached, or just watched me walk
... >past. But in the case of one sheep that I saw on a narrow path that
... >wasn't the case. Instead of walking/running away off the path like the
... >others it backed away for a short distance and then stopped dead. It
... >watched me approach and then the little b.st..d charged at me!
... >
... >Of course whenever I tell anyone this they laugh. The idea of an
... >aggressive sheep sounds silly. But many people forget that any animal
... >that feels threatened is capable of aggression. I remember last year a
... >badger went on the rampage somewhere causing the hilarious sight of two
... >police officers having to stand on the bonnet of their car to get away
... >from it!
... >
... >Simon

In the days gone by in "Bloody Bill Brock's" time, they say the men
who dug badgers out used to put cinders in their wellingtons as the
badger would only let go when he heard the crunch of bones breaking !

Mike P

Simon Wyndham said:

The ridiculous thing is that sheep can be aggressive! I went walking out
on the Malverns once. The weather was pretty fowl, and it was pretty
foggy up there. I came across a lot of sheep herds during the day. Most
of the time they just ran away as I approached, or just watched me walk
past. But in the case of one sheep that I saw on a narrow path that
wasn't the case. Instead of walking/running away off the path like the
others it backed away for a short distance and then stopped dead. It
watched me approach and then the little b.st..d charged at me!

Theres always a few, not including tups who can be very dodgy when the
hormones are circulating.

Used to have a few usual suspects that would take on the dog. The dog
enjoyed this :-)

They got special treatment come dipping time.
Normally all you get is a bit of foot stomping.

Richard Webb

In message <[email hidden]>
Charlie King

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:47:56 +0000, in
<[email hidden]> (uk.rec.walking) Chris Hill

Quoted message said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Chris
Lawrence <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Holy [censored].

http://photos.holosys.co.uk/p/30197

We wuz lucky!

I knew which photo that was going to be even before I clicked on the
link.

That's not a cow, though, that's a coo - which is a different kettle
of fish.

Why did they ride into battle on horses in the past? A few hundred
people charging at you on those things would make a hell of an
impression! Perhaps they can't be trained.

--
Simon Challands

In message <[email hidden]>

AndyP said:

"Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

317 people injured by sheep?? Now I've always been wary of cattle, but
should I be keeping my eyes peeled for dangerous sheep? Am I really 4
times more likely to be injured by a sheep than a cow?

I know someone who was injured by a sheep. Mind you, they were trying to
ride it around an abandoned house at the time and didn't have the sense to
give up when the daft animal decided to jump out of the window. They're
usually quite safe if left alone.

It doesn't sound like the sheep was the daft one there!

--
Simon Challands

Dave Fawthrop <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

No just sharing my experience.
You may have heard it before but others will not. Newsgroups have a
high turnover of subscribers.

Because they all get trampled by cows eventually. <G>

I must admit I have started carrying a pole, or having it in the sack,
lately, and it does seem to have an effect, but it is a long time since
cattle (young bulls) have charged at us, and I had to use my arms and
shout, which drove them away only temporarily.

It was a very unpleasant experience, and whereas I used to carefully
study a herd to check for a bull, I now treat all cattle warily, would
never walk a dog between them, and try to circumnavigate them anyway.
--
Gordon Harris

In message <[email hidden]>, Richard Webb
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Simon Wyndham said:

The ridiculous thing is that sheep can be aggressive! I went walking out
on the Malverns once. The weather was pretty fowl, and it was pretty
foggy up there. I came across a lot of sheep herds during the day. Most
of the time they just ran away as I approached, or just watched me walk
past. But in the case of one sheep that I saw on a narrow path that
wasn't the case. Instead of walking/running away off the path like the
others it backed away for a short distance and then stopped dead. It
watched me approach and then the little b.st..d charged at me!

Theres always a few, not including tups who can be very dodgy when the
hormones are circulating.

Used to have a few usual suspects that would take on the dog. The dog
enjoyed this :-)

On "One Man and His Dog" recently there was the hilarious spectacle of a
ewe going nose-to-nose with a sheepdog. The dog looked a nit nonplussed.
--
Chris Hill

W. D. Grey <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, AndyP
<[email hidden]> writes

<Labrador savages coat>

Quoted message said:

I believe you did say the dog was a Labrador.

I know I have a Lab and may be considered biased, but in truth, in your
case it was completely out of character for a Lab to behave like that.
Was there any reason - encroaching on his space" for example? Was he
protecting someone maybe?

Mine would tend to approach you in a friendly, maybe boisterous way,
then give you a mighty lick :-)

Labradors are usually big, daft friendly dogs, and any injury would be
due to over-enthusiasm on their part, I would imagine, but much depends
on the owner.

As for a stick, I once had to rescue an elderly lady from a <big daft
labrador> which had reared up with its paws on her shoulders.
I took the stout walking stick from her and hit the dog sharply with it.

It didn't budge at all until in desperation I reluctantly hit it with
all my strength across its shoulders, when it turned and looked
gormlessly at me, dropped on all fours and wandered off.

I walked along a lane once with a mate who was terrified of dogs, and we
passed a farm gate where a border collie was barking at us. I
walked straight past, avoiding eye contact with the dog, but my mate
removed his rucksack, and thrust it in front of him towards the dog like
a threatening shield! He was lucky to get past unscathed, as he had
provoked the dog, and I pointed out that it had simply been doing its
job, warning of our approach.

As for sticks, our friendly border collie [censored] became a snarling fury
if anyone pointed a stick at her, and I soon learned not to tease her!
A postman who didn't like her barking, and swung a kick at her had his
trousers nipped in reply, but once he had learned to speak to her and
fuss her she didn't bother him again.

Most dogs are friendly animals, but those that attack should be put down
and their owners forbidden to keep dogs.
Don't get me going about Japanese Akitos. :-(
--
Gordon Harris

Fran <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The bad news is it reports not 317 but over 600 "home and leisure"
accidents involving sheep or lamb.

"__????__"

Boggle

Never dropped a frozen leg of lamb on your foot?
--
Gordon Harris

Martin said:

So there are at least 317 people a year who don't leave sheep alone and
get themselves injured? Whatever are they up to :-)?

Farming?

In message <[email hidden]>, Martin
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Ashley Sanders said:

Quoted message said:

So there are at least 317 people a year who don't leave sheep alone
and get themselves injured? Whatever are they up to :-)?

I remember being near Mam Tor many years ago when a bunch of
children stopped for their lunch. One child was sat on the
ground eating a sandwich and it only took a moment for
the child to be flat on his/her back with a sheep stood
over him/her trying to eat the sandwich! As it happened
the child didn't come out any the worse for the experience.
Ashley.

In thirty years of walking I've only met one similar fearless sheep -
also when sat down for lunch, enjoying the view somewhere in the
Yorkshire Dales. The pesky thing must have crept up behind me, because
it was suddenly over my shoulder trying to nibble my sandwich.

So you've never been up Helvellyn?

Quoted message said:

Thing was, it was a cold roast lamb sandwich !!!!

Not only dangerous these sheep, cannibals too.

--
Surfer!
Email to: ramwater at uk2 dot net

In message <[email hidden]>, Simon
Wyndham <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

The ridiculous thing is that sheep can be aggressive!

Years back I saw a couple of Swaledale rams setting about each other.
The would take a run, and land horn-to-horn with a huge bang. They
looked like their heads were ringing for a while, and then they would do
it all again.

And I've seen them giving the dog some eye back in 'one man and his
dog'!

--
Surfer!
Email to: ramwater at uk2 dot net

Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Martin contained the
following:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Yebbut it also reports 800 people being injured by a bunch of flowers,
bouquet or posy. Work that one out.

It does nothing of the sort - it reports that 800 "home and leisure"
accidents involving flowers, bouqets or posies. I was extremely careful
in the wording of my post to mirror ROSPA's definitions.

I'm glad that a couple of other posters got the underlying humour about
the involvement of sheep in accidents :-)

I got it, and responded with some of my own - surprised you didn't see
it ;-)
--
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Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Gordon contained
the following:

Quoted message said:

Don't get me going about Japanese Akitos. :-(

I know what you mean Gordon. They can't all be bad surely?

--
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It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
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Dave Fawthrop said:

| I think Dave was saying we would save lives by waving sticks at cars.
^^^^ ;-)

I knew I should have responded to the original post and not Bill's
snipped version.

Dave F said:

"Take a stick and act like you are bigger and stronger than all
animals.

We kill ten people per day on the roads, and one very occasionally due
to cows when walking."

Judith

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 19:00:44 +0000, Judith
<[email hidden]> wrote:

| On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:19:58 +0000, Dave Fawthrop
| <[email hidden]> wrote:
|
| >| I think Dave was saying we would save lives by waving sticks at cars.
| > ^^^^;-)
| I knew I should have responded to the original post and not Bill's
| snipped version.
|
| Dave F said:
|
| "Take a stick and act like you are bigger and stronger than all
| animals.
|
| We kill ten people per day on the roads, and one very occasionally due
| to cows when walking."

Now you are being silly. :-(
--
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 13:48:35 +0000, Gordon <[email hidden]>
wrote:

| Dave Fawthrop <[email hidden]> wrote
| >
| >No just sharing my experience.
| >You may have heard it before but others will not. Newsgroups have a
| >high turnover of subscribers.
|
| Because they all get trampled by cows eventually. <G>
|
| I must admit I have started carrying a pole, or having it in the sack,
| lately, and it does seem to have an effect, but it is a long time since
| cattle (young bulls) have charged at us, and I had to use my arms and
| shout, which drove them away only temporarily.

You're learning :-)
--
Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

In message <[email hidden]>, Simon Challands
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

In message <[email hidden]>
Charlie King

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:47:56 +0000, in
<[email hidden]> (uk.rec.walking) Chris Hill

Quoted message said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Chris
Lawrence <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

>Holy [censored].
>
>http://photos.holosys.co.uk/p/30197
>
>We wuz lucky!

I knew which photo that was going to be even before I clicked on the
link.

That's not a cow, though, that's a coo - which is a different kettle
of fish.

Why did they ride into battle on horses in the past? A few hundred
people charging at you on those things would make a hell of an
impression! Perhaps they can't be trained.

You'd probably need a large number of men with sticks running behind
them and waving their arms.
--
Chris Hill