no perspective.

"amit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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This reminds me of rbr, where you have crackpots like Laffery and Davey
and Bill C comparing the UCI to the third reich and dopers with mass
murderers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2264484

ROTFL

amit said:

This reminds me of rbr, where you have crackpots like Laffery and Davey
and Bill C comparing the UCI to the third reich and dopers with mass
murderers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2264484

Dude, get back on the meds...
Bill C
This is your fault Brian! You brought up the Kill 'em all and let God
sort them out ;-)
Have you seen this newest christian fascist assault?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4540538.stm

Archbishop attacks 'PC' Christmas
We all know that Rowan Williams is a well noted right wing nutcase.
Damn Amit, You slam me as a right wing nutcase, but then slam my
positions defending victims, people accused, and those without power.
You're giving me an identity crisis....
Bill C

amit said:

This reminds me of rbr, where you have crackpots like Laffery and Davey
and Bill C comparing the UCI to the third reich and dopers with mass
murderers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2264484

Benjo must be a crackpot too:
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:34:39 +0100
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:15:51 +0100, Ewoud Dronkert
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William Asher said:

There's a scene in the French movie about the woman who gets abducted at
a gas station (and then her boyfriend spends the rest of his life trying
to find out what happened to her (it was remade in the U.S. without the
bicycling bit during the abduction scene (the name of the book the movie
was made from was something like "The Golden Egg"😉)),

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Dutch! Dutch movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096163/) and book
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/text/bibleng.html).

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where as she
wanders around the convenience store at the gas station the radio is
playing a blow by blow account of the tour. I vaguely recall they were
ascending some famous climb, and Hinault and Fignon were duking it out
on
the climb. Does anyone know which tour that was from and who ultimately
won?

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Sorry, no idea.

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Stage 17, 1984 ???

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While the ambitious young Frenchman was stung by the criticism and
determined to prove himself in the upcoming alpine stages, Hinault was
even more fed up with playing second fiddle to his former junior
teammate. Stage 17, which took the race over the steep Côte de Laffrey
before the finish up to L'Alpe d'Huez, would provide the showdown.

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When Colombia's Herrera rode away from the field on the short Laffrey
climb, only Fignon could hold his wheel. When the pair gained a minute
before the hilltop. Hinault's reaction was to make a solo pursuit on
the narrow, serpentine descent; he then raced straight past the two
leaders on the valley approach to L'Alpe d'Huez. Insolently, Fignon
ignored Hinault's attack and waited for the final climb.

I remember that stage very well - I was there. After the race,
journalists
asked Fignon it he wasn't worried when Hinault was breaking away.
Fignon
answered: "Worried? On the contrary, it made me laugh". Comments like
that
were among the reasons why Fignon never became popular in France...

Benjo

I sure as hell know I don't belong in the same group as Davey and
Benjo for knowing the cycling game, but there aren't too many here who
do.
Bill C

They may be lacking in perspective, but all they're asking for is the
firing of an incompetent [censored].

Get back with us when they want him arrested or tried for genocide or
something.

Bill C said:

amit said:

This reminds me of rbr, where you have crackpots like Laffery and Davey
and Bill C comparing the UCI to the third reich and dopers with mass
murderers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2264484

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Dude, get back on the meds...

dumbass,

this is what you wrote :

"Maybe because it would take major balls for them to revolt. The UCI is
a dictator over top level cycling and trying to take out the dictator
has historically had really ugly results unless you succeed. ... This
is the Czechs getting run over twice while the world did nothing
because it wasn't worth the risk to support them."

this is a a typical rbr knee-jerk rail aginst the man. as far as i can
gauge the UCI is fighting for the riders and the teams (who are
perpetually troubled) against the GT organizers.

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You slam me as a right wing nutcase, but then slam my
positions defending victims, people accused, and those without power.
You're giving me an identity crisis....

i just think you're a nutcase whi just looks for lauching points for
your canned rants.

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They may be lacking in perspective, but all they're asking for is the
firing of an incompetent [censored].

dumbass,

that's my point.

Bill C said:

amit said:

This reminds me of rbr, where you have crackpots like Laffery and Davey
and Bill C comparing the UCI to the third reich and dopers with mass
murderers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2264484

Benjo must be a crackpot too:
Dec 18, 6:34 pm show options

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From: "benjo maso" <[email hidden]> - Find messages by this
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:34:39 +0100
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:15:51 +0100, Ewoud Dronkert
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William Asher wrote:
> There's a scene in the French movie about the woman who gets abductedat
> a gas station (and then her boyfriend spends the rest of his life trying
> to find out what happened to her (it was remade in the U.S. without the
> bicycling bit during the abduction scene (the name of the book the movie
> was made from was something like "The Golden Egg"😉)),

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Dutch! Dutch movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096163/) and book
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/text/bibleng.html).

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> where as she
> wanders around the convenience store at the gas station the radio is
> playing a blow by blow account of the tour. I vaguely recall they were
> ascending some famous climb, and Hinault and Fignon were duking it out
> on
> the climb. Does anyone know which tour that was from and who ultimately
> won?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sorry, no idea.

Quoted message said:

Stage 17, 1984 ???

Quoted message said:

While the ambitious young Frenchman was stung by the criticism and
determined to prove himself in the upcoming alpine stages, Hinault was
even more fed up with playing second fiddle to his former junior
teammate. Stage 17, which took the race over the steep Côte de Laffrey
before the finish up to L'Alpe d'Huez, would provide the showdown.

Quoted message said:

When Colombia's Herrera rode away from the field on the short Laffrey
climb, only Fignon could hold his wheel. When the pair gained a minute
before the hilltop. Hinault's reaction was to make a solo pursuit on
the narrow, serpentine descent; he then raced straight past the two
leaders on the valley approach to L'Alpe d'Huez. Insolently, Fignon
ignored Hinault's attack and waited for the final climb.

I remember that stage very well - I was there. After the race,
journalists
asked Fignon it he wasn't worried when Hinault was breaking away.
Fignon
answered: "Worried? On the contrary, it made me laugh". Comments like
that
were among the reasons why Fignon never became popular in France...

Benjo

I sure as hell know I don't belong in the same group as Davey and
Benjo for knowing the cycling game, but there aren't too many here who
do.
Bill C

Dude, Hyperbole. It's the rbr stock in trade.
Bill C

amit said:

Bill C said:

amit said:

This reminds me of rbr, where you have crackpots like Laffery and Davey
and Bill C comparing the UCI to the third reich and dopers with mass
murderers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2264484

Quoted message said:

Dude, get back on the meds...

dumbass,

this is what you wrote :

"Maybe because it would take major balls for them to revolt. The UCI is
a dictator over top level cycling and trying to take out the dictator
has historically had really ugly results unless you succeed. ... This
is the Czechs getting run over twice while the world did nothing
because it wasn't worth the risk to support them."

this is a a typical rbr knee-jerk rail aginst the man. as far as i can
gauge the UCI is fighting for the riders and the teams (who are
perpetually troubled) against the GT organizers.

Quoted message said:

You slam me as a right wing nutcase, but then slam my
positions defending victims, people accused, and those without power.
You're giving me an identity crisis....

i just think you're a nutcase whi just looks for lauching points for
your canned rants.

I'm not sure why I'm even wasting my time with you but the riders
association on more than one occasion has lobbied for more
consideration, and protection of the riders because they don't feel
they are getting it. There have been numerous complaints of lack of
objectivity and arbitrary behavior on the part of the UCI and Wada and
I happen to agree with them.
As for the UCI being a dictatorship, aren't they the sole world
cycling governing body? Where there massive problems with the farce of
an election they just held? Do the people they are actually controlling
have any real power in the system?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2005/dec05/dec17news2

CPA wants more protection for riders
The Association of Professional Cyclists is calling for stronger
protection of riders' confidentiality and more rigorous testing methods
with regard to doping affairs. After recent cases involving both
positive test results (Heras) and the overturning of some riders'
sanctions (Capelle), the CPA wants things to be tightened up.

Read the rest for yourself as this is just the latest and it really
isn't worth too too much of my time to attempt to enlighten you.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=fascism

fascism
One entry found for fascism.

2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or
dictatorial control

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to make my case and provide
you with a simple language lesson.

Bill C

PS for extra credit please successfully explain your position that the
UCI doesn't meet definition 2 of fascism.