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  1. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    317 people injured by sheep??

    Er, dare one ask how? No, perhaps not.

    Well having been fascinated by this report, I've spent a few minutes
    interograting ROSPA's database.

    http://www.hassandlass.org.uk/query/MainSelector.aspx

    which appears to be based on reports gathered from keywords on A&E reports.

    The bad news is it reports not 317 but over 600 "home and leisure"
    accidents involving sheep or lamb.


    "__????__"

    Boggle

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  2. Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Fran
    contained the following:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.hassandlass.org.uk/query/MainSelector.aspx

    which appears to be based on reports gathered from keywords on A&E reports.

    The bad news is it reports not 317 but over 600 "home and leisure"
    accidents involving sheep or lamb.

    Yebbut it also reports 800 people being injured by a bunch of flowers,
    bouquet or posy. Work that one out.

    --
    Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
    It's only Usenet, no one dies.
    My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
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  3. Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Geoff
    Berrow contained the following:

    Quoted message said:

    Yebbut it also reports 800 people being injured by a bunch of flowers,
    bouquet or posy. Work that one out.

    Fascinating site.
    In 2002, 62 people were injured by a serviette or napkin.

    --
    Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
    It's only Usenet, no one dies.
    My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
    Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    317 people injured by sheep??


    Er, dare one ask how? No, perhaps not.


    Various STDs?
    --
    Craig Oldfield

  5. On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:49:41 +0000, Chris Hill
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    | In message <[email hidden]>, Geoff Berrow
    | <[email hidden]> writes
    | >Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Dave
    | >Fawthrop contained the following:
    | >
    | >>Leave your dog at home.
    | >
    | >That's going a bit far.
    | >>
    | >>Take a stick and act like you are bigger and stronger than all
    | >>animals.
    | >
    | >I keep my dog close and give them a wide berth. I've been much more
    | >wary since reading these reports, especially if they have calves.
    |
    | Me too. Don't have a dog, but I certainly give them a wide berth, make
    | plenty of noise when approaching and try to make sure I've got a wall or
    | fence within a couple of strides.

    One of my regular paths is on the downwind side of wall/hedge where
    the cows stand to keep out of the wind. I walk straight at them and
    shout "Gurrrnn" as taught by a farmer uncle <mumble> years ago. I
    point my stick towards the wall, and the cows, and sometimes calves
    move off the path.
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
    17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
    For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

  6. On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:34:40 +0000, "W. D. Grey"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    | In article <[email hidden]>, Geoff Berrow
    | <[email hidden]> writes
    | >Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Dave
    | >Fawthrop contained the following:
    | >
    | >>Leave your dog at home.
    | >
    | >That's going a bit far.
    | >>
    | >>Take a stick and act like you are bigger and stronger than all
    | >>animals.
    | >
    | >I keep my dog close and give them a wide berth. I've been much more
    | >wary since reading these reports, especially if they have calves.
    | >
    |
    | Take no notice Geoff - he's on is hobby horse again !

    No just sharing my experience.
    You may have heard it before but others will not. Newsgroups have a
    high turnover of subscribers.
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
    17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
    For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

  7. On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:57:32 +0000, Judith
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    | On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:34:40 +0000, "W. D. Grey"
    | <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |
    | >>>Leave your dog at home.
    | >>
    | >>That's going a bit far.
    | >>>
    | >>>Take a stick and act like you are bigger and stronger than all
    | >>>animals.
    | >>
    | >>I keep my dog close and give them a wide berth. I've been much more
    | >>wary since reading these reports, especially if they have calves.
    | >>
    | >
    | >Take no notice Geoff - he's on is hobby horse again !
    |
    | Oh no, don't take your hobby horse. Cows are frightened of
    | clip-clopping.
    |
    | I think Dave was saying we would save lives by waving sticks at cars.
    ^^^^ ;-)
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
    17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
    For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

  8. On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:30:12 -0000, "AndyP"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    | "coastwatch" <[email hidden]> wrote
    |
    | > Not funny really - news item about 6 year old woman killed by cows
    | > while walking :-(
    |
    | The only animals I've ever been attacked by whilst out and about are other
    | people's dogs. I've got a jacket with a hole in it since an encounter with
    | an overweight labrador last week, good job it was cold enough for several
    | layers. If farmers can shoot dogs for worrying sheep surely I should be
    | able to shoot them for ripping my jacket?

    If a dog actually gets to flesh, a court will often order the
    destruction of the dog.

    All dogs stay well out of range of my stick.
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
    17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
    For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

  9. "Dave Fawthrop" <[email hidden]> wrote

    If a dog actually gets to flesh, a court will often order the
    destruction of the dog.

    The dog in question was actually outside Tesco's rather than out in the
    countryside. Seeing as all I had to show for the attack apart from a ripped
    jacket was a bruise afterwards and the owner didn't seem to be quite all
    there I didn't bother too much about it but I'm feeling a bit bad about not
    making an effort to bring it to the attention of the police now. My arm
    could easily be a small girl's face next time after all.

  10. On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:39:33 +0000, Geoff Berrow
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    | Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Fran
    | contained the following:
    |
    | >> http://www.hassandlass.org.uk/query/MainSelector.aspx
    | >>
    | >> which appears to be based on reports gathered from keywords on A&E reports.
    | >>
    | >> The bad news is it reports not 317 but over 600 "home and leisure"
    | >> accidents involving sheep or lamb.
    |
    | Yebbut it also reports 800 people being injured by a bunch of flowers,
    | bouquet or posy. Work that one out.

    We are suffering from reporting of more accidents, and computer
    searching of the result.

    This would flag up such things as:-
    "I was putting the flowers in a vase, which I knocked on the floor,
    where it broke, I cut my hand picking up the pieces.
    "My boyfriend gave me a bunch of flowers, and I was so surprised, I
    walked into a lamppost, and broke my nose"
    Nothing to do with the flowers really.
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
    17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
    For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

  11. On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:47:25 -0000, "AndyP"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    | "Dave Fawthrop" <[email hidden]> wrote
    |
    | If a dog actually gets to flesh, a court will often order the
    | destruction of the dog.
    |
    | The dog in question was actually outside Tesco's rather than out in the
    | countryside. Seeing as all I had to show for the attack apart from a ripped
    | jacket was a bruise afterwards and the owner didn't seem to be quite all
    | there I didn't bother too much about it but I'm feeling a bit bad aboutnot
    | making an effort to bring it to the attention of the police now. My arm
    | could easily be a small girl's face next time after all.

    Your quote marker is broke/non expectant.
    I did not say that :-(

    BTW Raw message says exactly the same.
    --
    Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
    17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
    For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

  12. On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:47:56 +0000, in
    <[email hidden]> (uk.rec.walking) Chris Hill

    Quoted message said:

    In message <[email hidden]>, Chris
    Lawrence <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Holy [censored].

    http://photos.holosys.co.uk/p/30197

    We wuz lucky!

    I knew which photo that was going to be even before I clicked on the
    link.

    That's not a cow, though, that's a coo - which is a different kettle
    of fish.
    --
    Charlie

  13. Quoted message said:

    So there are at least 317 people a year who don't leave sheep alone and
    get themselves injured? Whatever are they up to :-)?

    I remember being near Mam Tor many years ago when a bunch of
    children stopped for their lunch. One child was sat on the
    ground eating a sandwich and it only took a moment for
    the child to be flat on his/her back with a sheep stood
    over him/her trying to eat the sandwich! As it happened
    the child didn't come out any the worse for the experience.

    Ashley.

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, AndyP
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    The dog in question was actually outside Tesco's rather than out in the
    countryside. Seeing as all I had to show for the attack apart from a ripped
    jacket was a bruise afterwards and the owner didn't seem to be quite all
    there I didn't bother too much about it but I'm feeling a bit bad about not
    making an effort to bring it to the attention of the police now. My arm
    could easily be a small girl's face next time after all.

    I believe you did say the dog was a Labrador.

    I know I have a Lab and may be considered biased, but in truth, in your
    case it was completely out of character for a Lab to behave like that.
    Was there any reason - encroaching on his space" for example? Was he
    protecting someone maybe?

    Mine would tend to approach you in a friendly, maybe boisterous way,
    then give you a mighty lick :-)
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

  15. On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:08:16 +0000, in
    <[email hidden]> (uk.rec.walking) Martin

    Quoted message said:

    317 people injured by sheep?? Now I've always been wary of cattle, but
    should I be keeping my eyes peeled for dangerous sheep? Am I really 4
    times more likely to be injured by a sheep than a cow?

    Surly owd tups can be reet nasty bastuds.
    --
    Charlie


  16. Quoted message said:

    Probably, if that includes farm workers. They tend to be wary of cows,
    but think nothing of trying to persuade panicky sheep to take an
    unwanted bath. There are also a lot more sheep out there, at least round
    here.

    Best not to act too wary in front of your own stock. They must know
    their place. Thats how it works - You da boss! (still dont trust them
    though)

    I would have thought when followed by that pack of curious 18month
    olds, wandering when you are going to offload that bale on your back,
    the worst thing to do is run.

    Game on and if you trip, their brakes are good, but possibly not good
    enough.

    Keep turning round with plenty of eye contact. This is a place where
    a pole becomes very handy.

    Richard Webb

  17. In message <[email hidden]>, Charlie King
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:47:56 +0000, in
    <[email hidden]> (uk.rec.walking) Chris Hill

    Quoted message said:

    In message <[email hidden]>, Chris
    Lawrence <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Holy [censored].

    http://photos.holosys.co.uk/p/30197

    We wuz lucky!

    I knew which photo that was going to be even before I clicked on the
    link.

    That's not a cow, though, that's a coo - which is a different kettle
    of fish.

    Still scary whether it's a coo or a cow. I was running through that
    field a couple of weeks ago, as it happens. The coos were all at one
    end, where I came in. Ran past them with no problem, as usual. As I got
    to about the centre of the (big) field I glanced around to see the
    entire herd heading my way at speed. Something must have spooked them.
    These days I run with a combined GPS/HRM. It was interesting to see the
    data for that bit as my speed more than doubled, albeit briefly. I don't
    think there was any aggressive intent on their part, but as someone else
    remarked - you don't know how good their brakes are.
    --
    Chris Hill

  18. In message <[email hidden]>, Ashley Sanders
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So there are at least 317 people a year who don't leave sheep alone
    and get themselves injured? Whatever are they up to :-)?

    I remember being near Mam Tor many years ago when a bunch of
    children stopped for their lunch. One child was sat on the
    ground eating a sandwich and it only took a moment for
    the child to be flat on his/her back with a sheep stood
    over him/her trying to eat the sandwich! As it happened
    the child didn't come out any the worse for the experience.

    Had a similar experience with sheep round there. In my case, one stuck
    its head over my shoulder to get at my sarnie. Must be because they're
    so used to people feeding them.
    --
    Chris Hill

  19. Geoff Berrow said:

    Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Fran
    contained the following:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.hassandlass.org.uk/query/MainSelector.aspx

    which appears to be based on reports gathered from keywords on A&E reports.

    The bad news is it reports not 317 but over 600 "home and leisure"
    accidents involving sheep or lamb.

    Yebbut it also reports 800 people being injured by a bunch of flowers,
    bouquet or posy. Work that one out.


    It does nothing of the sort - it reports that 800 "home and leisure"
    accidents involving flowers, bouqets or posies. I was extremely careful
    in the wording of my post to mirror ROSPA's definitions.

    I'm glad that a couple of other posters got the underlying humour about
    the involvement of sheep in accidents :-)

  20. On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:02:28 GMT, [email hidden] (Richard Webb)
    wrote:

    ... >
    ... >>Probably, if that includes farm workers. They tend to be wary of cows,
    ... >>but think nothing of trying to persuade panicky sheep to take an
    ... >>unwanted bath. There are also a lot more sheep out there, at least round
    ... >>here.
    ... >
    ... >Best not to act too wary in front of your own stock. They must know
    ... >their place. Thats how it works - You da boss! (still dont trust them
    ... >though)
    ... >
    ... >I would have thought when followed by that pack of curious 18month
    ... >olds, wandering when you are going to offload that bale on your back,
    ... >the worst thing to do is run.
    ... >
    ... >Game on and if you trip, their brakes are good, but possibly not good
    ... >enough.
    ... >
    ... >Keep turning round with plenty of eye contact. This is a place where
    ... >a pole becomes very handy.
    ... >
    ... >
    ... >
    ... >Richard Webb

    There is a difference between animals just being boistrous and ones
    with bad intent.
    Joe Public will find it hard to separate the two and get the wrong
    impression, but wisely not wait to find out and remove themselves from
    a situtation.
    I have milked herds of up to 300 cows and only once been attacked.
    This was because we separated her from the herd one morning to get her
    in calf. She leapt over fences and was awol for 12 hrs and charged
    anyone within 100m when eventually found holed up in a windbreak of
    trees.
    The technique for her capture was for me to stand at the rear of the
    landrover and when she charged I would leap into the back of the
    vehicle be driven at high speed until she stopped. An hour of this got
    her back to her bovine mates in the yard where she happily came in for
    milking that night.
    So the boss says we could now serve her to get her in calf. What !!
    Who the hell was going to put her in a calving pen in 9 months time?
    I don't think so :-)
    Pies.
    So as Richard says ..... good eye contact will keep everyone on their
    toes. If you stand long enough they will lick you to death :-)
    If you have a dog best to let it off the leash if things get a bit too
    close and you are losing control of the situtation. They are very
    inquisitive of dogs they do not know especially if you have a vocal
    dog.

    The boss says we will try and
    Mike P

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