broken china

The Bubbo said:

After much finagling and sibling rivalry I managed to inherit my mother's
Wedgwood china (I think my argument that my mom gave my sister the Saab was
pretty much the end of the debate). I've had this china since May and Friday
night was the first time I'd really gotten to use it.

I had a complete set of Wedgwood before, but my ex got that in the Great
Division of Property (I also lost my KA food processor, but I got the buffet
crammed full of serving dishes).

After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread plate
and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.

My Mom's china was an obscure 1950's Royal Doulton pattern that (even
in my years as an antiques dealer) I've never seen anywhere else. When
she died, my Dad remarried & I saw precious little of the china, but
always remembered it fondly. After my Dad & Stepmother died a few
years ago their daughters divided their estate. I was delighted to walk
away with the remnants of Mom's Royal Doulton service for 8. Over the
years there'd been significant breakage and I was down to a complete
service for 5. After suffering severe sticker shock at the
Replacements website, I tried ebay & w/in a month scored every piece I
needed to restore the service to its full glory...for a tenth of the
cost at Replacements. If I were you I'd give ebay a whirl.

Nancy T

serene said:

I used my Noritake (white-on-white, trimmed in 24K gold) as an
everyday plate, because (a) things break, and that's part of their
beauty, and (b) I'm worth my finest china.

For some reason I was lucky enough to end up with my mother's
Noritake china (it says "made in occupied Japan"; no idea if
the gold trim is 24K or not). We don't use it everyday, not so
much that it is too delicate/precious, but that it's wrong-sized;
the soup dishes are too small for eating a bowl of chili out of,
the dinner plates are on the small side too -- you could never
eat a leek off of one, it would flop over the edges. I like
to use 12" presentation plates as dinner plates (they mostly
came from Crate and Barrel, but if you want some nice ones,
go to Fish Eddy's), and we have outsized stoneware soup bowls
made by a local artisan. (He just offered to manufacture some
more of the bowls for us, as a special as he has sinced moved
into figurines.) But we do use the china soup bowls and dinner
plates for some dinners, and the smaller china salad and dessert
plates for some appetizers.

There were some china pieces missing to begin with, and a
few more have broken under our custody, but I have no plans
to replace them just for completion.

Steve

In article <[email hidden]>,

The Bubbo said:

After the night of the first real use, David accidentally drops a bread plate
and shatters it. I'm not mad, i know it was an accident, but that damned
thing, that small 6 inch plate, costs $23 plus shipping.

Many years ago, several of us went to somebody's house. Everything was
perfect. Her nails were perfect, the house was perfect, her makeup was
perfect and her kids were perfect. I felt sorry for her kids. That's
not fun. She served us some little food item on little plates. She
made a big point about how the plates were rimmed in platinum and cost
US$90.00 each. I couldn't wait to finish the food and give the plate
back.

--
Dan Abel
[email hidden]
Petaluma, California, USA

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The Bubbo said:

P.Aitken said:

It sounds like this china is nothing but a source of worry for you. Why
bother - to impress people? It is meant to be used, and therefore will
get broken. Enjoy it and accept the inevitable breakage - or put it on
display where it is safe.

Peter

welcome to the wonderful world that is me where I worry about everything and
everything is a source of anxiety.

I like the china, I like to eat off it and I like servinbg on it. I think it's
pretty. I know things will break but I'd like to keep the 8 place settings
that I have complete.

And don't let anyone try to convince you that there's anything wrong
with that plan, Kiddo. Sure, they break if not handled carefully. And
those "special occasion only" things are often what 'make' the memory.
Nice to recall when you're older. A friend has her mom's Haviland china
- it is very, very beautiful - and she uses it for Christmas, I think.
And she washes it by hand - alone. Puts a towel at the bottom of the
sink. And you can bet that she remembers her mom and those special
times when she does. A person could do worse.

While you're at it (buying the replacement), get two and save on the
shipping and you'll be even next time one breaks. I have Block
Poinsettia, <http://tinyurl.com/8uymx> service for 12 or 16 (I can't
remember) and a spare cup and saucer and dinner plate for just such an
occurrence and for when the stuff is tough to find and acquire without a
loan.

And may all your memories of its use be joyous ones.
--
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-22-05

In article <[email hidden]>,

ntantiques said:

Over the years there'd been significant breakage and I was down to a
complete service for 5. After suffering severe sticker shock at the
Replacements website, I tried ebay & w/in a month scored every piece
I needed to restore the service to its full glory...for a tenth of
the cost at Replacements.

Nancy T

Yeay, Nancy!! I've never met a dish I didn't like. "-)
--
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-22-05

"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

The Bubbo said:

P.Aitken said:

It sounds like this china is nothing but a source of worry for you. Why
bother - to impress people? It is meant to be used, and therefore will
get broken. Enjoy it and accept the inevitable breakage - or put it on
display where it is safe.

Peter

welcome to the wonderful world that is me where I worry about everything
and
everything is a source of anxiety.

I like the china, I like to eat off it and I like servinbg on it. I think
it's
pretty. I know things will break but I'd like to keep the 8 place
settings
that I have complete.

And don't let anyone try to convince you that there's anything wrong
with that plan, Kiddo. Sure, they break if not handled carefully. And
those "special occasion only" things are often what 'make' the memory.
Nice to recall when you're older. A friend has her mom's Haviland china
- it is very, very beautiful - and she uses it for Christmas, I think.
And she washes it by hand - alone. Puts a towel at the bottom of the
sink. And you can bet that she remembers her mom and those special
times when she does. A person could do worse.

Haviland is the old china I have inherited that I said the replacement for
the tureen was $$$. It is old, thin and fragile. And it has been used by
the family, well used. But I am very careful of it.
I remember when I was a teen that we visited a home for dinner, the likes of
which I'd never seen before, and they insisted that I come in to dry the
crystal. I don't know what they were thinking. They told me to be careful,
but I didn't even know what crystal was, but from their admonitions, I knew
it was dear.
Dee Dee

On Mon 26 Dec 2005 08:36:43a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Melba's
Jammin'?

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

The Bubbo said:

P.Aitken said:

It sounds like this china is nothing but a source of worry for you.
Why bother - to impress people? It is meant to be used, and therefore
will get broken. Enjoy it and accept the inevitable breakage - or put
it on display where it is safe.

Peter

welcome to the wonderful world that is me where I worry about
everything and everything is a source of anxiety.

I like the china, I like to eat off it and I like servinbg on it. I
think it's pretty. I know things will break but I'd like to keep the 8
place settings that I have complete.

And don't let anyone try to convince you that there's anything wrong
with that plan, Kiddo. Sure, they break if not handled carefully. And
those "special occasion only" things are often what 'make' the memory.
Nice to recall when you're older. A friend has her mom's Haviland china
- it is very, very beautiful - and she uses it for Christmas, I think.
And she washes it by hand - alone. Puts a towel at the bottom of the
sink. And you can bet that she remembers her mom and those special
times when she does. A person could do worse.

While you're at it (buying the replacement), get two and save on the
shipping and you'll be even next time one breaks. I have Block
Poinsettia, <http://tinyurl.com/8uymx> service for 12 or 16 (I can't
remember) and a spare cup and saucer and dinner plate for just such an
occurrence and for when the stuff is tough to find and acquire without a
loan.

And may all your memories of its use be joyous ones.

I totally agree, Barb. I have two sets of good china, an extensive set of
Wedgewood that I collected while in my twenties, and a set of Royal Jackson
that I inherited from my mother.

We use the Wedgewood at least once a month. I would use it daily if it
weren't for the raised border that requires storing with separators to
prevent damage to the border. However, it does go into the dishwasher.

We only use the Royal Jackson a couple of times a year because it requires
hand-washing due to the gold rim that predates a glaze fired over the gold.
It's particularly precious to me because I remember my parents inheriting
it when I was 5 years old.

I have only broken one piece of Wedgewood over the years and replaced it
promptly. There are 16 place settings of the Royal Jackson and a few
dessert plates were broken all at once many years ago. I've never replaced
them because I still have 11 or 12 and would never use more than that.

The memories count big time!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
__________________________________________________________________
And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

Melba's Jammin said:

Quoted message said:

I like the china, I like to eat off it and I like servinbg on it. I think

it's

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

pretty. I know things will break but I'd like to keep the 8 place settings
that I have complete.

And don't let anyone try to convince you that there's anything wrong
with that plan, Kiddo. Sure, they break if not handled carefully. And
those "special occasion only" things are often what 'make' the memory.
Nice to recall when you're older. A friend has her mom's Haviland china
- it is very, very beautiful - and she uses it for Christmas, I think.
And she washes it by hand - alone. Puts a towel at the bottom of the
sink. And you can bet that she remembers her mom and those special
times when she does. A person could do worse.

While you're at it (buying the replacement), get two and save on the
shipping and you'll be even next time one breaks. I have Block
Poinsettia, <http://tinyurl.com/8uymx> service for 12 or 16 (I can't
remember) and a spare cup and saucer and dinner plate for just such an
occurrence and for when the stuff is tough to find and acquire without a
loan.

And may all your memories of its use be joyous ones.

I have this other set of china that I know almost nothign about. My ex-MIL
gave it to me, it had been a grandmother's at some point. She said it was
'soapbox china', given away piece by piece in boxes of detergent IIRC. It's
white with a light green, almost Grecian pattern. The funny thing about it is
some of it's Noritake, some say H&Co Selb Bavaria, some say H&Co Magjya. It's
a real mix of manufacturers but the pattern is the same. I'd like to get more
just to fill out the collection but I can't even figure out what to search
for!

Also, I think it made my mom incredibly happy to have me serving dinner on her
china. I even made after-dinner coffee and served it in the cups with saucers,
filled the sugar and creamer, and the coffee pot.

When I'm alone I do fill the teapot and get out a cup and saucer and sit
quietly, reading and remembering when I would have a cold or ear infectin and
my mom would make me a pot of tea and serve it to me in the china to make me
feel better.

--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

In article <[email hidden]>,

The Bubbo said:

Melba's Jammin said:

Quoted message said:

I like the china, I like to eat off it and I like servinbg on it. I think

it's

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

pretty. I know things will break but I'd like to keep the 8 place settings
that I have complete.

And don't let anyone try to convince you that there's anything wrong
with that plan, Kiddo. Sure, they break if not handled carefully. And
those "special occasion only" things are often what 'make' the memory.
Nice to recall when you're older. A friend has her mom's Haviland china
- it is very, very beautiful - and she uses it for Christmas, I think.
And she washes it by hand - alone. Puts a towel at the bottom of the
sink. And you can bet that she remembers her mom and those special
times when she does. A person could do worse.

While you're at it (buying the replacement), get two and save on the
shipping and you'll be even next time one breaks. I have Block
Poinsettia, <http://tinyurl.com/8uymx> service for 12 or 16 (I can't
remember) and a spare cup and saucer and dinner plate for just such an
occurrence and for when the stuff is tough to find and acquire without a
loan.

And may all your memories of its use be joyous ones.

I have this other set of china that I know almost nothign about. My ex-MIL
gave it to me, it had been a grandmother's at some point. She said it was
'soapbox china', given away piece by piece in boxes of detergent IIRC. It's
white with a light green, almost Grecian pattern. The funny thing about it is
some of it's Noritake, some say H&Co Selb Bavaria, some say H&Co Magjya. It's
a real mix of manufacturers but the pattern is the same. I'd like to get more
just to fill out the collection but I can't even figure out what to search
for!

Also, I think it made my mom incredibly happy to have me serving dinner on her
china. I even made after-dinner coffee and served it in the cups with saucers,
filled the sugar and creamer, and the coffee pot.

When I'm alone I do fill the teapot and get out a cup and saucer and sit
quietly, reading and remembering when I would have a cold or ear infectin and
my mom would make me a pot of tea and serve it to me in the china to make me
feel better.

There you go, Toots! Memories give meaning to Stuff.
There's a china replacement place in Excelsior. We could go there, too,
for a look and a holler. China Replacements? Bet you could find it
with a search or four.
--
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-22-05

Steve Pope said:

There were some china pieces missing to begin with, and a
few more have broken under our custody, but I have no plans
to replace them just for completion.

I'm not a complete set person myself. I sold the teacups to my
everyday china at a garage sale for 50¢ each - so I made someone very
happy. I have two sets of fine china dinner plates only and one full
set of china, right down to bullion cups... remember those?
Obviously, the only china I've bought is the everyday stuff. I love
finding dessert plates in antique stores. Once time, I found 12
Haviland dessert plates (perfect condition) at something like $1 each.
Mostly I use glass though and I have scads. I use mugs instead of
cups for coffee & tea. They are completely white and quite formal
looking. I got them from Cost Plus and Pier One many many years ago.

Like a previous poster, I like to mix and match... but I'm not in a
position where I need or want to find a lot of different patterns in
one color family. What I'm thinking of doing next is buying the
collector set boxes of blue Spode. I love the color and most of the
patterns... but I'd need even more storage space.

Now, shall we talk about crystal and fine glassware? LOLOL
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

Melba's Jammin said:

While you're at it (buying the replacement), get two and save on the
shipping and you'll be even next time one breaks. I have Block
Poinsettia, <http://tinyurl.com/8uymx> service for 12 or 16 (I can't
remember) and a spare cup and saucer and dinner plate for just such an
occurrence and for when the stuff is tough to find and acquire without a
loan.

And you're leaving these to me in your will, right ... Mom?

They're beautiful!

Carol

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:57:52 GMT, The Bubbo <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

When I'm alone I do fill the teapot and get out a cup and saucer and sit
quietly, reading and remembering when I would have a cold or ear infectin and
my mom would make me a pot of tea and serve it to me in the china to make me
feel better.

*SMILE*

Thanks for sharing that.
Carol

Wayne Boatwright said:

Royal Jackson

You made me google an image and there are lots of Royal Jacksons! It
looks like Margaret Rose could be yours, if so... it's very pretty,
sir! Reminds me of my Wedgewood, Conway pattern. I won't make you
google it: http://tinyurl.com/bahtq Hmmm. The prices are pretty
good there, maybe I'll replace that icky replacement dinner plate I
got at replacements unlimited or whatever it's called.

--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

.. It's

Quoted message said:

white with a light green, almost Grecian pattern. The funny thing about it
is
some of it's Noritake, some say H&Co Selb Bavaria, some say H&Co Magjya.
It's
a real mix of manufacturers but the pattern is the same. I'd like to get
more
just to fill out the collection but I can't even figure out what to search
for!

.:Heather:.

When I was looking for the Haviland china, I took a picture of it and
emailed it to replacements.com and within a few days they told me what it
was.
This is something you might want to do sometime, too. Good luck.
Dee Dee

On Mon 26 Dec 2005 03:13:39p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it sf?

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Royal Jackson

You made me google an image and there are lots of Royal Jacksons! It
looks like Margaret Rose could be yours, if so... it's very pretty,
sir! Reminds me of my Wedgewood, Conway pattern. I won't make you
google it: http://tinyurl.com/bahtq Hmmm. The prices are pretty
good there, maybe I'll replace that icky replacement dinner plate I
got at replacements unlimited or whatever it's called.

--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

No, my Royal Jackson pattern is Cherry Branch. My mom always though it
looked like Christmas china.

http://www.replacements.com/webquote/ROJCHB.htm

My Wedgewood is the Queensware Shell Edge, Cream on Lavender.

http://www.replacements.com/webquote/WW_CCLS.htm

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
__________________________________________________________________
And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

Damsel in dis Dress said:

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:57:52 GMT, The Bubbo <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

When I'm alone I do fill the teapot and get out a cup and saucer and sit
quietly, reading and remembering when I would have a cold or ear infectin

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

my mom would make me a pot of tea and serve it to me in the china to make

me

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

feel better.

*SMILE*

Thanks for sharing that.
Carol

I always have to remember that for as much as my mom makes me crazy, she's
incredible in a crisis. When I left my ex I showed up on her doorstep with an
hour's notice, just the clothes I was wearing and she took care of me the
whole weekend. She's good that way.

Now I am just patiently waiting for the christmas china...

--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Mon 26 Dec 2005 08:36:43a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Melba's
Jammin'?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

While you're at it (buying the replacement), get two and save on the
shipping and you'll be even next time one breaks. I have Block
Poinsettia, <http://tinyurl.com/8uymx> service for 12 or 16 (I can't
remember) and a spare cup and saucer and dinner plate for just such an
occurrence and for when the stuff is tough to find and acquire without a
loan.

And may all your memories of its use be joyous ones.

I totally agree, Barb. I have two sets of good china, an extensive set of
Wedgewood that I collected while in my twenties, and a set of Royal Jackson
that I inherited from my mother.

I like your idea, Barb.

I inherited half of my mother's china (don't ask why only half), and
when I settle down again I plan to find the pieces to make it a full
set, and then some.

My mother's pattern is no longer made, and I have found it at
Replacements,Ltd. This is the pattern:
http://www.replacements.com/webquote/LAMREV.htm?s1=KX&7082&

I have only 2 soup bowls/plates, and about 4-5 dinner plates from that
set. Plus one of the serving platters, and some of the little bowls.
And salad plates.

It looks like a pretty extensive set, and I am lusting after some of
the other less common pieces.

Before she died, my mother was using it regularly instead of just for
company occasions. That and the good silver, which I did inherit in
it's entirety. I would love to start using it that way also, not just
for the most formal occasions. But I think that gold banding around
the rims probably is not dishwasher safe, and I am very leary of
washing this china anyway, in the dishwasher.

Now, if I could only find some of the lovely glasses I inherited from
my great aunt... And the dishes that she gave me, which were simply
called a "breakfast set".

Christine

On Mon 26 Dec 2005 03:13:39p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it sf?

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Royal Jackson

You made me google an image and there are lots of Royal Jacksons! It
looks like Margaret Rose could be yours, if so... it's very pretty,
sir! Reminds me of my Wedgewood, Conway pattern. I won't make you
google it: http://tinyurl.com/bahtq Hmmm. The prices are pretty
good there, maybe I'll replace that icky replacement dinner plate I
got at replacements unlimited or whatever it's called.

I did google it, and the Margaret Rose pattern is very pretty. My mother
would probably have liked it better than the Cherry Branch she had, although
I really love the Cherry Branch.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
__________________________________________________________________
And if we enter a room full of manure, may we believe in the pony.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Damsel in dis Dress said:

Melba's Jammin said:

While you're at it (buying the replacement), get two and save on the
shipping and you'll be even next time one breaks. I have Block
Poinsettia, <http://tinyurl.com/8uymx> service for 12 or 16 (I can't
remember) and a spare cup and saucer and dinner plate for just such an
occurrence and for when the stuff is tough to find and acquire without a
loan.

And you're leaving these to me in your will, right ... Mom?

They're beautiful!

Carol

Thanks, Sweetie. Aren't they gorgeous? I have a boatload of serving
pieces and accessories, too. About four years after I first started
acquiring them (in the mid-'80s) I ran into a sale at Marshall's. I
bought a bunch. There are glasses, too, with the motif. I've got it
all on a database. Let's see. . . . . Beck's exact words when I just
told her (we're at her place right now) were "Hah! Yeah, right. In HER
dreams." Let me tell you a little story about that: I once asked my
daughter what, of my Stuff, she wants when I croak. Well, now, she
*promptly* replied, "The sterling, your diamond bracelet, the Christmas
dishes, and your good china and crystal." MY reply was, "Jeez, have
been thinking about this MUCH? It didn't take you long at long at all
to come up with that list." LOL. I keep telling her that I love other
people in my life, too, and that she shouldn't expect EVERYTHING. I
don't think she believes me.
--
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-22-05

Melba's Jammin said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Damsel in dis Dress said:

Melba's Jammin said:

While you're at it (buying the replacement), get two and save on the
shipping and you'll be even next time one breaks. I have Block
Poinsettia, <http://tinyurl.com/8uymx> service for 12 or 16 (I can't
remember) and a spare cup and saucer and dinner plate for just such an
occurrence and for when the stuff is tough to find and acquire without a
loan.

And you're leaving these to me in your will, right ... Mom?

They're beautiful!

Carol

Thanks, Sweetie. Aren't they gorgeous? I have a boatload of serving
pieces and accessories, too. About four years after I first started
acquiring them (in the mid-'80s) I ran into a sale at Marshall's. I
bought a bunch. There are glasses, too, with the motif. I've got it
all on a database. Let's see. . . . . Beck's exact words when I just
told her (we're at her place right now) were "Hah! Yeah, right. In HER
dreams." Let me tell you a little story about that: I once asked my
daughter what, of my Stuff, she wants when I croak. Well, now, she
*promptly* replied, "The sterling, your diamond bracelet, the Christmas
dishes, and your good china and crystal." MY reply was, "Jeez, have
been thinking about this MUCH? It didn't take you long at long at all
to come up with that list." LOL. I keep telling her that I love other
people in my life, too, and that she shouldn't expect EVERYTHING. I
don't think she believes me.

Well, tell her who's getting the Block Poinsetta stuff, so she doesn't
have her heart broken when you do get around to passing. Personally,
I think you're too ornery to die. ;-)

Carol