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  1. About a year ago, my sister and her boyfriend (now husband) moved into a
    home with an electric range in their kitchen. So, last night (New Years
    Eve), I was up until around 1:30am making food for my dad's birthday
    party, which my sister and I made at her house tonight.

    I cook with gas appliances; always have. So, the meatballs turned out
    great. I tried a few for breakfast. Delicious! This afternoon, I loaded
    the pot of meatballs into my car along with numerous other food items
    and drove to Jan and Rob's house. I got there right on time.

    I proceeded to put the pot of meatballs on my sister's range to warm
    them up. I cranked up her electric range to about 75% of maximum. A few
    minutes later, meatballs are bubbling away, so I turned off the heat. I
    realized I was late picking up a friend from a nearby train station, so
    I asked my sister to check on the meatballs, then I drove over to pick
    up my friend. I also did the same thing with the pot of homemade mac &
    cheese I made this morning.

    My sister calls me on my cell phone just as I arrived at the train
    station. Jan told me the meatballs are incinerated! I asked Jan to taste
    one. She does. Disgusting. While I was looking for my friend at the
    train station, Jan and Rob tried to wash off the meatballs, thinking it
    was the sauce that was burnt. No go. Fortunately, the train station is
    adjacent to a nice supermarket. My friend Jen and I went into the
    supermarket and I picked up three of those roasted chickens, and a roll
    of paper towels (that my sister requested).

    I got back to Jan and Rob's a few minutes later and Jan showed me that I
    must have not turned off the burner, as I thought I had. It was still
    on, but not on the high setting. I had no idea because the red color of
    the burner element went off, so I thought it was reasonably cool. If it
    was gas, I could have easily seen that the burner was not off.
    Fortunately, I did not make that mistake with the pot of mac & cheese,
    so it came out fine and it was a big hit at the party.

    My sister consoled me and she said it took her a while to get used to
    her electric range. Rob, the philosophy teacher (literally), also tried
    to console me, by explaining that the outcome was the same either way,
    in that we all got to enjoy some great food and nice company and we all
    had a nice time. But I would have much preferred not to have to spend an
    extra $20 on dinner (which my sister thanked me for), and I would have
    preferred those meatballs go into the guests' tummies rather than a
    garbage disposal. I will deal with the burnt pot tomorrow!

    Did I mention, I hate electric ranges? Whomever thought up the idea of
    an electric range out to be slaughtered and forced to eat my burned
    meatballs!

  2. "Stan Horwitz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Did I mention, I hate electric ranges? Whomever thought up the idea of
    an electric range out to be slaughtered and forced to eat my burned
    meatballs!

    The only thing I like about an electric range is this:
    On my jenn-air I have one side of the black raised solid elements. In the
    winter they are great because they heat the room for 1-2 hours after you
    turn them off. God forbid if you ever set anything down on them before
    then. After they are cool, I leave a baking pan on top of them just in case
    one gets turned on, it gives one a chance to not get burnt as badly; say if
    you place your hand down on it.
    But I do like to use them for long-slow cooking in the winter.

    Sorry about your meatballs. Glad you didn't lose your pan.
    Dee Dee

  3. On Sun 01 Jan 2006 08:57:52p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Stan
    Horwitz?

    Quoted message said:

    About a year ago, my sister and her boyfriend (now husband) moved into a
    home with an electric range in their kitchen. So, last night (New Years
    Eve), I was up until around 1:30am making food for my dad's birthday
    party, which my sister and I made at her house tonight.

    I cook with gas appliances; always have. So, the meatballs turned out
    great. I tried a few for breakfast. Delicious! This afternoon, I loaded
    the pot of meatballs into my car along with numerous other food items
    and drove to Jan and Rob's house. I got there right on time.

    I proceeded to put the pot of meatballs on my sister's range to warm
    them up. I cranked up her electric range to about 75% of maximum. A few
    minutes later, meatballs are bubbling away, so I turned off the heat. I
    realized I was late picking up a friend from a nearby train station, so
    I asked my sister to check on the meatballs, then I drove over to pick
    up my friend. I also did the same thing with the pot of homemade mac &
    cheese I made this morning.

    My sister calls me on my cell phone just as I arrived at the train
    station. Jan told me the meatballs are incinerated! I asked Jan to taste
    one. She does. Disgusting. While I was looking for my friend at the
    train station, Jan and Rob tried to wash off the meatballs, thinking it
    was the sauce that was burnt. No go. Fortunately, the train station is
    adjacent to a nice supermarket. My friend Jen and I went into the
    supermarket and I picked up three of those roasted chickens, and a roll
    of paper towels (that my sister requested).

    I got back to Jan and Rob's a few minutes later and Jan showed me that I
    must have not turned off the burner, as I thought I had. It was still
    on, but not on the high setting. I had no idea because the red color of
    the burner element went off, so I thought it was reasonably cool. If it
    was gas, I could have easily seen that the burner was not off.
    Fortunately, I did not make that mistake with the pot of mac & cheese,
    so it came out fine and it was a big hit at the party.

    My sister consoled me and she said it took her a while to get used to
    her electric range. Rob, the philosophy teacher (literally), also tried
    to console me, by explaining that the outcome was the same either way,
    in that we all got to enjoy some great food and nice company and we all
    had a nice time. But I would have much preferred not to have to spend an
    extra $20 on dinner (which my sister thanked me for), and I would have
    preferred those meatballs go into the guests' tummies rather than a
    garbage disposal. I will deal with the burnt pot tomorrow!

    Did I mention, I hate electric ranges? Whomever thought up the idea of
    an electric range out to be slaughtered and forced to eat my burned
    meatballs!

    I'm sorry about your burned meatballs, and I understand your issues.

    Did I ever mention, that I hate gas ranges and all other gas appliances?
    If my home had a gas range, I would never ever cook until it had been
    replaced with an electric range.

    There are devotees to both fuels. Live and let live.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    __________________________________________________________________
    And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Sun 01 Jan 2006 08:57:52p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Stan
    Horwitz?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    minutes later, meatballs are bubbling away, so I turned off the heat. I
    realized I was late picking up a friend from a nearby train station, so
    I asked my sister to check on the meatballs

    Sounds like your sister didn't do a very good job of checking on them.

    :-(

    Quoted message said:

    Did I ever mention, that I hate gas ranges and all other gas appliances?
    If my home had a gas range, I would never ever cook until it had been
    replaced with an electric range.

    There are devotees to both fuels. Live and let live.

    I want one of each. That's my dream kitchen. My brother has a fancy
    kitchen. It has a 5 burner gas rangetop and two wall electric ovens,
    one a convection oven.

    --
    Dan Abel
    [email hidden]
    Petaluma, California, USA

  5. On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:57:52 -0500, Stan Horwitz <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Did I mention, I hate electric ranges? Whomever thought up the idea of
    an electric range out to be slaughtered and forced to eat my burned
    meatballs!

    Sorry for your loss! I have always had electric ranges. In a perfect
    world I would choose gas hobs but electric oven.

    Kathy in NZ

  6. "Stan Horwitz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Did I mention, I hate electric ranges? Whomever thought up the idea of
    an electric range out to be slaughtered and forced to eat my burned
    meatballs!

    Agree. This house had one and I was happy to see it go after three years of
    burnt offerings and dangerous overheating that my daughter did a few times.
    Some people seem to have an un-natural fear of gas, but I've had no damage
    from gas, but many problems, including a small fire, from electric.

  7. On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:57:52 -0500, Stan Horwitz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    You never see an electric cooktop in a restaurant kitchen. They are
    always gas.

    These chefs know what's best - so there's no argument.

  8. Stan Horwitz said:

    Did I mention, I hate electric ranges? Whomever thought up the idea of
    an electric range out to be slaughtered and forced to eat my burned
    meatballs!

    I blame inanimate objects all the time, but it doesn't lessen my
    personal contribution to the fiasco.
    --

    Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

  9. Wayne Boatwright said:

    I'm sorry about your burned meatballs, and I understand your issues.

    Did I ever mention, that I hate gas ranges and all other gas appliances?
    If my home had a gas range, I would never ever cook until it had been
    replaced with an electric range.

    There are devotees to both fuels. Live and let live.

    I love electric and distrust gas too. The only thing I think gas is
    good for is great percolated coffee.
    --

    Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

  10. On Sun 01 Jan 2006 10:34:18p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:57:52 -0500, Stan Horwitz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    You never see an electric cooktop in a restaurant kitchen. They are
    always gas.

    I'm not cooking in a restaurant kitchen.

    Quoted message said:

    These chefs know what's best - so there's no argument.

    What is arguable is whether what is best in a restaurant kitchen is also best
    for a home kitchen.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    __________________________________________________________________
    And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    About a year ago, my sister and her boyfriend (now husband) moved into a
    home with an electric range in their kitchen. So, last night (New Years
    Eve), I was up until around 1:30am making food for my dad's birthday
    party, which my sister and I made at her house tonight.

    I cook with gas appliances; always have. So, the meatballs turned out
    great. I tried a few for breakfast. Delicious! This afternoon, I loaded
    the pot of meatballs into my car along with numerous other food items
    and drove to Jan and Rob's house. I got there right on time.

    I proceeded to put the pot of meatballs on my sister's range to warm
    them up. I cranked up her electric range to about 75% of maximum. A few
    minutes later, meatballs are bubbling away, so I turned off the heat. I
    realized I was late picking up a friend from a nearby train station, so
    I asked my sister to check on the meatballs, then I drove over to pick
    up my friend. I also did the same thing with the pot of homemade mac &
    cheese I made this morning.

    My sister calls me on my cell phone just as I arrived at the train
    station. Jan told me the meatballs are incinerated! I asked Jan to taste
    one. She does. Disgusting. While I was looking for my friend at the
    train station, Jan and Rob tried to wash off the meatballs, thinking it
    was the sauce that was burnt. No go. Fortunately, the train station is
    adjacent to a nice supermarket. My friend Jen and I went into the
    supermarket and I picked up three of those roasted chickens, and a roll
    of paper towels (that my sister requested).

    I got back to Jan and Rob's a few minutes later and Jan showed me that I
    must have not turned off the burner, as I thought I had. It was still
    on, but not on the high setting. I had no idea because the red color of
    the burner element went off, so I thought it was reasonably cool. If it
    was gas, I could have easily seen that the burner was not off.
    Fortunately, I did not make that mistake with the pot of mac & cheese,
    so it came out fine and it was a big hit at the party.

    My sister consoled me and she said it took her a while to get used to
    her electric range. Rob, the philosophy teacher (literally), also tried
    to console me, by explaining that the outcome was the same either way,
    in that we all got to enjoy some great food and nice company and we all
    had a nice time. But I would have much preferred not to have to spend an
    extra $20 on dinner (which my sister thanked me for), and I would have
    preferred those meatballs go into the guests' tummies rather than a
    garbage disposal. I will deal with the burnt pot tomorrow!

    Did I mention, I hate electric ranges? Whomever thought up the idea of
    an electric range out to be slaughtered and forced to eat my burned
    meatballs!

    It took me a month or so to get used to a gas stove. Ever since I'd
    gotten my own place I'd cooked on electric stoves. I never thought I'd
    appreciate them but now that I know the difference I'll take an electric
    oven and a gas cook top.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:57:52 -0500, Stan Horwitz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    You never see an electric cooktop in a restaurant kitchen. They are
    always gas.

    These chefs know what's best - so there's no argument.

    So true. As I said in a prior post I'd like a gas cook top and an
    electric oven.

    I've found that heat up time is roughly the same for electric vs. gas.
    But heat is much more consistent with the electrics I've used.

    But on that cooktop I'd want a true high BTU unit that I can rest a wok
    in.

  13. sf said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    I'm sorry about your burned meatballs, and I understand your issues.

    Did I ever mention, that I hate gas ranges and all other gas
    appliances? If my home had a gas range, I would never ever cook
    until it had been replaced with an electric range.

    There are devotees to both fuels. Live and let live.

    I love electric and distrust gas too. The only thing I think gas is
    good for is great percolated coffee.

    Sorry bud, there is no such thing as great' percolated coffee.
    And - my vote is for gas.

    Ken.

    --
    http://www.rupert.net/~solar
    Return address supplied by 'spammotel'
    http://www.spammotel.com

  14. On Sun 01 Jan 2006 11:31:46p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Ken Davey?

    Quoted message said:
    sf said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    I'm sorry about your burned meatballs, and I understand your issues.

    Did I ever mention, that I hate gas ranges and all other gas
    appliances? If my home had a gas range, I would never ever cook
    until it had been replaced with an electric range.

    There are devotees to both fuels. Live and let live.

    I love electric and distrust gas too. The only thing I think gas is
    good for is great percolated coffee.

    Sorry bud, there is no such thing as great' percolated coffee.
    And - my vote is for gas.

    Ken.

    I will gladly give you any gas I come across. <g>

    As for percolated coffee, I used to like it back in the late 1960s, but
    haven't even tasted it since then.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    __________________________________________________________________
    And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

  15. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:57:52 -0500, Stan Horwitz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    You never see an electric cooktop in a restaurant kitchen. They are
    always gas.

    These chefs know what's best - so there's no argument.

    Yeah, with professional grade equipment. Alas, I've two friends in whose
    kitchen I HATE to cook, because they have gas tops. If there's the slightest
    breeze outside you have to close the windows, because you can no longer get the
    water to boil on their stove. At another friend's place the crossdraft blows
    the gas flame out alltogether. Sheesh. Gutless. I think I've lived in _one_
    flat where I found the gas stove acceptable.

    While I don't normally suffer from Asthma, the exhaust of a (town supply)gas
    oven can do it to me. Another baaad point (and the reason why I want to keep
    that window open, please).

    About the only thing I can say in favour is that with a gas top you can still
    cook after the powerlines have been blown down by a storm.

    But of course, as most things, it's a ymmv thing 🙂

    -P.

    --
    =========================================
    firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Stan Horwitz said:

    Did I mention, I hate electric ranges? Whomever thought up the idea of
    an electric range out to be slaughtered and forced to eat my burned
    meatballs!

    (Stan's cremation story snipped)
    I've cooked with both over the years and am accustomed to electric. Is
    hers a new stove? Mine is not. I've heard that the newer ones are more
    responsive to changes than the older ones. Of course, if you don't want
    the burner on, you have to turn it off. "-) The lowest setting on my
    burners will still burn a thick mixture if I don't stir and I set a
    timer when I'm in the house to remind myself to stir. Try Dawn Power
    Dissolver on the burned pot. Amazing stuff. I wonder why.
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-22-05

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dan Abel said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Sun 01 Jan 2006 08:57:52p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Stan
    Horwitz?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    minutes later, meatballs are bubbling away, so I turned off the heat. I
    realized I was late picking up a friend from a nearby train station, so
    I asked my sister to check on the meatballs

    Sounds like your sister didn't do a very good job of checking on them.

    Since I thought the heat elements were turned off and I told her so
    before I drove over to pick up my friend, she had no reason to doubt me
    .... until the burned smell started to waft through her kitchen!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Did I ever mention, that I hate gas ranges and all other gas appliances?
    If my home had a gas range, I would never ever cook until it had been
    replaced with an electric range.

    There are devotees to both fuels. Live and let live.

    I want one of each. That's my dream kitchen. My brother has a fancy
    kitchen. It has a 5 burner gas rangetop and two wall electric ovens,
    one a convection oven.

    Does your brother actually use all that stuff?

  18. "Ken Davey" wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Sorry bud, there is no such thing as great' percolated coffee.
    And - my vote is for gas.

    Ken.

    Hey, Happy New Year, Ken!! How are you feeling?

    Dora

  19. Dan Abel said:


    I want one of each. That's my dream kitchen. My brother has a fancy
    kitchen. It has a 5 burner gas rangetop and two wall electric ovens,
    one a convection oven.

    that's a setup I'd love. I hate having the oven below the cooktop, and I
    too, hate electric ranges with the fire of a thousand nuns 🙂

    --

    saerah

    http://anisaerah.blogspot.com/

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  20. Peter Huebner said:


    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:57:52 -0500, Stan Horwitz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    You never see an electric cooktop in a restaurant kitchen. They are
    always gas.

    These chefs know what's best - so there's no argument.

    Yeah, with professional grade equipment. Alas, I've two friends in whose
    kitchen I HATE to cook, because they have gas tops. If there's the slightest
    breeze outside you have to close the windows, because you can no longer get the
    water to boil on their stove. At another friend's place the crossdraft blows
    the gas flame out alltogether.

    The only gas / propane stove I have ever used has been in our rv's
    we've had over the years. Breezes are definitely a problem. I have
    electric at home and always have. ....Sharon

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