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  1. I own two identical 28" Sun unicycles, and the pedals seem to strip the
    threading on the cranks about every mile of unicycling or so. I figure
    this would be unacceptable for a bike, so it's probably unacceptable
    for a uke, too.

    I have replaced the crank and pedals on one of them, using a different
    brand of both, and this didn't help at all.

    I don't do a lot of tricks, just an occasional bunny hop. Mostly I
    just use them for going places.

    Is the Sun brand of unicycle just a shoddy one? Is there some brand of
    crank with tougher threads? Any advice?

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  2. although it seems silly, and i appoligise if youve already thought of
    this, but you might want to check that you have the left pedal on the
    left side and the right on the right side.

    when i first got my very first unicycle i had managed to turn around
    the seat some time and so was effectively riding backwards everywhere -
    putting the wrong pressure on the threads. that on top of being a bit
    of a fatty meant I was ripping through cranks faster than the local
    bike shop could supply them... I only realised what the problem was
    after getting a fancy new unicycle!

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  3. The pedal on the right tightens when turned counter-clockwise, which I
    believe is correct, right?

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  4. Nope.

    The way I remember is that the pedal on the right is tightened the
    "right" way (righty-tighty, lefty-loosey) and the pedal on the left is
    tightened the other way.

    ncurses said:

    The pedal on the right tightens when turned counter-clockwise, which I
    believe is correct, right?

    Either your cranks are reversed or your seat is on backwards (not
    both!).

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  5. The only way to put the wrong pedal on the wrong crank is through force
    (effectively stripping the crank).

    Both cranks and pedals should be labled L and R. Sometimes only one
    side is marked, usually the right side. Pedals are often labeled on the
    end of the bit thats threaded. Cranks are usually labeled on the side
    that faces the unicycle.

    I always put pedals on by hand and only use a wrench after its on a few
    threads. If you have to use a tool right away, you're probably
    crossthreading (and ruining) your crank.

    Jimmy.the.Spleen said:

    although it seems silly, and i appoligise if youve already thought of
    this, but you might want to check that you have the left pedal on the
    left side and the right on the right side.

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  6. ncurses said:

    The pedal on the right tightens when turned counter-clockwise, which I
    believe is correct, right?

    The right pedal has normal threads and tightens when turned clockwise.

    The left pedal has reverse threads and tightens when turned
    counter-clockwise.

    Looks like you've got your pedals (and cranks) backwards which would
    tend to cause the pedals to come undone as you ride. The easy fix for
    you would be to flip your seat around.

    That is backwards to what you would think due to the direction that the
    pedals turn when you ride. But that is the correct way so the pedals
    stay tight as you ride. An explanation as to why is 'here'
    (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_p.html#pedal) and 'here'
    (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/left.html).

    Grease or oil the pedal threads before threading them into the crank.
    And make sure you don't accidentally cross-thread the pedals when
    putting the pedals on. Cross-threading will strip the threads in the
    crank.

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  7. Putting the right pedal in the left crank or vice versa is next to
    impossible. Putting the right crank on the left of the uni and vice
    versa is way too easy. Or simply putting the seat on back to front...

    The pedal on the right of the uni, as you sit on it facing forwards,
    should tighten clockwise.

    The pedal on the left of the uni, as you sit on it facing forwards,
    should tighten anti-clockwise.

    That's clockwise/anti-clockwise if you're tightening the pedal from the
    pedal side of the crank, rather than reaching through the crank with a
    hex wrench (Allen key) - some pedals have a hex socket in the end.

    If the pedal is on the wrong side of the uni, then it will unwind as
    you ride. It's such a simple mistake to make, especially as when you
    are working on the uni, it is often upside down. Be methodical.

    Pedals are such a basic commodity that you can be certain it isn't
    faulty pedals. You are unlikely to get two consecutive sets of faulty
    cranks. Therefore, it is almost certainly an assembly problem.

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  8. In addition to the cranks being on the wrong end of the hub, or the seat
    being the wrong way round, the wheel may be the wrong way around in the
    frame. It's probably better, and easier, to remove the wheel from the
    frame and turn it round than remove the cranks and refit them if that
    is the problem, square tapers don't like being removed often.

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  9. kington99 said:

    It's probably better, and easier, to remove the wheel from the frame and
    turn it round than remove the cranks and refit them if that is the
    problem, square tapers don't like being removed often.

    Either approach will work.

    I have swapped the square taper cranks on all of my unis many many
    times, and have never noticed it being a problem. I've tried 89, 102,
    110, 125 on my 20 and the same plus 150s on my old 24; 125, 110, 102,
    and 89 on the 28; 150 and 125 on the Coker, and 150, 170 on the MUni -
    trying some of the combinations more than once, or upgrading to lighter
    cranks, and occasionally moving the cranks round 90 degrees to even out
    tyre wear. I ride fairly hard but without much hopping or dropping. I
    think the fear of changing cranks too often on square tapers is a bit
    of an urban myth. There is no doubt an effect there, but as long as
    you are careful, and don't do it every week I see no problem.

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  10. Another clue can be the "R" (right-hand) and "L" (left-hand) often
    stamped on the cranks and the pedal stub

    jim

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  11. Martin Phillips said:


    In addition, LH pedals are usually knurled / ribbed where they screw
    into the crank, RH pedals are plain./QUOTE]

    By Jove! You're right. Never noticed that. I've just been to check
    and it is true for 3 of my 5 unis and the 2 where it is not true have
    the cheapest pedals.

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