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  1. John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":

    Neo-Nazi Moron
    User IDs: arminius, Hank
    Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or two
    of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to post
    new rants every day or so. [Hints]

    See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm

    Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?

    My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.

  2. "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":

    Neo-Nazi Moron
    User IDs: arminius, Hank
    Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or two
    of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to post
    new rants every day or so. [Hints]

    See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm

    Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?

    My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.

    For the same reason that you are a troll and Neil Fabian is a troll. If
    someone doesn;t like you, it is far easier to marginalize you by calling you
    a troll than for any real reason. It is like in the 50's when it was easy
    to accuse someone of being a commie. 'Troll' is mfw version of 'commie'

  3. On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:18:54 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":

    Neo-Nazi Moron
    User IDs: arminius, Hank
    Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or two
    of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to post
    new rants every day or so. [Hints]

    See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm

    Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?

    My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.

    For the same reason that you are a troll and Neil Fabian is a troll. If
    someone doesn;t like you, it is far easier to marginalize you by calling you
    a troll than for any real reason. It is like in the 50's when it was easy
    to accuse someone of being a commie. 'Troll' is mfw version of 'commie'

    Hey! You make a great point; so John Williams is employing McCarthyism
    to alienate those people who take the [censored] out of him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

  4. "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:18:54 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":

    Neo-Nazi Moron
    User IDs: arminius, Hank
    Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or two
    of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to post
    new rants every day or so. [Hints]

    See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm

    Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?

    My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.

    For the same reason that you are a troll and Neil Fabian is a troll. If
    someone doesn;t like you, it is far easier to marginalize you by calling
    you
    a troll than for any real reason. It is like in the 50's when it was easy
    to accuse someone of being a commie. 'Troll' is mfw version of 'commie'

    Hey! You make a great point; so John Williams is employing McCarthyism
    to alienate those people who take the [censored] out of him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Well, in your case and Neil Fabian (whether it is his *real* name, so
    what?) - both of you have a fitness background, run a fitness based
    website - give sound advice. So, what makes both of you trolls is that you
    have differences with the mfw leader. What makes Hank a troll is that the
    leader doesn;t like Hank's politics. Why else would Hank be a troll?

  5. On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:32:22 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:18:54 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":
    >
    > Neo-Nazi Moron
    > User IDs: arminius, Hank
    > Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    > [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    > IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    > Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    > supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or two
    > of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to post
    > new rants every day or so. [Hints]
    >
    > See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm
    >
    > Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?
    >
    > My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.

    For the same reason that you are a troll and Neil Fabian is a troll. If
    someone doesn;t like you, it is far easier to marginalize you by calling
    you
    a troll than for any real reason. It is like in the 50's when it was easy
    to accuse someone of being a commie. 'Troll' is mfw version of 'commie'

    Hey! You make a great point; so John Williams is employing McCarthyism
    to alienate those people who take the [censored] out of him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Well, in your case and Neil Fabian (whether it is his *real* name, so
    what?) - both of you have a fitness background, run a fitness based
    website - give sound advice. So, what makes both of you trolls is that you
    have differences with the mfw leader. What makes Hank a troll is that the
    leader doesn;t like Hank's politics. Why else would Hank be a troll?

    There is truth in what you say, and of course there was Lysis who is a
    Doctor and also very knowledgeable, and those sort of people challenge
    John Williams' sense of worth, as he is a very insecure person with
    acute paranoia.

    We took the [censored] out of him a lot (I still do) which he finds very
    intimidating and threatens his status here, so it is obvious that he
    spends a lot of time trying to discredit such people, which just makes
    them want to take the [censored] all the more.

    He is what we call in England a self-made man, who came from a very
    deprived social background and did modestly well for himself, by
    getting some sort of legal qualification from a very down market
    tertiary seat of education. He has since spent much of his time on the
    Internet developing the pseudo persona of an intellectual.

    This is why he has such a chip on his shoulder when challenged, and
    why he has kindred spirits such as Michaels (who is a thick as two
    planks) and Brinks (whose own scholarship has been the cause of
    endless amusement and who owns a 1000 square foot house >G>😉, as they
    herd together for mutual support and protection.

  6. "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:32:22 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:18:54 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >
    >"JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >> John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":
    >>
    >> Neo-Nazi Moron
    >> User IDs: arminius, Hank
    >> Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    >> [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    >> IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    >> Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    >> supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or two
    >> of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to post
    >> new rants every day or so. [Hints]
    >>
    >> See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm
    >>
    >> Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?
    >>
    >> My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.
    >
    >For the same reason that you are a troll and Neil Fabian is a troll. If
    >someone doesn;t like you, it is far easier to marginalize you by calling
    >you
    >a troll than for any real reason. It is like in the 50's when it was
    >easy
    >to accuse someone of being a commie. 'Troll' is mfw version of 'commie'
    >

    Hey! You make a great point; so John Williams is employing McCarthyism
    to alienate those people who take the [censored] out of him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Well, in your case and Neil Fabian (whether it is his *real* name, so
    what?) - both of you have a fitness background, run a fitness based
    website - give sound advice. So, what makes both of you trolls is that you
    have differences with the mfw leader. What makes Hank a troll is that the
    leader doesn;t like Hank's politics. Why else would Hank be a troll?

    There is truth in what you say, and of course there was Lysis who is a
    Doctor and also very knowledgeable, and those sort of people challenge
    John Williams' sense of worth, as he is a very insecure person with
    acute paranoia.

    We took the [censored] out of him a lot (I still do) which he finds very
    intimidating and threatens his status here, so it is obvious that he
    spends a lot of time trying to discredit such people, which just makes
    them want to take the [censored] all the more.

    He is what we call in England a self-made man, who came from a very
    deprived social background and did modestly well for himself, by
    getting some sort of legal qualification from a very down market
    tertiary seat of education. He has since spent much of his time on the
    Internet developing the pseudo persona of an intellectual.

    Yes we need to give him credit for his achievements. However he is certainly
    manipulative and arguable dishonest.

    Quoted message said:

    This is why he has such a chip on his shoulder when challenged, and
    why he has kindred spirits such as Michaels (who is a thick as two
    planks) and Brinks (whose own scholarship has been the cause of
    endless amusement and who owns a 1000 square foot house >G>😉, as they
    herd together for mutual support and protection.

    The only one of them I have time for is Cohen (and for other reasons that
    strictly because he is buying me a nice thick steak when I visit him in Sin
    City.)

  7. On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:05:45 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:32:22 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:18:54 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email hidden]...
    >>> John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":
    >>>
    >>> Neo-Nazi Moron
    >>> User IDs: arminius, Hank
    >>> Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    >>> [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    >>> IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    >>> Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    >>> supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or two
    >>> of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to post
    >>> new rants every day or so. [Hints]
    >>>
    >>> See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm
    >>>
    >>> Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?
    >>>
    >>> My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.
    >>
    >>For the same reason that you are a troll and Neil Fabian is a troll. If
    >>someone doesn;t like you, it is far easier to marginalize you by calling
    >>you
    >>a troll than for any real reason. It is like in the 50's when it was
    >>easy
    >>to accuse someone of being a commie. 'Troll' is mfw version of 'commie'
    >>
    >
    > Hey! You make a great point; so John Williams is employing McCarthyism
    > to alienate those people who take the [censored] out of him.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
    >
    > That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Well, in your case and Neil Fabian (whether it is his *real* name, so
    what?) - both of you have a fitness background, run a fitness based
    website - give sound advice. So, what makes both of you trolls is that you
    have differences with the mfw leader. What makes Hank a troll is that the
    leader doesn;t like Hank's politics. Why else would Hank be a troll?

    There is truth in what you say, and of course there was Lysis who is a
    Doctor and also very knowledgeable, and those sort of people challenge
    John Williams' sense of worth, as he is a very insecure person with
    acute paranoia.

    We took the [censored] out of him a lot (I still do) which he finds very
    intimidating and threatens his status here, so it is obvious that he
    spends a lot of time trying to discredit such people, which just makes
    them want to take the [censored] all the more.

    He is what we call in England a self-made man, who came from a very
    deprived social background and did modestly well for himself, by
    getting some sort of legal qualification from a very down market
    tertiary seat of education. He has since spent much of his time on the
    Internet developing the pseudo persona of an intellectual.

    Yes we need to give him credit for his achievements.

    However he is certainly
    manipulative and arguable dishonest.

    Quoted message said:

    This is why he has such a chip on his shoulder when challenged, and
    why he has kindred spirits such as Michaels (who is a thick as two
    planks) and Brinks (whose own scholarship has been the cause of
    endless amusement and who owns a 1000 square foot house >G>😉, as they
    herd together for mutual support and protection.

    The only one of them I have time for is Cohen (and for other reasons that
    strictly because he is buying me a nice thick steak when I visit him in Sin
    City.)

    Cohen has never got himself involved with Williams interminable
    "trolling", and is the funniest chap in the Group, although Tokyo Bob
    was also a great satirist and humorist, who is sadly missed.

    Elzi could also be quite funny while not necessarily intending to be.
    She almost had me choking with laughter when she started wriggling
    about how to guide a horse by squeezing the cheeks of your [censored]!! ;o)

    Happy days.

    If I send you an email, I'll announce it to the Group, and when I have
    sent it I'll let you know by posting "Done". Would you please
    acknowledge receipt by posting to the Group "Well done", so they don't
    know what we mean.

  8. "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:05:45 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:32:22 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >
    >"JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:18:54 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>"JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email hidden]...
    >>>> John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":
    >>>>
    >>>> Neo-Nazi Moron
    >>>> User IDs: arminius, Hank
    >>>> Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    >>>> [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    >>>> IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    >>>> Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    >>>> supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or
    >>>> two
    >>>> of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to
    >>>> post
    >>>> new rants every day or so. [Hints]
    >>>>
    >>>> See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm
    >>>>
    >>>> Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?
    >>>>
    >>>> My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.
    >>>
    >>>For the same reason that you are a troll and Neil Fabian is a troll.
    >>>If
    >>>someone doesn;t like you, it is far easier to marginalize you by
    >>>calling
    >>>you
    >>>a troll than for any real reason. It is like in the 50's when it was
    >>>easy
    >>>to accuse someone of being a commie. 'Troll' is mfw version of
    >>>'commie'
    >>>
    >>
    >> Hey! You make a great point; so John Williams is employing McCarthyism
    >> to alienate those people who take the [censored] out of him.
    >>
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
    >>
    >> That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)
    >
    >Well, in your case and Neil Fabian (whether it is his *real* name, so
    >what?) - both of you have a fitness background, run a fitness based
    >website - give sound advice. So, what makes both of you trolls is that
    >you
    >have differences with the mfw leader. What makes Hank a troll is that
    >the
    >leader doesn;t like Hank's politics. Why else would Hank be a troll?
    >

    There is truth in what you say, and of course there was Lysis who is a
    Doctor and also very knowledgeable, and those sort of people challenge
    John Williams' sense of worth, as he is a very insecure person with
    acute paranoia.

    We took the [censored] out of him a lot (I still do) which he finds very
    intimidating and threatens his status here, so it is obvious that he
    spends a lot of time trying to discredit such people, which just makes
    them want to take the [censored] all the more.

    He is what we call in England a self-made man, who came from a very
    deprived social background and did modestly well for himself, by
    getting some sort of legal qualification from a very down market
    tertiary seat of education. He has since spent much of his time on the
    Internet developing the pseudo persona of an intellectual.

    Yes we need to give him credit for his achievements.

    However he is certainly
    manipulative and arguable dishonest.

    Quoted message said:

    This is why he has such a chip on his shoulder when challenged, and
    why he has kindred spirits such as Michaels (who is a thick as two
    planks) and Brinks (whose own scholarship has been the cause of
    endless amusement and who owns a 1000 square foot house >G>😉, as they
    herd together for mutual support and protection.

    The only one of them I have time for is Cohen (and for other reasons that
    strictly because he is buying me a nice thick steak when I visit him in
    Sin
    City.)

    Cohen has never got himself involved with Williams interminable
    "trolling", and is the funniest chap in the Group, although Tokyo Bob
    was also a great satirist and humorist, who is sadly missed.

    Elzi could also be quite funny while not necessarily intending to be.
    She almost had me choking with laughter when she started wriggling
    about how to guide a horse by squeezing the cheeks of your [censored]!! ;o)

    Happy days.

    If I send you an email, I'll announce it to the Group, and when I have
    sent it I'll let you know by posting "Done". Would you please
    acknowledge receipt by posting to the Group "Well done", so they don't
    know what we mean.

    Done

  9. David said:

    The only one of them I have time for is Cohen (and for other reasons that
    strictly because he is buying me a nice thick steak when I visit him in Sin
    City.)

    Thick? We never discussed thick.

    Oh, all right. I suppose I can do thick. I suppose you want a baked
    potato with that, too?

    David
    me, not you

  10. "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:18:54 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":

    Neo-Nazi Moron
    User IDs: arminius, Hank
    Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or two
    of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to post
    new rants every day or so. [Hints]

    See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm

    Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?

    My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.

    For the same reason that you are a troll and Neil Fabian is a troll. If
    someone doesn;t like you, it is far easier to marginalize you by calling


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a troll than for any real reason. It is like in the 50's when it was


    easy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to accuse someone of being a commie. 'Troll' is mfw version of 'commie'

    Hey! You make a great point; so John Williams is employing McCarthyism
    to alienate those people who take the [censored] out of him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Be careful with that. After the fall of the Soviet Union it was learned
    that, for the most part, McCarthy was absolutely right. While his methods
    may have been hard handed, the communists were trying to subvert America.
    So, that would mean that after Usenet falls, we will discover that you
    really are a troll Chuck.

    --
    Dr. Dickie
    Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438
    Poking kooks with a pointy stick.
    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
    discoveries,
    is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'😉, but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'"
    - Isaac Asimov

  11. "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    David said:

    The only one of them I have time for is Cohen (and for other reasons that
    strictly because he is buying me a nice thick steak when I visit him in
    Sin
    City.)

    Thick? We never discussed thick.

    Oh, all right. I suppose I can do thick. I suppose you want a baked
    potato with that, too?

    David
    me, not you

    Ha ha! I had printed the photo of that juicy thick steak off Ruth Chris
    website and it's on the mirror while I'm shaving - with the baked potato
    (And my wife is tired of mopping up the puddle of 'drool' every morning!).

    Quoted message said:
  12. Dr. Dickie said:

    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Be careful with that. After the fall of the Soviet Union it was learned
    that, for the most part, McCarthy was absolutely right. While his methods
    may have been hard handed, the communists were trying to subvert America.
    So, that would mean that after Usenet falls, we will discover that you
    really are a troll Chuck.

    Yeah, it was amusing, after the fall of the Soviet Union, when the KGB
    released all kinds of old records and files, and, lo and behold, there
    WERE spies here. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg really did deserve to
    hang/fry/whatever.

    Gee, ya' think George Clooney's sequel to his [censored] ode to Murrow
    will include those little facts?

    McCarthy was a miserable douche bag. He was also right.

    David

  13. David Cohen said:
    Dr. Dickie said:

    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Be careful with that. After the fall of the Soviet Union it was learned
    that, for the most part, McCarthy was absolutely right. While his methods
    may have been hard handed, the communists were trying to subvert America.
    So, that would mean that after Usenet falls, we will discover that you
    really are a troll Chuck.

    Yeah, it was amusing, after the fall of the Soviet Union, when the KGB
    released all kinds of old records and files, and, lo and behold, there
    WERE spies here. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg really did deserve to
    hang/fry/whatever.

    Gee, ya' think George Clooney's sequel to his [censored] ode to Murrow
    will include those little facts?

    McCarthy was a miserable douche bag. He was also right.

    If you learn to take her hyperbole with a grain of salt, Ann Coulter's
    "Treason" will tell you a lot of things most people don't know about
    that era ... that includes clarifying the real story behind the "have
    you no decency" quote that warms the hearts of the American Left.

  14. JMW said:
    David Cohen said:
    Dr. Dickie said:

    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Be careful with that. After the fall of the Soviet Union it was learned
    that, for the most part, McCarthy was absolutely right. While his methods
    may have been hard handed, the communists were trying to subvert America.
    So, that would mean that after Usenet falls, we will discover that you
    really are a troll Chuck.

    Yeah, it was amusing, after the fall of the Soviet Union, when the KGB
    released all kinds of old records and files, and, lo and behold, there
    WERE spies here. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg really did deserve to
    hang/fry/whatever.

    Gee, ya' think George Clooney's sequel to his [censored] ode to Murrow
    will include those little facts?

    McCarthy was a miserable douche bag. He was also right.

    If you learn to take her hyperbole with a grain of salt, Ann Coulter's
    "Treason" will tell you a lot of things most people don't know about
    that era ... that includes clarifying the real story behind the "have
    you no decency" quote that warms the hearts of the American Left.

    Haven't read her book, but have looked at several reviews. Some
    truths in Treason, yeah, but she'll never be someone whose opinions
    and perspective I'll run with.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8793

  15. Dr. Dickie said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:18:54 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > John Williams has designated the following as a "troll":
    >
    > Neo-Nazi Moron
    > User IDs: arminius, Hank
    > Email Addresses: [email hidden], richard
    > [email hidden], [email hidden], [email hidden]
    > IP Addresses: variable (NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.42.xx.[censored])
    > Posting Characteristics: Cross-posts long quotes from white
    > supremacist rants originating in other forums, then adds a line or two
    > of his approval; rarely debates any issues, preferring instead to post
    > new rants every day or so. [Hints]
    >
    > See: http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm
    >
    > Who is this person and why is he a "troll" John Williams?
    >
    > My thanks in anticipation of your polite reply.

    For the same reason that you are a troll and Neil Fabian is a troll. If
    someone doesn;t like you, it is far easier to marginalize you by calling


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a troll than for any real reason. It is like in the 50's when it was


    easy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to accuse someone of being a commie. 'Troll' is mfw version of 'commie'

    Hey! You make a great point; so John Williams is employing McCarthyism
    to alienate those people who take the [censored] out of him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Be careful with that. After the fall of the Soviet Union it was learned
    that, for the most part, McCarthy was absolutely right. While his methods
    may have been hard handed, the communists were trying to subvert America.
    So, that would mean that after Usenet falls, we will discover that you
    really are a troll Chuck.

    Perish the thought Doctor! ;o)

  16. Quoted message said:
    JMW said:
    David Cohen said:

    Dr. Dickie wrote:
    > "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > > That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)
    >
    > Be careful with that. After the fall of the Soviet Union it was learned
    > that, for the most part, McCarthy was absolutely right. While his methods
    > may have been hard handed, the communists were trying to subvert America.
    > So, that would mean that after Usenet falls, we will discover that you
    > really are a troll Chuck.

    Yeah, it was amusing, after the fall of the Soviet Union, when the KGB
    released all kinds of old records and files, and, lo and behold, there
    WERE spies here. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg really did deserve to
    hang/fry/whatever.

    Gee, ya' think George Clooney's sequel to his [censored] ode to Murrow
    will include those little facts?

    McCarthy was a miserable douche bag. He was also right.

    If you learn to take her hyperbole with a grain of salt, Ann Coulter's
    "Treason" will tell you a lot of things most people don't know about
    that era ... that includes clarifying the real story behind the "have
    you no decency" quote that warms the hearts of the American Left.

    Haven't read her book, but have looked at several reviews. Some
    truths in Treason, yeah, but she'll never be someone whose opinions
    and perspective I'll run with.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8793

    That article pretty much says what I said, yes? And it, too, makes
    mention of the real story behind the "have you no sense of decency"
    quote:

    "On the other hand, there are many apercus in this book that are
    memorable. It was only in reading Coulter's text that I realized what
    a fraud Joseph Welch -- the hero of all anti-McCarthy histories -
    was, and how his moment of glory in 'exposing' McCarthy was a
    hypocritical sham."

  17. JMW said:
    Quoted message said:
    JMW said:

    David Cohen wrote:
    > Dr. Dickie wrote:
    > > "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > > > That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)
    > >
    > > Be careful with that. After the fall of the Soviet Union it was learned
    > > that, for the most part, McCarthy was absolutely right. While his methods
    > > may have been hard handed, the communists were trying to subvert America.
    > > So, that would mean that after Usenet falls, we will discover that you
    > > really are a troll Chuck.
    >
    > Yeah, it was amusing, after the fall of the Soviet Union, when the KGB
    > released all kinds of old records and files, and, lo and behold, there
    > WERE spies here. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg really did deserve to
    > hang/fry/whatever.
    >
    > Gee, ya' think George Clooney's sequel to his [censored] ode to Murrow
    > will include those little facts?
    >
    > McCarthy was a miserable douche bag. He was also right.

    If you learn to take her hyperbole with a grain of salt, Ann Coulter's
    "Treason" will tell you a lot of things most people don't know about
    that era ... that includes clarifying the real story behind the "have
    you no decency" quote that warms the hearts of the American Left.

    Haven't read her book, but have looked at several reviews. Some
    truths in Treason, yeah, but she'll never be someone whose opinions
    and perspective I'll run with.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8793

    That article pretty much says what I said, yes?

    Yes

    Quoted message said:

    And it, too, makes
    mention of the real story behind the "have you no sense of decency"
    quote:

    "On the other hand, there are many apercus in this book that are
    memorable. It was only in reading Coulter's text that I realized what
    a fraud Joseph Welch -- the hero of all anti-McCarthy histories -
    was, and how his moment of glory in 'exposing' McCarthy was a
    hypocritical sham."

    Ms. Coulter is not someone whose opinions or perspective I'll ever
    adopt wholesale. This article sheds light on why I think this way.

  18. David said:

    <snip> his *real* name<snip>

    Schuh? Is that you impersonating David!?!

    What *IS* his /real/ name!?

    <g>

    --

  19. "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Dr. Dickie said:

    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Be careful with that. After the fall of the Soviet Union it was learned
    that, for the most part, McCarthy was absolutely right. While his
    methods
    may have been hard handed, the communists were trying to subvert America.
    So, that would mean that after Usenet falls, we will discover that you
    really are a troll Chuck.

    Yeah, it was amusing, after the fall of the Soviet Union, when the KGB
    released all kinds of old records and files, and, lo and behold, there
    WERE spies here. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg really did deserve to
    hang/fry/whatever.


    Absolutely. But there is a world of difference between spying for an enemy
    (e.g. Pollard) and flirting with foreign ideologies which threaten The
    American Way of Life.

  20. ATP* said:

    "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Dr. Dickie said:

    "JRH" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > That's what the M stands for: John McCarthy Williams! ;o)

    Be careful with that. After the fall of the Soviet Union it was learned
    that, for the most part, McCarthy was absolutely right. While his
    methods
    may have been hard handed, the communists were trying to subvert America.
    So, that would mean that after Usenet falls, we will discover that you
    really are a troll Chuck.

    Yeah, it was amusing, after the fall of the Soviet Union, when the KGB
    released all kinds of old records and files, and, lo and behold, there
    WERE spies here. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg really did deserve to
    hang/fry/whatever.


    Absolutely. But there is a world of difference between spying for an enemy
    (e.g. Pollard) and flirting with foreign ideologies which threaten The
    American Way of Life.

    Hmmm...Pollard spied for an enemy, huh? Tried to sneak that in?

    You're correct in the difference. But, most of what McCarthy was
    warning about were real enemies. That he was a miserable douche bag
    lead him to take it all a bit too far. It doesn't change the underlying
    correctness of his warnings. Or his vindication by the KGB's records.

    David

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