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  1. The Bubbo said:

    After much finagling and sibling rivalry I managed to inherit my mother's
    Wedgwood china (I think my argument that my mom gave my sister the Saab was
    pretty much the end of the debate). I've had this china since May and Friday
    night was the first time I'd really gotten to use it.

    I had a complete set of Wedgwood before, but my ex got that in the Great
    Division of Property (I also lost my KA food processor, but I got the buffet
    crammed full of serving dishes).

    After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread plate
    and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
    thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.

    Bummer. There is nothing quite like an inheritance to bring out the worst in
    siblings. I have seen several families fall apart from fights over their
    parents' estates. It's a damned shame. Even the most seemingly fair minded
    people sometimes have distorted versions of fairness.

    My wife and sister were executors of their father's will. The father had cut the
    brother out of his will after an argument with him, but he later relented and
    gave him a 20% share with 405 going to each of the other two. When they split
    things up they gave him an equal share. They figured that he would have been
    upset if he had been short changed and that family harmony was more important
    than the money.

    A friend of mine was executor of his father's will and one of the assets was a
    building that had housed a donut shop which happened to be in his city. His
    brother and two sisters are scattered across the country. He had the property
    evaluated and arranged the financing to buy it off the estate. The day before the
    deal went through his sister called and said that she and the other brother had
    discussed it and thought the offer was to low. He told them it wasn't an offer,
    that is it. Take it or leave it. Now they are going to have to wait for the
    property to be sold, perhaps at a lower price. He is very comfortably retired at
    48. He doesn't need the money, but the rest of them do.

  2. Jani said:

    Personally, I gave up trying to keep a complete set of *anything* years ago.
    I went for colour-coded instead, and now I pick up half-sets, individual
    plates, serving dishes and so on from all sorts of places (charity shops are
    a treasure-trove, especially for antiques) - nothing actually matches, but
    because it's all in the same shades (blue, blue and green, or blue and
    yellow) it .. harmonises, I suppose you'd say. And since they're not full
    sets in the first place, breakages are not so agonising.

    I have never been a fan of really fancy dishes, especially the sort that are
    easily broken and difficult to replace. I opted for nice every day dishes that
    are nice for us and nothing to be embarrassed about using for special company.
    When we were first married we went with A Franciscan pattern. A few pieces got
    broken, and when I went to replace them I found that the pattern had been
    discontinued. When we got down to the point where we needed a new set, I chose
    a Johnson Bros. pattern that had been around for years. Damned if that pattern
    suddenly got pulled. So when we ran low on cups and saucers it was time to
    look for another pattern. We really liked another Johnson Bros. pattern and
    bought 8 settings of it. We broke two plates within the first 6 months so I
    headed back to the store to order replacements. Son of a gun, that pattern had
    been discontinued. Thank goodness there is a place not too far from here were
    there is a good stock of some of the discontinued patterns and we got the
    replacements. We thought that we were out of luck, but my wife discovered that
    there were bread and butter plates available in that pattern, which was odd,
    because when we originally bought the place settings there were no bread and
    butter plates in that pattern. My wife ordered a bunch of them for herself for
    Christmas.

  3. Ken said:
    Quoted message said:

    My wife and sister were executors of their father's will. The father had cut the
    brother out of his will after an argument with him, but he later relented and
    gave him a 20% share with 405 going to each of the other two. When they split
    things up they gave him an equal share. They figured that he would have been
    upset if he had been short changed and that family harmony was more important
    than the money.

    Dave,

    I would love to shake your wife's hand, and I certainly hope you know
    what a lucky guy you are. Count your lucky stars, time and time again.

    She is a dear woman, as is her sister, who certainly could have used the extra money.

  4. After much finagling and sibling rivalry I managed to inherit my mother's
    Wedgwood china (I think my argument that my mom gave my sister the Saab was
    pretty much the end of the debate). I've had this china since May and Friday
    night was the first time I'd really gotten to use it.

    I had a complete set of Wedgwood before, but my ex got that in the Great
    Division of Property (I also lost my KA food processor, but I got the buffet
    crammed full of serving dishes).

    After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread plate
    and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
    thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.

    Dammit.

    --
    ..:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

  5. Dave Smith said:


    Bummer. There is nothing quite like an inheritance to bring out the worst


    in

    Quoted message said:

    siblings. I have seen several families fall apart from fights over their
    parents' estates. It's a damned shame. Even the most seemingly fair minded
    people sometimes have distorted versions of fairness.

    My wife and sister were executors of their father's will. The father had cut


    the

    Quoted message said:

    brother out of his will after an argument with him, but he later relented


    and

    Quoted message said:

    gave him a 20% share with 405 going to each of the other two. When they


    split

    Quoted message said:

    things up they gave him an equal share. They figured that he would have been
    upset if he had been short changed and that family harmony was more


    important

    Quoted message said:

    than the money.

    A friend of mine was executor of his father's will and one of the assets was


    a

    Quoted message said:

    building that had housed a donut shop which happened to be in his city. His
    brother and two sisters are scattered across the country. He had the


    property

    Quoted message said:

    evaluated and arranged the financing to buy it off the estate. The day


    before the

    Quoted message said:

    deal went through his sister called and said that she and the other brother


    had

    Quoted message said:

    discussed it and thought the offer was to low. He told them it wasn't an


    offer,

    Quoted message said:

    that is it. Take it or leave it. Now they are going to have to wait for the
    property to be sold, perhaps at a lower price. He is very comfortably


    retired at

    Quoted message said:

    48. He doesn't need the money, but the rest of them do.

    Oh, I don't want to give the wrong impression, the 'battle for the china' was
    immensely good natured. Also, my mom is very much (thankfully) alive! A few
    years after my parents divorced my mom moved to Iowa and then Texas and wanted
    to unload excess items, i got the furniture, my sister got the Saab and the
    china.

    Years later, my sister, realizing she does not really cook or entertain or
    anything like that, gave me the china!

    --
    ..:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Bubbo said:

    After much finagling and sibling rivalry I managed to inherit my mother's
    Wedgwood china (I think my argument that my mom gave my sister the Saab was
    pretty much the end of the debate). I've had this china since May and Friday
    night was the first time I'd really gotten to use it.

    I had a complete set of Wedgwood before, but my ex got that in the Great
    Division of Property (I also lost my KA food processor, but I got the buffet
    crammed full of serving dishes).

    After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread plate
    and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
    thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.

    Dammit.

    Right. The bum. Accidents happen,
    But, frankly, that seems reasonably priced to me.
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-22-05

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Bubbo said:

    Years later, my sister, realizing she does not really cook or entertain or
    anything like that, gave me the china!

    Ask David to replace the broken plate for your New Year's gift. "-)
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-22-05

  8. Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Bubbo said:

    After much finagling and sibling rivalry I managed to inherit my mother's
    Wedgwood china (I think my argument that my mom gave my sister the Saab was
    pretty much the end of the debate). I've had this china since May and


    Friday

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    night was the first time I'd really gotten to use it.

    I had a complete set of Wedgwood before, but my ex got that in the Great
    Division of Property (I also lost my KA food processor, but I got the


    buffet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    crammed full of serving dishes).

    After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread


    plate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
    thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.

    Dammit.

    Right. The bum. Accidents happen,
    But, frankly, that seems reasonably priced to me.

    It's the price to pay to have it. More researched turned out that Marshall
    Fields has it for $16.50. They also have soup plates which might be worth
    investing in since i have none.

    --
    ..:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

  9. The Bubbo said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Bubbo said:

    After much finagling and sibling rivalry I managed to inherit my mother's
    Wedgwood china (I think my argument that my mom gave my sister the Saab was
    pretty much the end of the debate). I've had this china since May and

    Friday

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    night was the first time I'd really gotten to use it.

    I had a complete set of Wedgwood before, but my ex got that in the Great
    Division of Property (I also lost my KA food processor, but I got the

    buffet

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    crammed full of serving dishes).

    After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread

    plate

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
    thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.

    Dammit.

    Right. The bum. Accidents happen,
    But, frankly, that seems reasonably priced to me.

    It's the price to pay to have it. More researched turned out that Marshall
    Fields has it for $16.50. They also have soup plates which might be worth
    investing in since i have none.

    It sounds like this china is nothing but a source of worry for you. Why
    bother - to impress people? It is meant to be used, and therefore will
    get broken. Enjoy it and accept the inevitable breakage - or put it on
    display where it is safe.

    Peter

  10. P.Aitken said:

    It sounds like this china is nothing but a source of worry for you. Why
    bother - to impress people? It is meant to be used, and therefore will
    get broken. Enjoy it and accept the inevitable breakage - or put it on
    display where it is safe.

    Peter

    welcome to the wonderful world that is me where I worry about everything and
    everything is a source of anxiety.

    I like the china, I like to eat off it and I like servinbg on it. I think it's
    pretty. I know things will break but I'd like to keep the 8 place settings
    that I have complete.

    --
    ..:Heather:.
    www.velvet-c.com
    Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

  11. P.Aitken said:

    It sounds like this china is nothing but a source of worry for you. Why
    bother - to impress people? It is meant to be used, and therefore will
    get broken. Enjoy it and accept the inevitable breakage - or put it on
    display where it is safe.

    My thought exactly.

    I used my Noritake (white-on-white, trimmed in 24K gold) as an
    everyday plate, because (a) things break, and that's part of their
    beauty, and (b) I'm worth my finest china.

    serene

  12. Quoted message said:

    After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread
    plate
    and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
    thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.

    All the dishes I use are antiques and give me a great pleasure to use them.
    Yes, they get broken on occasion. I've found ebay and Replacements.com
    great sources to pick things up. If it's a piece you can wait until
    Replacements has a sale or find an auction on ebay that no one seems
    interested in you can replace some things cheaper.

    Lynne

  13. "The Bubbo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    P.Aitken said:

    It sounds like this china is nothing but a source of worry for you. Why
    bother - to impress people? It is meant to be used, and therefore will
    get broken. Enjoy it and accept the inevitable breakage - or put it on
    display where it is safe.

    Peter

    welcome to the wonderful world that is me where I worry about everything
    and
    everything is a source of anxiety.

    I like the china, I like to eat off it and I like servinbg on it. I think
    it's
    pretty. I know things will break but I'd like to keep the 8 place settings
    that I have complete.

    Back in the dark ages when I was a student, I did a stint as au pair for a
    family in Switzerland, who had Wedgwood plates for everyday use. They also
    had two small children, as well as a dishwasher apparently constructed to
    take a bite out of everything it washed. Accidents waiting to happen,
    basically 🙁

    Use your china, if you don't want it to be display-only, but don't get too
    wound up when you lose a piece. Replacements exist, and it was meant to be
    used, not put in a museum, after all 🙂

    Personally, I gave up trying to keep a complete set of *anything* years ago.
    I went for colour-coded instead, and now I pick up half-sets, individual
    plates, serving dishes and so on from all sorts of places (charity shops are
    a treasure-trove, especially for antiques) - nothing actually matches, but
    because it's all in the same shades (blue, blue and green, or blue and
    yellow) it .. harmonises, I suppose you'd say. And since they're not full
    sets in the first place, breakages are not so agonising.

    Jani

  14. The Bubbo said:

    After much finagling and sibling rivalry I managed to inherit my mother's
    Wedgwood china (I think my argument that my mom gave my sister the Saab was
    pretty much the end of the debate). I've had this china since May and Friday
    night was the first time I'd really gotten to use it.

    I had a complete set of Wedgwood before, but my ex got that in the Great
    Division of Property (I also lost my KA food processor, but I got the buffet
    crammed full of serving dishes).

    After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread plate
    and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
    thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.

    Dammit.

    Think of it as a nice legacy and replace the plate. Be thankful that
    it's still available.

    gloria p

  15. "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    The Bubbo said:

    After much finagling and sibling rivalry I managed to inherit my mother's
    Wedgwood china (I think my argument that my mom gave my sister the Saab
    was
    pretty much the end of the debate). I've had this china since May and
    Friday
    night was the first time I'd really gotten to use it.

    I had a complete set of Wedgwood before, but my ex got that in the Great
    Division of Property (I also lost my KA food processor, but I got the
    buffet
    crammed full of serving dishes).

    After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread
    plate
    and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
    thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.



    You can be thankful that your set was complete; I know you are. I inherited
    a set of china from my in-laws after m-i-l died. When DH was cleaning out
    the house and adjoining structures, he found in a garage under an oil-soaked
    rag with a heavy tool on top of it, belonging to the set, a soup Tureen with
    Lid which I can replace at Replacements.com for $429.95. Of course, I will
    never replace it. I'm not down grading your loss; I know the feeling,
    having dropped and broken in a blink-of-an-eye, a cup to a 8-piece set of
    china; the cup costing around $50 if it is the correct one.
    But if you are going to replace it, do it now, or it will be lost forever.
    I'm glad you were able to use your lovely set with a holiday dinner. What
    happiness!

    Afterthought:
    My ex-husband 40 years ago got in the property settlement a solid cherry
    buffet that I had chosen. His next (3rd) wife used it, I saw it and still
    coveted it. He died while he was married to his 4th wife. I was so crass as
    to call her and ask her if I could have it/buy it, whatever. She told me to
    get lost -- tee hee -- ha ha! I'm still thinking about that beautiful
    buffet - there'll never be another one like it. Maybe when I get to the
    pearly gates, it'll be there in my furnished apartment.
    Dee Dee

  16. "serene" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    P.Aitken said:

    It sounds like this china is nothing but a source of worry for you. Why
    bother - to impress people? It is meant to be used, and therefore will
    get broken. Enjoy it and accept the inevitable breakage - or put it on
    display where it is safe.

    My thought exactly.

    I used my Noritake (white-on-white, trimmed in 24K gold) as an
    everyday plate, because (a) things break, and that's part of their
    beauty, and (b) I'm worth my finest china.

    serene

    I believe this is the classic Noritake one sees and is quite elegant. Does
    it ever go in the dishwasher -- that is, if one is at your home? I have a
    few plates that are even too large for my dishwasher, so washing plates is
    not my favorite pasttime. Not that I don't do it often though; just
    wondering about these particular plates.
    My own china has gold rims and I don't put it in the dishwasher, so I don't
    use it much; I'd like to, but I don't like the looks of faded gold on plates
    because it reminds me of used restaurant china (which I don't care for).
    Funny, though I have a small set of Chinese plates and bowls (made in Japan)
    I bought from a restaurant outlet (you know, with the dragons, etc.) and
    I've used them for years in the dishwasher and the gold rim is still there,
    pretty darned good after many years in the dishwasher.
    Yes, you are indeed worth the very finest of china; that's a given.
    Dee Dee

  17. Quoted message said:

    My wife and sister were executors of their father's will. The father had cut the
    brother out of his will after an argument with him, but he later relented and
    gave him a 20% share with 405 going to each of the other two. When they split
    things up they gave him an equal share. They figured that he would have been
    upset if he had been short changed and that family harmony was more important
    than the money.

    Dave,

    I would love to shake your wife's hand, and I certainly hope you know
    what a lucky guy you are. Count your lucky stars, time and time again.

    Ken

  18. Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> looking for
    trouble wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Bubbo said:

    Years later, my sister, realizing she does not really cook or
    entertain or anything like that, gave me the china!

    Ask David to replace the broken plate for your New Year's gift. "-)

    Steven got Wedgewood after his mother died some 20 years ago. I had a gob
    of Waterford when Steven and I got together. We seldom use the stuff and I
    hate like hell handwashing dishes. His sister wanted the china but she
    relented when he gave her the washer, dryer and deep freeze. His mother
    entertained a lot for their businesses. Everything else was all spelled
    out and put in a trust just to avoid a stressful situation. Steven adored
    his mother. I wish I was able to know her. After his mother died,
    Steven's father eventually remarried. It took his father a long time to
    accept me but we got to be really close. When he died, the stepmother has
    their condo for life and she gets paid a marital stipend. Eventually
    Steven had to sell the plumbing companies neither he or the sister had any
    interest in it although the business was very successful. The sale of the
    company was the huge uproar. Stepmother wanted at least a third of the
    business, sister said she should get nothing. Steven got so tired of their
    fighting he just let a judge decide. It was really sticky for a couple of
    years. Stepmother settled for 1/4 of the proceeds for her life at which
    point, if anything is left, it is split between Steven and sister. Gawd,
    for being so tired I'm yappy tonight.

    Michael
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    final say on what is, or is not, posted.
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  19. The Bubbo said:


    welcome to the wonderful world that is me where I worry about everything and
    everything is a source of anxiety.

    I like the china, I like to eat off it and I like servinbg on it. I think it's
    pretty. I know things will break but I'd like to keep the 8 place settings
    that I have complete.

    If it can be easily replaced at Marshall Fields, then it's not a
    problem. Real problems arise when the pattern is no longer
    manufactured. Accidents happen and that's why I buy 12 instead of 8.
    --

    Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

  20. serene said:
    P.Aitken said:

    It sounds like this china is nothing but a source of worry for you. Why
    bother - to impress people? It is meant to be used, and therefore will
    get broken. Enjoy it and accept the inevitable breakage - or put it on
    display where it is safe.

    My thought exactly.

    I used my Noritake (white-on-white, trimmed in 24K gold) as an
    everyday plate, because (a) things break, and that's part of their
    beauty, and (b) I'm worth my finest china.


    I have everyday china and special occasion china. The every day is
    stuff I can replace easily if a piece is broken. Replacing my special
    occasion china requires research and plenty of $$, so I'm very careful
    with it now, especially after replacing a piece with another one that
    was the right pattern, but didn't have the right feel, weight,
    thickness... it was noticeably "different".

    Oh, well. Life went on anyway.
    --

    Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

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